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Produce a list of mailing lists which can be retired #975

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Firefishy opened this issue Oct 11, 2023 · 13 comments
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Produce a list of mailing lists which can be retired #975

Firefishy opened this issue Oct 11, 2023 · 13 comments
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@Firefishy
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Many of the OpenStreetMap mailing lists can now be retired as the community has moved to other communications channels.

The mailinglist archives will be retained.

Once the list has been produced those mailinglists should be closed to new signups / hidden. If possible there should be an informational message about replacement communication channel if applicable.

@Firefishy
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@Firefishy Firefishy added the help-wanted Issues where help is needed to implement them label Oct 11, 2023
@maxerickson
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Looks like imports-us can go (there's 3 messages this year, with 2 of them being about moving/moved to community). It wasn't ever really a policy channel anyway (more a relief valve for talk-us, with the discussion on imports proper being the real way to move an import forward).

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports-us/

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iandees commented Oct 11, 2023

I moderate imports, dev, and talk-us mailing lists and would be happy to encourage people to move their posts over to Discourse.

@willemarcel
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@Firefishy The osmcha mailing list can be archived. Thank you!

@Firefishy
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@Firefishy The osmcha mailing list can be archived. Thank you!

Is there a new location? Or just archive it?

@willemarcel
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@Firefishy The mailing list was rarely used. We have a channel in the OSM US slack that is quite active now.

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grischard commented Oct 22, 2023

Mailing list activity for the last 24 monthly archives, sorted by replies, then messages, then alphabetically. Because my parsing of email archives is artisanal, the numbers might not be fully accurate, but this gives a good idea of the activity of the lists.

