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<a href="//use.perl.org/~masak/">masak</a> <br> (email not shown publicly)<br><a href="http://masak.org/carl" rel="nofollow">http://masak.org/carl</a><br><hr>Been programming Perl since 2001. Found Perl 6 somewhere around 2004, and fell in love. Now developing November (a Perl 6 wiki), Druid (a Perl 6 board game), pls (a Perl 6 project installer), GGE (a regex engine), and Yapsi (a Perl 6 implementation). Heavy user of and irregular committer to Rakudo.
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<div class="intro"><p>Here's an idea I had the other day.</p><p>We're in the process of upgrading how proto installs Perl 6 projects. mberends++ has taken the initiative by creating <a href="http://github.com/masak/proto/tree/installed-modules" rel="nofollow">a branch</a> and <a href="http://github.com/masak/proto/blob/242497e1b767362be39bb80d0c20cc2bea485fed/proto#L510" rel="nofollow">a TODO</a>. Today, the same mberends++ also landed <a href="http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/e8b631cd86ffeaeae8cf930c72ffd4a449e5d521" rel="nofollow">a commit in Rakudo</a> such that all our PERL6LIB worries just vanish. It's looking good.</p><p>One thing I would like to fall out from this refactor is <b>a way to run all the tests in all Perl 6 projects</b>. Think of it as a kind of community-level introspection — proto's <a href="http://github.com/masak/proto/blob/adc11251ae1923c996b8ae8ed5b20bad90c1f9b5/lib/Ecosystem.pm" rel="nofollow">Ecosystem.pm</a> was my early attempt at this. And we can easily set up cron jobs and HTML serializers for a nightly run of these things on <a href="http://feather.perl6.nl/" rel="nofollow">feather</a>. This would have two benefits, I think:</p><ul>
<li>We get an ecosystem equivalent of the <a href="http://svn.pugscode.org/pugs/t/spec/" rel="nofollow">spectest suite</a>, in the sense of "these things should all work, and if it doesn't, a human should check it out". Such testing helped us before — apps helping us <a href="http://www.perlworkshop.no/npw2009/talk/1734" rel="nofollow">find holes in the Rakudo cheese</a> — but by not running all the tests regularly, we're doing ourselves a disservice, because it might be days between the introduction and discovery of a Rakudobug. The sooner these things are flagged down, the better for everyone.</li><li>We could make the community more positively aware of project tests, and make the community celebrate them. Which Perl 6 project out there has the most tests right now? I don't know. I have a guess, but I would like to know for sure. Which project passes the highest amount of tests? Which projects pass all of their tests (barring<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:todo</code> and<nobr> <wbr></nobr><code>:skip</code> tests)? Which project has had all its tests passing for the longest time? Which project has had all its tests passing for the longest time <em>while also adding more tests lately</em>? Which project has the best test coverage? And so on. It's not a contest, but if some authors choose to think of it that way, what we'll end up with is better-tested code.</li></ul><p>Testing all of the Perl 6 ecosystem sure is simpler than testing all of CPAN. But if it can help improve Rakudo and the Perl 6 community, I think it can be very worthwhile.</p></div>
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