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Don't push nextcloud version to owncloud users #59

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ghost opened this issue Sep 19, 2016 · 10 comments
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Don't push nextcloud version to owncloud users #59

ghost opened this issue Sep 19, 2016 · 10 comments

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@ghost
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ghost commented Sep 19, 2016

https://apps.owncloud.com/content/show.php/Calendar?content=168707 was updated with version 1.4.0 which includes the following release note:

Bugfix: Adjust colors to Nextcloud

Instead of pushing this change to ownCloud users create a new app entry at apps.owncloud.com or revert this change to stay "neutral".

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georgehrke commented Sep 19, 2016

Adjust colors to Nextcloud

The color thing is referring to is the default color of calendars. I don't think users care if the default color is a light blue or a dark blue

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The default color is only used when a calendar has no color in the db, which is very unlikely to happen. When creating a calendar the default color is red

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ghost commented Sep 19, 2016

Ok, thats ok. However you're still pushing a new version containing only "Nextcloud" to ownCloud users:

https://github.com/nextcloud/calendar/blob/v1.4.0/appinfo/info.xml#L11

Please either update the description or release 1.4.0 as a new app.

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When releasing it as a new app Nextcloud users won't see that there is an update available. And right now I, as an app developer, have to deal with the fact, that both share one App Store.

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ghost commented Sep 19, 2016

Then please update the description to "Calendar GUI for ownCloud / Nextcloud's CalDAV server" to stay neutral until the issue with the appstore is solved.

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@RealRancor what’s the problem here? @georgehrke, @raghunayyar and @tcitworld as the Calendar app developers can do what they want with the Calendar. If there is a new version which also benefits users of the other server component, why not push it to the appstore?

This desire to control the volunteers instead of seeing it as a true community is exactly what also drove me away from ownCloud, and why Nextcloud was created.

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ghost commented Sep 19, 2016

The problem is that a version of the Calendar App is pushed to ownCloud users with only references to "Nextcloud" and without even notify them. Did anyone tested the version and the changes done in 1.4 against the oC versions where the calendar app is pushed to?

Furthermore the status within the ownCloud appstore (not even the own appstore) is misused to push out the branch Nextcloud, causing confusion or even pushing users to Nextcloud (like its also done for various other apps).

Sure, developers of that app can do what they want. However they should be either neutral in all that NC / oC drama or should push out 1.4 as a new NC app and keep 1.3.x as the (currently unmaintained) oC app.

This desire to control the volunteers instead of seeing it as a true community is exactly what also drove me away from ownCloud, and why Nextcloud was created.

Btw. this not not about control but about fair play in all that already mentioned drama. That statement "to control contributors" from Jan also looks like some one can't handle constructive critic...

Your mentioned comments here is something which me droves away from NextCloud...

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tcitworld commented Sep 19, 2016

I intend to maintain the oC app for a while (i.e : take this code and make it stay compatible with ownCloud) , but I will certainly not remove every NC-related changes, especially if they're good ideas (for instance owncloud/calendar@e211d0b) that don't break it on oC.

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ghost commented Sep 19, 2016

@tcitworld Thumbs up for that. Unfortunately that wont solve the issue i've described later that the NC version of the app is already pushed to oC users without any notice as 1.4 wasn't released as a new app but as the existing app.

Or is it guaranteed that the 1.4 version is also running for all oC users you're pushing the update out?

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Or is it guaranteed that the 1.4 version is also running for all oC users you're pushing the update out?

If the update is pushed to the oC store, then it's oC compatible.

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