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== Relicensing for Telepathy logger ==
From sjoerd.simons@collabora.co.uk Tue Jun 15 16:28:08 2010
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Subject: Telepathy logger, good old Gossip and licenses
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Hey,
Long time ago that i talked with most of you, hopefully you're all doing
well and are having fun with your current endeavours :)
As a bit of background of why i'm mailing you all, we're building a logger
service for Telepathy. This allows any IM conversation done via telepathy
(whether it be in gnome shell, Empathy or whatever) to be automagically
logged. Part of this service will be a little library one can use for writing
log viewers.
The current storage backend is based on the logging code from Empathy, which
in turn has its origins in Gossip. Which means the library needs has to be
GPL currently, which is not great for obvious reasons. Hence we were
wondering if there is a possibility to relicense this code to LGPL v2.1+
To be more specific we tracked the code down the follow files from Gossip:
libgossip/gossip-time.c:
Copyright: Imendio AB
Main Author is Richard with contributions from Mikael and Martyn
libgossip/gossip-log.c:
Copyright: Imendio AB
No main author in the license header, code mostly written by Martyn
with contributions from Richard and Mikael
So what it in the end comes down to is: would you be happy to relicense this
code such that we can use it under the LGPL v2.1+ and are you able to make
that decision on behalf of Imendio AB (which from a legal perspective own
the copyrights ttbomk)
Sjoerd
--
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Subject: Re: Telepathy logger, good old Gossip and licenses
From: Martyn Russell <martyn@lanedo.com>
To: Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd.simons@collabora.co.uk>
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On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 16:28 +0100, Sjoerd Simons wrote:
> Hey,
Hi,
> Long time ago that i talked with most of you, hopefully you're all doing
> well and are having fun with your current endeavours :)
Certainly is :)
> As a bit of background of why i'm mailing you all, we're building a logger
> service for Telepathy. This allows any IM conversation done via telepathy
> (whether it be in gnome shell, Empathy or whatever) to be automagically
> logged. Part of this service will be a little library one can use for writing
> log viewers.
I see.
> The current storage backend is based on the logging code from Empathy, which
> in turn has its origins in Gossip. Which means the library needs has to be
> GPL currently, which is not great for obvious reasons. Hence we were
> wondering if there is a possibility to relicense this code to LGPL v2.1+
>
> To be more specific we tracked the code down the follow files from Gossip:
> libgossip/gossip-time.c:
> Copyright: Imendio AB
> Main Author is Richard with contributions from Mikael and Martyn
>
> libgossip/gossip-log.c:
> Copyright: Imendio AB
> No main author in the license header, code mostly written by Martyn
> with contributions from Richard and Mikael
>
> So what it in the end comes down to is: would you be happy to relicense this
> code such that we can use it under the LGPL v2.1+ and are you able to make
> that decision on behalf of Imendio AB (which from a legal perspective own
> the copyrights ttbomk)
Absolutely fine by me.
--
Regards,
Martyn
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Hi Sjoerd,
Long time no see :) Hope everything is fine!
> To be more specific we tracked the code down the follow files from Gossip:
> libgossip/gossip-time.c:
> Copyright: Imendio AB
> Main Author is Richard with contributions from Mikael and Martyn
>
> libgossip/gossip-log.c:
> Copyright: Imendio AB
> No main author in the license header, code mostly written by Martyn
> with contributions from Richard and Mikael
> So what it in the end comes down to is: would you be happy to relicense this
> code such that we can use it under the LGPL v2.1+ and are you able to make
> that decision on behalf of Imendio AB (which from a legal perspective own
> the copyrights ttbomk)
Micke and I are fine with relicensing any Imendio and/or personally owned code in the mentioned files to LGPL v2.1+. I can make that decision on behalf of Imendio AB (now known as Tinybird Interactive AB).
Cheers,
Richard
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Tinybird Interactive - Inspiring Software
From guillaume.desmottes@collabora.co.uk Thu Jun 17 14:51:24 2010
Subject: Relicensing of empathy-log-store-empathy to LPGL
From: Guillaume Desmottes <guillaume.desmottes@collabora.co.uk>
To: lars@metafoo.de, 84yelo3@gmail.com
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Hi Nicolò,
Hi Lars-Peter,
As a bit of background of why i'm mailing you all, we're building a
logger service for Telepathy. This allows any IM conversation done via
telepathy (whether it be in gnome shell, Empathy or whatever) to be
automagically logged. Part of this service will be a little library one
can use for writing log viewers.
The current storage backend is based on the logging code from Empathy
which is currently GPL, which is not great for obvious reasons. Hence we
were wondering if there is a possibility to relicense this code to LGPL
v2.1+.
Both of you contributed to empathy-log-store-empathy. Would you agree to
relicense your contributions to LGPL v2.1+ ?
