Collecting Graphics of Integral / Spiral Dynamics Stages #963
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@asimong you had a nice one in the chat today |
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A point that I would like to see expressed here – so I will express it now! – is that all these schemes seem to be based on similar assumptions and cultural background. The fairly well diffused critique by Nora Bateson (pithily at https://twitter.com/NoraBateson/status/1425142926254956550 ) has a point, while seeming to throw the baby rather angrily and unreflectively out with the bathwater. I can't muster the enthusiasm to follow up e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cMnPZ2MJiU or indeed to subsidise Bateson's rants by paying to get past a paywall. I'm wondering also whether it is worth following up on https://mysticalmobius.net/2021/10/03/stage-theory-is-bs-pt-5/ But the point I would concur with is that Bateson is pointing out, to my mind correctly, the cultural dependency of these stage models. They seem to me to chart the natural human responses to the kind of complexity faced in contemporary Western culture, but not necessarily in other cultures. I go back to George Kelly and Person Construct Psychology for an approach that seems to me much sounder and less biased. Thus, societies with different complexities are liable to have different stages of development. What Kelly's theory is pointing out is that people typically don't fluidly change their paradigms or worldviews continuously, but only in a series of what we could see as "crises", where the disconfirming evidence has built up too much to be ignored. |
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@asimong in the twitter thread you mentioned up there I found a diagram to the question I asked in #959, so I will be posting it here. I don't know where it's originally from, and based on how it looks it might potentially cause some headaches. Curious if you have any initial reactions |
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This is a thread to collect graphical representations of integral / spiral dynamic stages and model.
AQAL: An Integral Map - Spiral Dynamics Stages
Source Formless Mountain by Steve Self
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