Mailing List Unique Posters Total Posts Total Replies Avg Thread Length Max Thread Length
rails-dev 333 5216 4316 4 96
tagging 253 4644 4088 8 95
talk-gb 176 2666 2151 6 57
tile-serving 121 2494 1915 3 31
talk-it 142 1791 1445 5 69
talk-au 95 1552 1334 6 47
talk-fr 160 1656 1265 3 31
talk-cz 143 1823 1224 3 29
talk 200 1303 1038 5 45
talk-hu 75 1035 912 4 38
osmf-talk 130 545 461 5 54
talk-us 87 664 411 3 63
imports 116 502 410 5 61
talk-ca 86 662 405 3 70
talk-de 113 545 326 3 22
talk-ja 41 320 246 3 40
talk-es 72 411 214 2 13
talk-lt 37 224 185 4 14
talk-dk 43 236 168 3 34
talk-ie 36 303 129 2 15
hot 58 285 122 2 19
talk-it-cai 22 123 112 9 36
talk-us-massachusetts 19 142 111 4 9
talk-it-fvg 20 118 85 4 16
talk-se 37 107 83 4 13
talk-be 36 127 81 2 11
gsoc-orga 42 127 76 3 18
talk-at 44 111 72 3 10
imports-us 22 84 67 4 15
legal-talk 26 73 58 5 10
umap 48 104 56 2 6
dev 48 99 52 3 11
talk-gb-westmidlands 13 67 48 3 14
talk-it-lazio 13 71 47 2 5
talk-lv 15 57 42 3 8
talk-ph 19 160 30 2 8
talk-in 20 145 30 2 5
talk-bodensee 9 37 30 2 4
talk-africa 24 242 28 2 11
talk-latam 21 138 28 2 10
osrm-talk 19 38 25 4 13
talk-gb-london 14 37 23 3 5
josm-dev 18 36 23 3 8
talk-it-trentino 13 34 23 3 11
talk-br 25 147 22 2 4
talk-bo 14 133 22 2 4
talk-mg 9 29 22 2 6
talk-si 10 25 21 4 11
talk-tw 16 144 20 2 8
talk-us-newyork 5 30 20 2 5
talk-nl 13 26 20 4 9
talk-hr 10 32 19 3 13
talk-co 15 135 18 2 4
talk-it-piemonte 14 40 18 2 10
talk-fr-bzh 14 33 18 2 8
mailman 1047 1177 14 2 62
talk-pe 8 34 14 2 6
photon 11 20 13 3 7
talk-gh 15 147 12 2 4
talk-uy 5 17 11 3 12
talk-ni 7 15 11 3 9
talk-pt 15 129 10 2 3
talk-bd 11 24 10 2 3
talk-mx 12 116 9 2 3
talk-cn 12 95 9 2 4
talk-is 8 16 9 2 5
talk-pr 5 10 9 10 10
talk-ro 10 19 8 2 5
science 9 18 8 2 3
talk-it-lombardia 7 13 8 2 3
talk-us-sfbay 8 10 8 3 6
talk-scotland 5 107 7 2 6
talk-transit 8 8 7 3 4
historic 9 11 6 3 4
talk-et 5 9 6 2 3
talk-ht 9 105 5 2 5
talk-asia 13 23 5 2 2
talk-it-veneto 6 8 5 3 4
talk-tz 9 182 4 2 4
talk-cl 7 106 4 1 1
talk-pacific 7 12 4 2 2
accessibility 10 11 4 2 2
talk-ar 4 9 4 2 2
talk-ee 8 9 4 2 3
talk-cat 6 7 4 2 3
talk-np 4 6 4 2 4
taginfo-dev 6 260 3 2 6
talk-ko 7 123 3 2 3
talk-sn 9 105 3 2 2
talk-pl 6 103 3 2 3
hot-francophone 7 101 3 1 1
talk-ug 7 97 3 2 2
talk-tr 8 70 3 2 3
talk-fi 4 9 3 2 3
talk-blr 1 4 3 4 4
talk-ke 4 175 2 2 4
talk-cm 6 101 2 1 1
talk-rs 3 9 2 1 1
talk-vi 4 6 2 2 3
talk-cd 5 5 2 1 1
talk-ve 4 5 2 2 2
osm2world 3 4 2 1 1
routing 4 4 2 2 2
talk-ba 3 4 2 2 2
talk-ng 2 4 2 2 2
indoor 3 3 2 3 3
talk-bi 1 2 2 2 2
talk-cu 6 99 1 2 2
diversity-talk 4 10 1 1 1
geocoding 5 7 1 2 2
talk-za 4 5 1 2 2
talk-cr 2 4 1 1 1
talk-gr 3 4 1 2 2
talk-ne 3 3 1 2 2
local-chapters 2 2 1 2 2
talk-baltics 2 2 1 2 2
talk-hn 1 2 1 1 1
talk-sa 2 2 1 2 2
talk-tn 5 99 0 1 1
talk-ma 2 8 0 1 1
talk-lk 3 3 0 1 1
talk-tg 1 3 0 1 1
announce 2 2 0 1 1
dev-fr 2 2 0 1 1
talk-do 2 2 0 1 1
talk-lu 2 2 0 1 1
talk-py 2 2 0 1 1
dev-italia 1 1 0 1 1
machine-learning 1 1 0 1 1
talk-al 1 1 0 1 1
talk-bj 1 1 0 1 1
talk-carib 1 1 0 1 1
talk-ge 1 1 0 1 1
talk-it-liguria 1 1 0 1 1
talk-lb 1 1 0 1 1
talk-nc 1 1 0 1 1
talk-td 1 1 0 1 1
talk-us-nps 1 1 0 1 1
teachosm 1 1 0 1 1
advisors 0 0 0 0 0
design 0 0 0 0 0
gpstogo 0 0 0 0 0
gpstogo-announce 0 0 0 0 0
graphhopper 0 0 0 0 0
healthsites 0 0 0 0 0
hot-announce 0 0 0 0 0
jeography 0 0 0 0 0
