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Ask users for gender or sex #185
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This is one of the areas that we found that people needed more guidance on in our guidance on How to write good questions for forms #145. There is already some good work being done elsewhere on this, for example, at Disclosure Scotland and at the Office for National Statistics. |
See also GDS backlog: alphagov/govuk-design-system-backlog#69 (comment) |
That is perfect. Any idea when it'll be rolled out to the live checker? |
Thanks @Zeno001. For now, we've decided not to add it to the checker as the data is being captured in other ways. We'll continue to test this pattern in other services for the time being. |
Sorry, are you referring to the coronavirus status checker? How is sex now being captured? |
Summary of research carried out on the Coronavirus Status Checker service around how to ask for someone's sex Disclosure Scotland They said that asking questions around sex and gender can be very loaded and traumatising questions for some people. They recommended explaining up front what sort of questions would be asked and why; rather than springing it on people, it may be better to forewarn them. You should explain why you are asking for the information; giving a good reason may convince some people to answer the question. Words like "we need to understand" are better than "we're interested in", and if asking for sex, you should explain as fully as possible what genetic or medical differences you might be talking about. Trans people may also answer with their current sex, rather than their sex at birth. In their opinion, if you are making a strong case that someone needs to answer this question, adding a "prefer not to say" option may undermine this. If you ask a gender question, note that a free text box may be used for anti-trans abuse. You should have the comms team lined up to deal with any such abuse that might come down on the team putting this together. They recommended a simple question: "How do you identify? Male / Female / Another way". Do not use "unspecified" as an answer. There are potentially a lot of ways for someone to define their gender, and it is better to let someone tell you how they define themselves rather than provide all the set options. Office for National Statistics The 2021 census team has done a lot of research into this area, and recommended to use their own approach. This involves asking a simple sex question (Male / Female) with an additional voluntary question for over-16s that gives the option to say if the person's gender is different from their sex registered at birth, and, if different, to record their gender, and include a "prefer not to say" option. They have conducted large-scale quant testing around "acceptability" of the question, and cognitive testing for "understanding". The key issue is what data is actually required and why. This should be made clear to the users answering your question. You should give people a way to avoid the question. Asking about "sex at birth" could bring up some problems. Trans people may feel that this is a private matter and that could potentially increase non-response rates. Documents by ONS |
Yes, @Zeno001. We're not rolling out a question about sex in the coronavirus status checker for now because the data is being captured elsewhere. I don't know the details but I believe that the data analysts are collecting and analysing data from multiple sources. They've said that they're able to get the data they need without us adding a question about sex to the status checker. We're only asking for data we need to collect. |
We know the effects of the coronavirus are highly sex-dependent so surely asking for the sex of the particular person you're gathering the other information on is vital? |
Thanks, Sara. That's from the census, but why ask a question about gender identity in a survey on the effects of the coronavirus? You say you only ask for data you need, so what's the need here? |
Thanks @Zeno001. We did some research around this, which we're documenting in case it's helpful to other teams. At one point it was suggested that we might need to include questions about sex and/or gender in the status checker. In the event, we're not including either. |
Is the research published anywhere? But that seems an odd decision, given, as I said, we know of the sex-dependent effects (and no reason to suppose there would be any gender-specific effects). |
