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Allow mixed networks #486

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m3thm4th opened this issue Oct 14, 2022 · 14 comments
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Allow mixed networks #486

m3thm4th opened this issue Oct 14, 2022 · 14 comments
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@m3thm4th
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Settings changed and now it is possible to select clearnet only or Tor only or I2P only. Revert back to make it possible to select both clearnet and Tor or I2P for selected services.

@IkelAtomig
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It doesn't make any sense.

@m3thm4th
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So basically before it was possible to select a Tor instance for a service and a clearnet one for another. Now it's impossible, it's all clearnet or all Tor. This doesn't make any sense, why force it this way?

@IkelAtomig
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How do you get to use Both Tor & i2p/Clearnet working in the same browser ?

Don't tell that you use Tor Browser. It is strictly adviced to Tor Browser as is by the community.

@IkelAtomig
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So basically before it was possible to select a Tor instance for a service and a clearnet one for another. Now it's impossible, it's all clearnet or all Tor. This doesn't make any sense, why force it this way?

Maybe Network Fallback could help ya.

This is to make it less tedious for users who just installed libredirect and use mixnets to set it up for that network with just one switch, rather than having to go through every service, and also have to check on every update.

@m3thm4th
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I want to connect to Invidious instances on the clearnet, and to Nitter instances on I2P. This is impossible as of now because I can only choose one or the other in the General settings tab. It was not the case before when I could choose Clearnet, Tor or I2P for each different service. Please revert this setting as it was before. The setting could be switched in the General tab or made an advanced setting and everyone would be happy.

@IkelAtomig
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Use network fallback, and if you really want to always use clearnet (for whatever reason ?), you can just disable all i2p instances, then it will always use clearnet.

@m3thm4th
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No, that's not how the fallback option works, plus this is not its purpose.

@IkelAtomig
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Yes, it is how it works, and yes, it is on purpose

@IkelAtomig IkelAtomig closed this as not planned Won't fix, can't repro, duplicate, stale Oct 16, 2022
@m3thm4th
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Fallback is there in case there are no I2P or Tor instances, not for what wrote. Maybe @ManeraKai can look into this.

@ManeraKai
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Tbh this new way does limit the freedom of the user and is a bit unnatural to use.

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Impeta commented Oct 20, 2022

This is to make it less tedious for users who just installed libredirect and use mixnets to set it up for that network with just one switch, rather than having to go through every service, and also have to check on every update.

I pretty much reflect ManeraKai's thoughts. I don't think this is a good mindset to have over your software and your users. It largely depends on targeting demographic, but generally, forcibly neutralizing an already easy to use tool with deep controls and configurations for curious advanced users, is not caring for users, but making up on the whim problems just for the sake of solutions. Network fallback is hardly any related, as its role is for automatically jumping to other instances on the occasion a preferred instance is off, not to choose whether instance would you like for each social media service on your accordion.

I wasn't the one to open this issue, but m3thm4th is in the right here to show concern. What's the reasoning behind closing the issue, begrudgingly so? This is definitely a regression in my eyes. Please, do open it back, @EdwardLangdon.

@IkelAtomig IkelAtomig reopened this Oct 21, 2022
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The reason to close is that a General protocol was made so that users can easily choose protocol and go over.

I have an idea of implementation. Will see though.

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linsui commented Oct 21, 2022

How do you get to use Both Tor & i2p/Clearnet working in the same browser ?

With another extension you can choose the proxy setting based on the url.

I would also hope that I can use mixed networks for each service. I want to use i2p for nitter doesn't mean that I don't want to use the clearnet nitter instances.

@IkelAtomig
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From Hygna :

What is the actual usecase for using onion services/i2p sites for some frontends, but not wanting to use them for others even when there are instances avaliable.

@ManeraKai ManeraKai added the enhancement New feature or request label Nov 1, 2022
@IkelAtomig IkelAtomig added this to the v2.4.0 milestone Dec 7, 2022
ManeraKai added a commit that referenced this issue Dec 27, 2022
CatCoder52 added a commit to CatCoder52/extension_browser that referenced this issue Jun 15, 2023
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