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rclone backup: new command with incremental strategy #18
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My initial thought is to use remote-to-remote for this, e.g. First Backup ("base")
Subsequent Backups
Not sure about the efficiency of the remote-to-remote. Bad idea? Also, the README indicates:
I'm used to behavior that deletes files that exist in the target destination that do not exist in the source destination. Worried that the rclone behavior would remove [new] files from /path/to/backup ... Thanks! |
Your idea for the remote to remote copy is how I would approach it. This has one disdvantage with rclone as it stands today in that it will effectively download the data and re-upload it. However I have been thinking about an allowing bucket to bucket copies which would be exactly what you want. S3, Swift and GCS all allow this. Here is the docs for GCS So if I were to implement that then the copy to backup first would work really quite well I think. As for
I think it is badly worded, it "deletes files in the destination that don't exist in the source" as you would expect. I'll fix the wording |
Nick, Great! This is pretty exciting. Bucket-to-bucket copying sounds promising. What about this approach as well;
Where rclone would compare /path/to/backup against remote:/backups/base , and copy changes to remote:/backups/changes-2015-01-19 Obviously this would mess with the deletes behavior, which could be dealt with by adding a flag that would remove deleted files from remote:/backups/base, and optionally preserving them elsewhere (e.g. copying them to remote:/backups/deleted-files ). We could then run a janitorial command that removes files older than X days from remote:/backups/deleted-files ) ... *and also take advantage of bucket-to-bucket copying without incurring the cost of doubling storage space with each snapshot * |
Interesting idea! I think I'd simplify the logic slightly and make it a new rclone command
This would mean that base would end up with a proper sync of backup, but changes would have any old files which changed or were deleted. It would then effectively be a delta, and you would have all the files at both points in time. You could re-create the old filesystem easily, except for if you uploaded new files into base - there would be no way of telling just by looking at base and changes that those new files where new or just unchanged old files. This may or may not be a problem! |
Nick, Right -- totally agree re: new rclone command for this. The precursor is getting bucket-to-bucket functionality. Just FYI, I'm super excited about rclone && am loving your work. For now, I'm going to go with an incredibly simple approach to backups with rclone. basically I'll have two targets, one that is synced weekly, and one that is synced daily. E.g. my cron will look like;
This will [hopefully] preserve deleted files in the weekly snapshot. Could also add a monthly &c. I think this will work for now, but certainly interested in helping with bucket-to-bucket and incremental strategies. If I can help, please let me know. May need to learn Go :) |
I've added ansible scripts to 1) install rclone and 2) implement the above backup strategy on a crontab based system (still need to make a systemd timer compatible version for archlinux &c). Sharing for fun. Install rclone: ---
- name: install rclone
hosts: all
sudo: true
sudo_user: root
vars:
# check http://rclone.org/downloads/ for latest...
rclone_version: 1.07
rclone_vstr: rclone-v{{ rclone_version }}-linux-amd64
rclone_target: /opt/rclone/{{ rclone_vstr }}
pre_tasks:
- stat: path={{ rclone_target }}
register: stat_rclone
tasks:
- name: download rclone
uri:
dest=/tmp/
follow_redirects=all
url=http://downloads.rclone.org/{{ rclone_vstr }}.zip
when: not stat_rclone.stat.exists
- name: unpack rclone
command: unzip /tmp/{{ rclone_vstr }}.zip -d /opt/rclone
creates={{ rclone_target }}
- name: add rclone to path
file:
state=link
dest=/usr/local/bin/rclone
src={{ rclone_target }}/rclone Backup Stategy ---
- name: vault backup
hosts: all
vars:
vault_base: "google:iceburg-vault/{{ TARGET_USER }}"
vault_daily: "{{ vault_base }}/daily"
vault_weekly: "{{ vault_base }}/weekly"
tasks:
- name: $HOME/.rclone.conf
file:
state=link
dest={{ TARGET_USER_HOME }}/.rclone.conf
src={{ DOTFILES_DIR }}/.rclone.conf
force={{ FORCE_LINKS }}
- name: fetch vault
command: rclone copy {{ vault_daily }} ~/VAULT
creates=~/VAULT
- name: schedule daily vault backup
cron:
name="daily vault backup"
minute=40
hour=4
job="rclone sync ~/VAULT {{ vault_daily }}"
- name: schedule weekly vault backup
cron:
name="weekly vault backup"
minute=40
hour=5
job="rclone sync ~/VAULT {{ vault_weekly }}" |
Nick, I've been playing with Syncthing of late. It uses the very cool idea of "versions" I believe derrived from Dropbox and/or Bittorret Sync. Vs. the incremental ideas outlined -- perhaps an incremental versioning scheme is prefered and easier to implement? The "simple" Versioning scheme in Syncthing allows you to specify a folder name and number of copies you would like to preserve. E.g.