As an illustration, the ONS list deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) by sex (ie male or female) only. For example, see: Coronavirus (COVID-19) roundup - Office for National Statistics These data show a clear sex bias. They do not mention 'gender' anywhere as it's irrelevant. Similarly, Public Health England: Coronavirus (COVID-19) cases in the UK Sex is important here: gender isn't. |
We are currently doing more research into this issue across various services. Worth considering whether you can get your system to do the hard work so you don't have to ask a question that might be a barrier for some users. See this blog post by @GrilloPress: https://grillopress.github.io/2019/03/18/do-the-hard-work-to-make-it-inclusive.html |
Sex 'registered at birth' is just someone's sex so there's no need for the superfluous words. Just ask, "What is your sex? Female | male. Gender is not equatable to sex (because the former is biological and the latter is a social construction relating to expectations, behaviours and attributes acquired through life) so it's unclear what the point is of stratifying participants by their 'gender', particularly since the question is essentially binary and I suspect not many will fill in the optional field. Will the write-in answers even be coded? |
What if the user was born intersex? |
Intersex conditions are anomalous developments of dimorphic sexual classes[1] and are not a third sex class. Those with a Difference of Sex Development are still either male or female. 1 Gender incongruence in children, adolescents, and adults |
@Zeno001 , thank you so much for engaging with this thread. It looks like you've got a lot of experience that will help us make this work a lot better. Would you be open to meeting myself and some other members of the service manual team to talk through your thoughts? Thanks! |
I really have no specific relevant experience here (although I have worked for a multinational company as R&D Manager running software and hardware projects in electronic security but never really touched much on UX) but I do have an interest in ensuring that the term sex is not conflated with other characteristics where any confusion between them has real-world implications that can cause unintentional harm or unintended discrimination. If you think a chat would be useful to you, please let me know. |
@Zeno001 that's absolutely fine. And yes, would be good to chat. |
This new paper by Bewley et al. in the bmj is important and needs to be carefully considered: Sex, gender, and medical data | The BMJ
And this response to it provides a useful insight and background: Sex, gender, and medical data: a way forward | The BMJ 1 Bewley S, McCartney M, Meads C, et al. Sex, gender, and medical data. BMJ 2021;372:n735. doi:10.1136/bmj.n735 |
Good Twitter thread here. Thanks @deanvipondNHS. |
There are certainly a few sensible things in that thread, but most should be self-apparent from either a clinician (for whom sex is important) or a UK GDPR (only asking for personal information you need to know and have already established a lawful basis for processing) point of view. The author is certainly correct that sex is not the same as 'gender'. However, I would take issue with a couple of points:
'Gender bias' is usually sex bias and it is sex that is the protected characteristic under discrimination law, the Equality Act 2010. According to Jo's Cervical Cancer Trust, Half of women don’t know what the cervix is. I suggest it will be much the same with uterus and asking about the term could well exclude a large proportion of women and girls. If it's important you know whether the individual is likely to have a uterus, ask about their sex: only those who are female have a uterus, cervix, etc.
Female and male are certainly the two sexes but intersex is not a sex or sex descriptor: Intersex describes conditions that are anomalous developments of dimorphic sexual classes.[1] They are a set of hormonal, chromosomal, etc medical conditions, not a sex.
The problem here is that woman and man have legal definitions as the protected characteristic of sex under the Equality Act 2010. Section 212 defines:
Using them as categories for 'gender' (which has no legal definition) can only cause confusion and wrong answers.
This is a bizarre thing to say. Sex is a fundamentally useful categorisation: apart from having a legal meaning in terms of equality law, it is important in the assessment, diagnosis and treatment of patients. Getting it wrong by asking irrelevant or confusing questions could cost lives. The author says:
There may be a limited set of circumstances where a clinician might want to know how the patient feels about themselves, but it is far more likely that for the vast majority of patient encounters, it is sex that is important to know and having the wrong information causes harms.