Nicolò:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/empathy/commit/?id=ee5227403193fe7b5dae7d5c15e33d8a9c385c3f
Lars-Peter:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/empathy/commit/?id=ddae3ae13b1bf6368bd91327357e3c6999ac6a45
http://git.gnome.org/browse/empathy/commit/?id=61226f8d9920b92dd5b2defa606efabde6367b2c
Regards,
G.
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Guillaume Desmottes wrote:
> Hi Nicolò, Hi Lars-Peter,
>
> [...] Both of you contributed to empathy-log-store-empathy. Would
> you agree to relicense your contributions to LGPL v2.1+ ?
>
> [...]
Hi
Fine with me.
- - Lars
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I'm not a license expert so I don't exactly know why GPL is not ok for
this log service.
So I just trust your decision.
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Le jeudi 17 juin 2010 à 17:17 +0200, Nicolo' Chieffo a écrit :
> I'm not a license expert so I don't exactly know why GPL is not ok for
> this log service.
> So I just trust your decision.
We want libtelepathy-logger to be LGPL instead of GPL so non-GPL
application can link to it.
That's also a requirement for libraries in the GNOME platform.
G.
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OK!
== Telepathy account widgets relicensing (Gossip contributors) ==
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Subject: Relicensing some code from Gossip to LGPL
From: Marco Barisione <marco.barisione@collabora.co.uk>
To: Martyn Russell <martyn@lanedo.com>, Richard Hult
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Hi,
I'm currently working on integrating IM account creation with
gnome-online-accounts. This would allow a Gnome user to create all types
of accounts directly in the “System Settings”.
To do so, I need to move to a separate module all the account widget
code that is currently in Empathy, plus some other utility functions.
The problem is that gnome-online-accounts is under LGPL, while the
Empathy code that comes from Gossip is under GPL.
Would it be possible for you (both personally and for Imendio AB) to
agree to relicense this code to LGPL version 2.1 or later?
Considering that this is the second time we ask your permission to
relicense code coming from Gossip, I was wondering if you would agree to
give us permission to relicense your code (to LGPL v2.1+) in case it
will be needed again for similar projects in the future.
Thanks!
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On 17/05/13 14:16, Marco Barisione wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm currently working on integrating IM account creation with
> gnome-online-accounts. This would allow a Gnome user to create all types
> of accounts directly in the “System Settings”.
> To do so, I need to move to a separate module all the account widget
> code that is currently in Empathy, plus some other utility functions.
> The problem is that gnome-online-accounts is under LGPL, while the
> Empathy code that comes from Gossip is under GPL.
>
> Would it be possible for you (both personally and for Imendio AB) to
> agree to relicense this code to LGPL version 2.1 or later?
>
> Considering that this is the second time we ask your permission to
> relicense code coming from Gossip, I was wondering if you would agree to
> give us permission to relicense your code (to LGPL v2.1+) in case it
> will be needed again for similar projects in the future.
Hello Macro, which code exactly are we talking about out of interest?
--
Regards,
Martyn
Founder and CEO of Lanedo GmbH.
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On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:57 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> Hello Macro, which code exactly are we talking about out of interest?
It's difficult to pinpoint exactly what can be considered code coming
from Gossip and what not as most code was heavily changed.
I actually found it interesting how some functions was basically
completely rewritten and now uses a different library (GtkBuilder
instead of glade) but you can still see how they look similar to some
Gossip code written 10 years ago! (It's almost Gossip's 10th birthday as
the first commit was on the 19th May 2003.)
Anyway, this is the code we need that was written for Gossip under GPL:
* UI code for configuring accounts (coming from
gossip-account-widget-jabber.[ch]).
* Some utility functions related to GtkBuilder (they were
originally for Glade). See gossip-glade.[ch].
* Some utility code to get the toplevel GtkWindow of a widget (see
gossip-account-widget-jabber.c and gossip-presence-chooser.c)
* A utility function to present a window, see
gossip_window_present() in gossip-ui-utils.c.
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On 17/05/13 16:20, Marco Barisione wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:57 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
>> Hello Macro, which code exactly are we talking about out of interest?
>
> It's difficult to pinpoint exactly what can be considered code coming
> from Gossip and what not as most code was heavily changed.
> I actually found it interesting how some functions was basically
> completely rewritten and now uses a different library (GtkBuilder
> instead of glade) but you can still see how they look similar to some
> Gossip code written 10 years ago! (It's almost Gossip's 10th birthday as
> the first commit was on the 19th May 2003.)
>
> Anyway, this is the code we need that was written for Gossip under GPL:
> * UI code for configuring accounts (coming from
> gossip-account-widget-jabber.[ch]).
> * Some utility functions related to GtkBuilder (they were
> originally for Glade). See gossip-glade.[ch].
> * Some utility code to get the toplevel GtkWindow of a widget (see
> gossip-account-widget-jabber.c and gossip-presence-chooser.c)
> * A utility function to present a window, see
> gossip_window_present() in gossip-ui-utils.c.
