The Whisky Application: Is it possible to update Wine, to the latest version?

[ferreira-ff]

Hello. Whisky is already very good and functional, at version 1.0.1. Regarding GPTK 0.0.2; well, let us wait and see, what Apple will do next. About Wine; Whisky uses the 7.7.0 version. Is there a way to update it, to the latest stable version?
Would it be possible to upgrade it, to the version WineCX22.1.1-8?

I am also having good results, with WineSkin; (Wrapper: Wineskin-2.9.1.9 & Engine: WineCX22.1.1-8 + Apple GPTK 0.2)

Again; thank you for the great work, from everyone involved. Kind regards to all.

[JoshuaBrest]

No, it's not possible as of yet.

Reason: the wine included with GPTK is modified in order to be compatible with dxmetal

[ferreira-ff]

I see. Well, thank you for the explanation. Let us wait for Apple to update the GPTK; maybe with the release of "Crossover / Wine 23", we will have nice improvements, both to Whisky and WineSkin.

Kind regards

[odahcam]

I'm eager for that as well, as of now I can't play my games :(

[JoshuaBrest]

It is now possible. We just won't do it until crossover (basically a paid version of whisky) moves to wine 9. We want to avoid undercutting them.

[LeaveNhA]

No offense, but LOL @JoshuaBrest.

[JoshuaBrest]

No offense, but LOL @JoshuaBrest.

Hey, if it were up to me, we would've been on Wine 9 ages ago. Unfortunately, even though it technically works, it's not perfect and a lot of apps just don't run. Trying to fix issues is not an easy task and requires lots of time.

If you care so much, go figure your own fork of whiskey and Wine. Just because we're open source doesn't mean our time is worth nothing. Please don't go to other open source softwares and demand features. It's free.

[Gcenx]

Wineskin wine builds are highly customized and are not for use by other third-partly projects, PortingKit by PaulTheTall is not considered a third-party project. These became branded to persuade other projects from using them.

Wineskin does support D3DMetal right after the release of game-porting-toolkit it simply wasn’t advertised until I was happy with it. Wineskin was also the first project to directly bundle D3DMetal once Apple updated there license.

The version of DXVK shipped with Whisky was taken from my fork.

[IsaacMarovitz]

After the release of CrossOver 23.5 included D3DM, I decided not to upgrade to Wine 8, at least not while we're using CrossOver's fork of Wine. This is to prevent the undercutting of CodeWeavers' revenue, as they weren't the most pleased about Whisky using their tech, and making the paid part (the user-friendly app) effectively free.

There are plans to switch from CrossOver's Wine to our own fork of mainline Wine, but this will take time, and it's not immediately on the horizon.

In the meantime, if you want to use D3DM with Wine 8, buy a CrossOver 23 license.

[JoshuaBrest]

If CrossOver’s fork is open-source and if you’re complying with the text of its license, then why do they get a say in what you do or don’t build with it?

@Gerzer I can see you are very into open source. The short answer is that they don't, but, Issac has decided that they don't want to compete with Codeweaver's paid software known as crossover. Codeweavers is also a big maintainer of Wine. It seems like Isacc doesn't want to drive them out of business or burn any bridges.

If you want, however, you are free to maintain your own version of Whisky and Wine that uses Wine 8. 😉

[chaosdrop]

Any updates on this? Crossover seems to be on v24 now. I tired their paid software and it wasn't as good of an experience as Whisky... So wound up uninstalling it and moving back to Whisky.

[JoshuaBrest]

Any updates on this? Crossover seems to be on v24 now. I tired their paid software and it wasn't as good of an experience as Whisky... So wound up uninstalling it and moving back to Whisky.

We're planning someday to move to Wine 8 but a lot of software are not compatible out of the box.

[chaosdrop]

Seems fair, maybe that's one of the reasons Whisky is better than CrossOver, anyway. XD I just came looking because of always seeing, in the terminal, the warnings to upgrade from 7.7 because it's unsupported.

[Gcenx]

It’s not that Whisky is better but CrossOver has too many options that I guess confuse user.

I just came looking because of always seeing, in the terminal, the warnings to upgrade from 7.7 because it's unsupported.

That’s a warning from winetricks, it’s warning is correct as it only ever guarantees the verbs will work with current upstream wine aka wine-9.0, but there’s currently no verbs I can think of that aren’t still working with wine-7.7 currently that aren’t marked.