Rename KPV for the new version?

[houqp]

The new ui code base is gradually getting stable and usable now for Touch devices, which means we might do the first release in the near future. Since KPV is not only a pdf reader any more, I think it is a good opportunity to rename the new version of reader.

Several reasons for the renaming:

• avoid confusions among new users, so they won't think it is just a pdf reader
• avoid confusions among old users, so they won't mess the new version with the old one. Currently, the old version is still the best reader for Keyboard devices.
• avoid name space conflicts, so users can install both old version and new version at the same time.

I think unireader could be a good candidate ;p

Any thoughts?

[chrox]

There seems to be a Unireader project already on Symbian platform. http://www.vladest.org/pdfreader.html

[kai771]

@houqp
Currently, the old version is still the best reader for Keyboard devices.
I beg to differ :P

[houqp]

@chrox , um... let's come up with another name then...

@kai771 , I mean the old code base. But I won't say librerator is the best either ;p KPV and libre both has its strengths.

[kai771]

There is no strength that KPV has and Librerator doesn't :P.

But joking aside, Librerator is KPV. Just a tiny bit different.
And if I may join you in brainstorming... what do you think about "TheReader"? Too plain?

[mayabtlaloc]

"Teamreader" or "Unionreader" , maybe ?

[tigran123]

What does @hwhw think about the new name? It is his baby we are thinking about renaming after all..

How about Kindlereader abbreviated as KR?
Or Kreader, again abbreviated as KR?

[hwhw]

It long outgrew my parental sphere, thanks to you all! It started as a
proof-of-concept, mupdf plus a bit of glue code, and look what it has
become! And it really needs a new name - the old one is misleading now.

I'm quite fond of KReader - it would leave out citing the full "Kindle"
name (trademark?), is short (forum post topics!) and very versatile.

[tigran123]

Yes, I forgot that "Kindle" might be a trademark. So, yes, KReader is much safer :)

[tigran123]

There is a program called kreader but it doesn't matter because it is just some commercial ($500!) stuff for windoz, so it lives in a "different namespace universe" so to speak.

[hwhw]

Not an easy decision, we should definitely sleep one or two nights over
this. I'm not that comfortable with that name clash... Hm. In most cases,
my creative ideas come in the morning, typically when I'm in the shower :-)

[tigran123]

Ok, let's all think about a good name and Google for it to make sure there is no clash before suggesting.

[houqp]

or maybe kimtar for "kimtar is more than a reader" ;p

[tigran123]

How about GNU Reader = GNUReader? There is nothing called that at the moment and it reflects both the license it is released under and more generally the spirit of freedom and cooperation, like GNU Linux.

(there is a "greader" = unofficial Google Reader for Android, so the abbreviated form "greader" is not available, but I don't see why "GNUReader" should not be considered)

[mayabtlaloc]

I like that, but maybe if we add "k" no problem, "KGNUreader" will shorten as "kgr" , I searched google and there is only something like KGNU that is an independent, non-commercial community radio. It is nothing that relates to readers.!

[chrox]

How about Koreader for Kindle optimized reader?

[mayabtlaloc]

very good too

[houqp]

GNUReader, KGNUReader and KOReader all sound good to me :)

For that KGNUReader, we can also use GNUKReader.

[eLiNK2gl]

omnireader?

[tigran123]

So far I like GNUKReader (gkr) most.

Also, GNUKRF (GNU Kindle Reading Framework) is a possible candidate, dignifying this software with the notion of being "more than just a reader", i.e. it is a whole self-contained "framework" that one can stay in and forget about the original Amazon's framework, like many users do (on DXG I do it myself).

[houqp]

GNUKRF is a good name for the framework, I like it :)

[dracodoc]

KRF may reminds people KIRF...
This is my suggestions:

1. KReader for original KPV, here K also means Keyboard
2. KReader Touch for the new version, stress the new Touch UI, working for Kindle Touch and Paperwhite, and it's based on Keyboard version KReader.
3. KReader Framework for the framework, and the framework is shared by keyboard version and touch version.

I think it's both ok whether to change the name of the old version. If the change is easy, it can be changed. If the change is not easy, it can just leave as is.

