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Cannot scroll buffer in Terminal with inbox telnet client #6056

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sierrab1989 opened this issue May 20, 2020 · 25 comments
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Cannot scroll buffer in Terminal with inbox telnet client #6056

sierrab1989 opened this issue May 20, 2020 · 25 comments
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Area-Output Related to output processing (inserting text into buffer, retrieving buffer text, etc.) Help Wanted We encourage anyone to jump in on these. Issue-Bug It either shouldn't be doing this or needs an investigation. Priority-2 A description (P2) Product-Conpty For console issues specifically related to conpty
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@sierrab1989
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Hi, I love the new Windows Terminal. I've manage to add my routers and switches to it but the only issue I have is that I can't scroll. Once I log into my switch using ssh, I can't seem to scroll up to see what's above. Kindly let me know how I can activate scrolling.
PS. scrolling works for regular CMD or PowerShell.

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DHowett commented May 20, 2020

Hi, please make sure you're using the bug report template when you file issues.

What SSH client are you using?

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sierrab1989 commented May 20, 2020 via email

@ghost ghost added Needs-Attention The core contributors need to come back around and look at this ASAP. and removed Needs-Author-Feedback The original author of the issue/PR needs to come back and respond to something labels May 20, 2020
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DHowett commented May 20, 2020

Cool. Which telnet client?

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sierrab1989 commented May 21, 2020 via email

@ghost ghost added Needs-Attention The core contributors need to come back around and look at this ASAP. and removed Needs-Author-Feedback The original author of the issue/PR needs to come back and respond to something labels May 21, 2020
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shermp commented May 28, 2020

Hi, I'd just like to state that I'm seeing the same issue.

I'm using Terminal 1.0.1401.0

It's only happening with telnet, not SSH. I'm using the inbuilt Windows 10 telnet client.

It happens with both PowerShell and Command Prompt running in Terminal. I can successfully scroll using the old Console, with both Command Prompt and PowerShell.

I hope this helps.

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Hi,
I'm using Teminal Preview 1.0.1402.0

  • Power Shell
> ssh junhwan@dell2
$ vi test.cpp

After connecting to ssh, when I edit the source with vi (vim), when I scroll the mouse, strange characters are displayed. I haven't experienced it in other ssh tools.

I use the set mouse=a option in the .vimrc file. This happens when using this option.

@zadjii-msft zadjii-msft added Area-Output Related to output processing (inserting text into buffer, retrieving buffer text, etc.) Issue-Bug It either shouldn't be doing this or needs an investigation. Priority-2 A description (P2) Product-Conpty For console issues specifically related to conpty and removed Needs-Attention The core contributors need to come back around and look at this ASAP. labels Jun 16, 2020
@ghost ghost removed the Needs-Tag-Fix Doesn't match tag requirements label Jun 16, 2020
@zadjii-msft zadjii-msft changed the title Scroll on SSH/Telnet Cannot scroll buffer in Terminal with inbox telnet client Jun 16, 2020
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szsong commented Jul 29, 2020

Any chance getting this as higher priority? This is a bug that breaks compatibility with Microsoft's own existing functionality (telnet) and it could be a blocking bug that forces people dropping Terminal :(

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@pmonajem
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Folks please prioritize this item, this is rendering the app useless for many networking tasks.
I've noticed the VS Code integrated terminal is working fine but Windows Terminal is broken, interestingly enough.

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Is there any workaround for this issue?

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Is there any workaround for this issue?

I found a temporary solution. Plink from PuTTY works acceptable in this case.

As mentioned in PuTTY documentation, "Plink is probably not what you want if you want to run an interactive session in a console window" but it works with Windows Terminal even better than native MS telnet.exe

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mosebac commented Nov 24, 2021

Hi,

I confirm @shaunthorne 's workaround is working and is an acceptable solution in this case.

I've been trying to use Windows Terminal as the default console application for GNS3 network simulation software, and had the same buffering issues everyone is talking about.
Using Plink works like a charm : wt -w0 split-pane --tabColor #C678DD --colorScheme "One Half Dark" --title %d --suppressApplicationTitle plink -telnet -P %p %h

thx

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Nope. We'll make sure to update this thread when there is. In the meantime, might I recommend the Subscribe button?
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@zadjii-msft zadjii-msft added the Help Wanted We encourage anyone to jump in on these. label Jan 4, 2022
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PetSerAl commented Feb 5, 2022

I have the same issue with build-in telnet client. And I think, that I understand reasons for that behavior. Windows console have such thing as screen buffers and build-in telnet client use them. Also old console window does not actually have scroll-back buffer: all scrollable region is part of screen buffer, while in Windows Terminal screen buffer have size of the window.
So you loose scroll-back because it leaves screen buffer, and it is very likely that build-in telnet client updates its screen buffer in such way, that it prevents Windows Terminal from capture scroll-back. For example, when remote side disconnect telnet session, as build-in telnet client display message about that, top four lines of remote session console screen get captured in scroll-back by Windows Terminal.

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tatroc commented Jul 14, 2022

The work around I used was wsl.
wsl ~ --exec telnet 10.77.77.2

I saw others mention using plink, but when I control+c, plink would exit. Using WSL + telnet does not have this issue.

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erh-git commented Sep 1, 2022

The work around I used was wsl. wsl ~ --exec telnet 10.77.77.2

For those of you here trying to get GNS3 to use the new Windows Terminal (like me), I just want to leave a note to spare you the hours of frustration I spent trying to get it to work.

The command above launches the default WSL instance -- for me, this was a WSL2 instance. The WSL2 instance runs on a special/hidden virtual Switch, while the GNS3 VM on Hyper-V runs on the Default Switch. Communication between these two switches is restricted.

The solution is to install a WSL1 instance and specify that instance in the console application:

wsl --install -d Debian
wsl --set-version Debian 1

(use whichever distro you like, note that for Debian I had to sudo apt-get install telnet as well)

Then use this Distro to launch your telnet sessions: wsl.exe -d Debian telnet 10.77.77.2

(I don't know the significance of including or omitting ~ --exec, in my testing the results were the same)

My final GNS3 Console Command looked like this: wt.exe -w 0 --suppressApplicationTitle --title %d wsl.exe -d Debian telnet %h %p

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Blackers33 commented Apr 9, 2024

Hi,

I confirm @shaunthorne 's workaround is working and is an acceptable solution in this case.

I've been trying to use Windows Terminal as the default console application for GNS3 network simulation software, and had the same buffering issues everyone is talking about. Using Plink works like a charm : wt -w0 split-pane --tabColor #C678DD --colorScheme "One Half Dark" --title %d --suppressApplicationTitle plink -telnet -P %p %h

thx

This solution is not satisfying because plink does not offer command history with arrow up and down.

the original issue has not been solved yet.

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