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I've made many of the same points above but it's worth reiterating: Intersex is not a sex or an identity. See Differences in sex development - NHS Sex is not 'given' at birth as if it was in some way an arbitrary or capricious choice that was made at that time and/or is mutable. Female and male are the two sexes and the only two sexes. See Sex, gender and gender identity: a re-evaluation of the evidence | BJPsych Bulletin | Cambridge Core
Sex is what is important for a doctor to know (for any number of safety, diagnostic and treatment reasons) and I believe it is the person's sex that is recorded in their medical records. Only those who are female need to be invited for cervical screening and only those who are male need to be invited for prostate screening. This is entirely independent of how they choose to 'identify'. For further information on this important topic, please see Sex, gender, and medical data | The BMJ 'Gender', 'gender identity' and 'non-binary' are unhelpful terms as their meanings are not widely or consistently understood. 'Cisgender' is considered a derogatory and unhelpful term by many. 'Gender' and 'Gender identity' (whatever is meant by these terms) are not 'assigned at birth'. Not everyone has a 'gender' or 'gender identity', but everyone has a sex. Woman and man are the terms used in the Equality Act 2010 to refer to those who are of the female sex or the male sex so using these terms for 'gender' can only cause confusion. See s.11 Equality Act 2010 and s.212 Equality Act 2010 Your screens state "We do not discriminate on the grounds of gender", but discrimination under the Equality Act is on protected characteristics: 'gender' is not a protected characteristic but sex is. And it is sometimes entirely lawful - and indeed desirable and necessary - to discriminate on the grounds of sex. This includes the provision of single-sex wards and medical personnel of the same sex as the patient for some intimate procedures. If you need to state this, it should say something like "We do not unlawfully discriminate on the grounds of sex", but this would be a matter for lawyers. Some questions that I think need to be answered: Why isn't the sex (female or male) of the person being asked for? What are the harms that will be caused by wrongly recording an individual's sex? What impact analysis has been done if a question on 'gender' or 'gender identity' is asked instead? What proportion of those who are trans don't know and understand what sex they are? What value is there from asking for and recording answers to a question on 'gender' or 'gender identity'? |
Thanks @Zeno001 lots of good points raised - as stated, we are in the early stages of this work and it is a prototype that we are testing continually, however, I think these were important points to share with the wider community in the essence of working in the open. This is why we do user research. Please be assured that we're not working in isolation on this, we are working with a lot of the same people that Emma and their team worked with. The recording of gender on NHS records is not a simple thing and as Emma has previously posted, this has not changed, and therefore we need to ask questions in a way that allows us to make a match on PDS, as well as consider any other services someone may need. I'm not sure if you ever had the change to speak to @amyj2110 and the wider team but I will check in and see if there's any learnings we can take from those conversations. I do think that the participants we had some great feedback and some clear points to work on too, which we will of course be doing. |
Amy and I had a brief email conversation but she never got back to me about suitable dates and times for a meeting. |
This issue is an epic on the service manual team's roadmap. |
Recent comments on GOV.UK gender or sex issue: alphagov/govuk-design-system-backlog#69 (comment) |
A personal blog post about the question about sex and the national coronavirus vaccination booking service. Let's talk about sex by Emma Parnell on Medium. |
On 111 Online, users have to answer some mandatory demographic questions - age, location, sex at birth - before they can then start to answer triage questions about their symptom. The binary answers of Male/Female on the ‘sex at birth’ question is determined by how Pathways, the triage system underlying our service, is classified. We’ve received a lot of live feedback from users have said that the ‘sex at birth’ question (screenshot below) is difficult to answer and/or often distressing. We have since conducted 2 rounds of discovery research with 15 trans and gender non-conforming users to better understand their experiences and needs around sex and gender. The first round was solely interview-based while the second was a mix of an interview and showing some initial design ideas. We tested 3 triage journey ideas with users:
Note: The gender question was directly used from the version tested by the 'book a coronavirus vaccination' national service (before it was later removed as the PDS API matching algorithm was updated) Interview feedback on the current ‘sex at birth’ question (above):
Collation of findings from Idea 1 ('sex at birth' question followed by gender identity question - above screenshot) and Idea 2 (No 'sex at birth' question but gender identity asked at point of referral):
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Emma Parnell's blog post from 2021: Let's talk about sex* |
That's a confusing blog post, @sarawilcox. Can you say why you re-posted it and what you think it brings to the discussion? |
This is interesting: Trans patients who change sex in medical records face ‘unintended negative consequences’
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Use this issue to discuss when and how to ask about people's gender and sex.
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