I found kreader is a existing product name but it's totally different. We can use "KReader for Kindle" as official full name in introduction and description, and just use KReader in discussion and program names. I think this will be safe enough.

[tigran123]

Actually the "Touch" suffix is a very good idea, like "Vim" and "Vim Touch" for Android version of Vim. So, why don't we use minimalistic approach and keep "KPV" for the old version and call the new version "KPV Touch"? Here "P" does not have to stand for "PDF" --- in fact, the whole "KPV" doesn't have to stand for anything but just be a proper name.

PS. E.g. in the early 1990s I used to work for a company called "DST International" and "DST" did not really stand for anything (only the ancient "founding fathers" remembered that it stood for "Data SysTems" --- the name signifying that the company promoted the new idea of using computers as opposed to paper and abacus for financial calculations ;)

[dracodoc]

I agree, just keep the KPV name and add touch suffix is good enough.

[mayabtlaloc]

I do not like, it has to be something more "original", previous seemed better

[houqp]

Yes, the name can be combined with initials that does not mean anything. But wouldn't it be better if they actually mean something? So when someone see GKReader, they instantly know it's a reader :P

[kfix]

Just throwing ideas some out here:
FreeK Reader
BookPager
RePager
InkReader
ThinkReader
ReflowReader
MagnaReader
Magnifiche

I would not use GNU in the name unless you want to associate the development with the FSF, who historically demands some say in various license-unrelated matters.

[chrox]

Koreader [kəˈriːdə]
abbreviation for Kindle Open source Reader or Kindle Optimized Reader
An open source reader optimized for Kindle devices, supporting PDF, DjVu, EPUB, MOBI and other major e-book document formats.

Update:
I agree with @kfix. The GNU prefix could make people associate this project with the FSF. Actually I always believe that software named GNU* is/was developed by R.M.S. :P

[hwhw]

I like it (KoReader)!

[houqp]

I agree with @kfix. The GNU prefix could make people associate this project with the FSF. Actually I always believe that software named GNU* is/was developed by R.M.S. 📦

Same felling, LOL

I would also vote for KoReader :)

[tigran123]

I disagree about GNU prefix and what comes to mind is Linus Torvalds' words (my paraphrase, probably not accurate) "if you got something out of a free software project and give nothing in return, then you are a pig!" We all got so much out of GNU (not just RMS personally, but the entire concept or "ecosphere" as is now fashionable to call it) that it seems only fair to give back a recognition that we are under the same philosophical umbrella.

But I have no objection to KoReader --- sounds good to me, with or without GNU prefix :)

Only can we make it Koreader (or better even "koreader") to avoid pressing Shift twice in one word, please?

(Btw, the only slight problem with "koreader" is that it may give an impression that it is for Korean books only ;)

[mayabtlaloc]

It could also give the impression of referring to kobo reader.
But what about if we reverse the order and call: optimized kindle reader, then it would be called "OKreader", it sounds nice, friendly. "OKR".
or also "KUreader" universal Kindle reader, so do not give the impression of something else. "KUR"
Its Just an opinion, if not so, I sympathize with what is agreed.

[tigran123]

Actually, that is very good! I like OKReader or OKR in abbreviated form. It sounds both nice, friendly and even a little bit funny --- I think we all need a bit of fun sometimes, not to take both ourselves and everything else too seriously...

And it can stand for "Open Kindle Reader", i.e. "open" in the sense of "opensource". Really, so far, imho, OKReader is the best.

[otichy]

What about KindReader or Kinder?

[tigran123]

I don't like KindReader and Kinder is even worse.

Ok, the "OKReader" may not be the most serious of all names, but it is simple, friendly and funny, doesn't conflict with anything and has a nice abbreviation OKR (close to "OCR" so it will stay in humans' memory once it gets there).

[houqp]

OKR looks good to me too

[mayabtlaloc]

I also agree "Open Kindle Reader" or "Optimized Kindle Reader" it is very good, "OKReader" sounds great!

[kfix]

OKReader reminds me of the album "OK, Computer". Catchy

[houqp]

KOReader is finally picked as the new name. Thanks again for everyone participated in the brain storm 👍

First release will be out soon :)