learnosm-coord 0 0 0 0 0
legal-general 0 0 0 0 0
local-contacts 0 0 0 0 0
lorodux-dev 0 0 0 0 0
mapcss 0 0 0 0 0
maproulette 0 0 0 0 0
merkaartor 0 0 0 0 0
moderation 0 0 0 0 0
newbies 0 0 0 0 0
openhiking 0 0 0 0 0
osm-professional 0 0 0 0 0
osm4j 0 0 0 0 0
osmcha-dev 0 0 0 0 0
osmf-announce 0 0 0 0 0
osmf-membership 0 0 0 0 0
osmosis-dev 0 0 0 0 0
outdoor-natural 0 0 0 0 0
party 0 0 0 0 0
photos 0 0 0 0 0
potlatch-dev 0 0 0 0 0
rebuild 0 0 0 0 0
sotm-asia 0 0 0 0 0
strategic 0 0 0 0 0
tagging-fr 0 0 0 0 0
talk-af 0 0 0 0 0
talk-alps 0 0 0 0 0
talk-bf 0 0 0 0 0
talk-cf 0 0 0 0 0
talk-ci 0 0 0 0 0
talk-ec 0 0 0 0 0
talk-gb-eastanglia 0 0 0 0 0
talk-gb-midanglia 0 0 0 0 0
talk-gb-oxoncotswolds 0 0 0 0 0
talk-gb-thenorth 0 0 0 0 0
talk-gl 0 0 0 0 0
talk-id 0 0 0 0 0
talk-il 0 0 0 0 0
talk-iq 0 0 0 0 0
talk-ir 0 0 0 0 0
talk-it-appulo-lucana 0 0 0 0 0
talk-it-bici 0 0 0 0 0
talk-it-marche 0 0 0 0 0
talk-it-sardinia 0 0 0 0 0
talk-it-sicilia 0 0 0 0 0
talk-it-southtyrol 0 0 0 0 0
talk-jo 0 0 0 0 0
talk-kg 0 0 0 0 0
talk-kosovo 0 0 0 0 0
talk-ly 0 0 0 0 0
talk-ml 0 0 0 0 0
talk-mm 0 0 0 0 0
talk-mn 0 0 0 0 0
talk-mw 0 0 0 0 0
talk-my 0 0 0 0 0
talk-nz 0 0 0 0 0
talk-oceania 0 0 0 0 0
talk-ps 0 0 0 0 0
talk-ru 0 0 0 0 0
talk-sc 0 0 0 0 0
talk-so 0 0 0 0 0
talk-sy 0 0 0 0 0
talk-us-bayarea 0 0 0 0 0
talk-us-ga 0 0 0 0 0
talk-us-maine 0 0 0 0 0
talk-us-pugetsound 0 0 0 0 0
talk-zm 0 0 0 0 0
talk-zw 0 0 0 0 0
tilesathome 0 0 0 0 0
welcomewg 0 0 0 0 0

@pnorman
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pnorman commented Oct 22, 2023

As a start, I would say any lists without any posts in the last two years can be archived. That's an easy way to handle half of them.

@grischard
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grischard commented Oct 22, 2023

I would even say that any lists with no replies, except maybe announce, can be retired instantly with no loss of discussion.

@Nakaner
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Nakaner commented Nov 9, 2023

talk-at had its last postings in July and a single posting in October. The forum is more active. I think that we can close the list if there will be no substantial posting activity within the next months apart from cross-postings.

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1ec5 commented Nov 11, 2023

talk-vi – the mailing list for Vietnam(ese), not the U.S. Virgin Islands – has had a few messages lately, but it’s usually only one or two a year, and it’s been like that for over a decade. The mailing list has never been much of a success. I’ve proposed closing down this list and replacing it with a forum subcategory (to complement the much more active Facebook group).

@norbertwenzel
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talk-at had its last postings in July and a single posting in October. The forum is more active. I think that we can close the list if there will be no substantial posting activity within the next months apart from cross-postings.

Moderator of talk-at here. I support archiving this list in favor of the new Community Forum.

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hbogner commented Nov 16, 2023

Croatia community supports archiving talk-hr list in favor of the new Community Forum.

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