Remove Sinatra?

[mperham]

What would it take to remove our Sinatra dependency? Can we ship the Sidekiq Web UI using bare Rack only?

[tarcieri]

Perhaps you could use Angelo instead of Sinatra?

https://github.com/kenichi/angelo

cc @kenichi

[mperham]

That would add more gem dependencies overall, arguably a net negative.

[w-A-L-L-e]

What's wrong with sinatra rb ? It's always just worked fine for me?

[mperham]

I didn't say there was anything wrong with Sinatra but it's one more gem that users need in their Gemfile to use the Web UI.

[w-A-L-L-e]

Ow ok. Keep up the great work with sidekiq it's one of my favourite gems ;).

[mperham]

👍

[kenichi]

thanks for the thought, @tarcieri. for sidekiq/web, "rack-able" is probably a key feature, no?. on the rack side of things, i've been using roda lately and really like it, but still not "bare rack".

[tarcieri]

Yeah nm 😉 Just thought it might be cool in this use case (e.g. if you had realtime websockets reports of what's happening)

[mperham]

It would be totally sweet but I think that Reel requires an ops cost which Sidekiq can't demand.

[tarcieri]

@kenichi's point about mounting it as rack middleware is spot on. That's the way we run a lot of our Sidekiq dashboards at Square

[davydovanton]

Mike, good idea, but I have some questions:

1. What will we do with projects(or plugins) that aren't supported for a long time but it used with sidekiq? (for example sidetiq)
2. Sinatra gives simple and userful DSL based on rack. How difficult is it to maintain a clean rack application?

[mperham]

1 is a great point, we'd have to allow some sort of extension point, ideally with an identical or similar API. We can break the API but only at 4.0.

2 is unknown. This issue is really just a thought and requires some serious prototyping and experimentation to determine if it's really possible.

[davydovanton]

Mike, what do you want to use? I think that I can try create branch with vanilla rack application tomorrow.

[mperham]

Just plain rack.

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[davydovanton]

okay 👍

[mperham]

In retrospect this seems like a pretty big change. Closing as not worth it.