Fine by me, was just interested :)
Please go ahead.
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Hi,
We (me and Micke, including Imendio / Tinybird) are fine with =
relicensing all our contributions in Gossip to LGPL v2.1+.
It's good to see that ancient thing come to use :)
Cheers,
Richard
17 maj 2013 kl. 17:20 skrev Marco Barisione =
<marco.barisione@collabora.co.uk>:
> On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:57 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
>> Hello Macro, which code exactly are we talking about out of interest?
>=20
> It's difficult to pinpoint exactly what can be considered code coming
> from Gossip and what not as most code was heavily changed.
> I actually found it interesting how some functions was basically
> completely rewritten and now uses a different library (GtkBuilder
> instead of glade) but you can still see how they look similar to some
> Gossip code written 10 years ago! (It's almost Gossip's 10th birthday =
as
> the first commit was on the 19th May 2003.)
>=20
> Anyway, this is the code we need that was written for Gossip under =
GPL:
> * UI code for configuring accounts (coming from
> gossip-account-widget-jabber.[ch]).
> * Some utility functions related to GtkBuilder (they were
> originally for Glade). See gossip-glade.[ch].
> * Some utility code to get the toplevel GtkWindow of a widget =
(see
> gossip-account-widget-jabber.c and gossip-presence-chooser.c)
> * A utility function to present a window, see
> gossip_window_present() in gossip-ui-utils.c.
>=20
> --=20
> Marco Barisione
>=20
>=20
--=20
http://tinybird.com/ ~ Tinybird Interactive - Inspiring Software
== Telepathy account widgets relicensing (Collabora contributors) ==
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Hi all,
I'm currently working on integrating IM account creation with
gnome-online-accounts. This would allow a Gnome user to create all types
of accounts directly in the “System Settings”.
To do so, I need to move all the account creation code to a separate git
submodule that can be used by gnome-online-accounts.
The problem is that gnome-online-account is under LGPL, while Empathy
contains some files under GPL and some files under LGPL.
I'm writing you because you contributed to some Empathy files under GPL
that we would like to use in gnome-online-accounts. These contributions
were done using your personal email addresses, so I'm not sure whether
you wrote the code in your free time or for Collabora.
In case some of the code was written outside work, would you agree to
relicense your code from GPL to LGPL (version 2.1 or later)?
Thanks!
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Subject: Re: Relicensing some Empathy code from GPL to LGPL
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Il giorno ven, 17/05/2013 alle 13.58 +0100, Marco Barisione ha scritto:
> In case some of the code was written outside work, would you agree to
> relicense your code from GPL to LGPL (version 2.1 or later)?
Yes.
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Relicence away!
On Friday, 17 May 2013, Marco Barisione wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently working on integrating IM account creation with
> gnome-online-accounts. This would allow a Gnome user to create all types
> of accounts directly in the =E2=80=9CSystem Settings=E2=80=9D.
> To do so, I need to move all the account creation code to a separate git
> submodule that can be used by gnome-online-accounts.
> The problem is that gnome-online-account is under LGPL, while Empathy
> contains some files under GPL and some files under LGPL.
>
> I'm writing you because you contributed to some Empathy files under GPL
> that we would like to use in gnome-online-accounts. These contributions
> were done using your personal email addresses, so I'm not sure whether
> you wrote the code in your free time or for Collabora.
> In case some of the code was written outside work, would you agree to
> relicense your code from GPL to LGPL (version 2.1 or later)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Marco Barisione
>
>
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Relicence away!<span></span><br><br>On Friday, 17 May 2013, Marco Barisione=
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
I'm currently working on integrating IM account creation with<br>
gnome-online-accounts. This would allow a Gnome user to create all types<br=
>
of accounts directly in the =E2=80=9CSystem Settings=E2=80=9D.<br>
To do so, I need to move all the account creation code to a separate git<br=
>
submodule that can be used by gnome-online-accounts.<br>
The problem is that gnome-online-account is under LGPL, while Empathy<br>
contains some files under GPL and some files under LGPL.<br>
<br>
I'm writing you because you contributed to some Empathy files under GPL=
<br>
that we would like to use in gnome-online-accounts. These contributions<br>
were done using your personal email addresses, so I'm not sure whether<=
br>
you wrote the code in your free time or for Collabora.<br>
In case some of the code was written outside work, would you agree to<br>
relicense your code from GPL to LGPL (version 2.1 or later)?<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
--<br>
Marco Barisione<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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Subject: Re: Relicensing some Empathy code from GPL to LGPL
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On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 13:58 +0100, Marco Barisione wrote:
> In case some of the code was written outside work, would you agree to
> relicense your code from GPL to LGPL (version 2.1 or later)?
Hi Marco,
I'm fine with relicensing.
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Subject: Re: Relicensing some Empathy code from GPL to LGPL
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