So for the sync
If remote:/backups/apache/virtualhost.a was FOUND, but deleted or changed from /path/to/backup/apache/virtualhost.a , rclone would
Personally I think versions may be more accessible, and doesn't involve deltas. What do you think? |
Sorry missed your last comment.. Yes, Versions sounds like it would be simpler for people to understand. The renaming scheme needs a bit of thought - windows doesn't deal well with files with funny extensions. Implementation wise, it is quite similar to the schemes above. |
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I'll just note that rclone now has bucket to bucket copy and sync which may be helpful! |
A feature along the lines of #18 or #98 would be very welcome. I agree that it is desirable to store full files rather than diffs for simplicity and ease of restoration, but i wonder if we could improve on versioned folders idea? The main drawback of this is when a file is moved (or repeatedly removed and created) we get a lot of copies of the same file. Instead if we treated the .backup directory as a content addressable storage, such that each backed up file was stored using its md5 has as a filename we would only need a little metadata stored to allow a restore. I'd suggest that what we could need to store for each version is a JSON file that contains a line for each filesystem change along the lines of operation, metadata, blob here:
I'd suggest that the version file itself is named as the md5 of its contents and contains a reference (probably in the first line) to the previous backup. The most recent backup would probably be retained by writing the md5 of the most recent backup to a file called HEAD in the .backup directory. this would be the only file that would ever need to change. (in effect we're creating a merkle tree) The advantage of this approach is that as well as restoring files we can restore other changes readily, by returning to any arbitrary point in the history (including deleted files, metadata, etc) and it could cope with multi-way syncing with a little work. I also believe this approach could support a full two-way sync more readily than simple versioning, as the metadata allows us to determine what changes have been made since last sync reducing our ability to determine which update to propagate, rather than simply having to mark a potential conflict. In practice the easiest way of doing a restore is to allow source to have an optional version specified (either by using the md5 hash or simply an integer to represent the number of steps back to go), and so a restore could simply be a copy from the (old) destination. One interesting way to implement this would be to provide SourceVersionWrapper and DestinationVersionWrapper which wrap any existing fs object, and in the case of SourceVersionWrapper allow an arbitrary version to be specified, and DestinationVersionWrapper simply creates the .backup metadata and blobs. The advantage of this would be that if you did implement a FUSE support #494 then you would have in effect created a versioned filesystem for free. :-) |
New feature from Backblaze for B2: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-b2-lifecycle-rules/ (might be relevant) |
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rclone now supports --backup-dir which with a tiny amount of scripting gives all the tools necessary for incremental backups. I keep meaning to wrap this into an |
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@navotera --backup-dir does a server side move, (or possibly a server side copy followed by a delete if server side move isn't available). |
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So, by using something like: In other words, if yesterday i had a file called "foo" that was deleted today, with today clone, this file will be removed from the current remote and placed in remote with yesterday date, right? Isn't easier to run a remote copy before a new sync? Like the following:
Exactly like rsnapshot |
Yes that is right
Yes.
That will use a lot more storage - you'll have a complete copy for |
But with --backup-dir, i have to search a file in every repository or each repository is a complete copy like with rsnapshot and hardlinks? |
Yes searching will be necessary as not many cloud providers support hard links. (A few do like google drive). I intend to make a |
I'm trying to use the suggested method (--backup-dir) but something is not working as expected. This is a simple script that i'm running:
I would expect that on first run, everthing would be synced in I would like to have something like rsnapshot. |
What should happen is any files that are changed or deleted get moved to the backup-dir which is I think what you are asking for. Here is a simple example
I would say also that |
So, removing I'm trying to figure out a properly naming schema, in example, I would like to create hourly backups. Currently i'm testing this:
in a hourly cron. There is a huge drawback: the
but using much more space. |
That is correct.
Yes that sounds correct too.
I intend to fix this with a dedicated backup command at some point but we are not there yet.
yes that would work. The first rclone command would use server side copies so be relatively quick too. It does use a lot more space though. Some might say that was a good thing as you then have two actually independent backups. |
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@ncw |
Could you use --compare-dest with a list of all the directories since the last full backup in order to make an incremental backup? Full backup: possibly use --copy-dest from all of the previous incrementals to avoid uploading again |
Hi Nick,
I'm currently using s3ql to mount remote S3/GCS data as a local filesystem (through fuse), and then use a shell script to implement rsync based backups to this filesystem.
I'd like to make use of rclone based backups in ansible-pcd -- for its simplicity and for user friendliness (e.g. browsing on the remote end will display the backed up files themselves -- versus s3ql which displays indecipherable filesystem metadata).
For the majority of "backups", it's important to have incremental functionality that allows you to a restore a file from "yesterday" w/o having "todays" changes override and make that impossible. E.g. snapshots/rotations/&c.
Most incremental strategies also make subsequent backups efficient by limiting what gets backed up to changed components only; speeding up runtime and transfer time, and saving space @ the backup destination.
Protecting against file corruption making its way into downstream [snapshots/rotations/&c] is also a plus.
I think rclone handles the syncing component well -- although don't see anything apparent re: incremental snapshotting. Do you plan to implement or could you share your thoughts on this feature?
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