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{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002nodejs-v0.10-windows\u0002: #384 \u00037UNSTABLE\u000f windows-ia32 (11/606) windows-x64 (11/606) http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/nodejs-v0.10-windows/384/","date":"2013-12-17T06:41:35.384Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033isaacs\u000f \u00037v0.10\u000f * \u00029773899\u0002 : npm: Upgrade to 1.3.19 - http://git.io/6j-vMw","date":"2013-12-17T07:14:38.923Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: this is a good one ^","date":"2013-12-17T07:14:48.877Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: will have a significant impact on npm publish stability","date":"2013-12-17T07:15:02.336Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/libuv:\u0002 \u00033Sean Farrell\u000f \u00037master\u000f * \u0002a762934\u0002 : build: add support for VS2013 - http://git.io/iEQrIw","date":"2013-12-17T08:16:17.966Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"ok, let's see if we can get a 0.11.10 release out today","date":"2013-12-17T15:50:41.904Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"tjfontaine: is there a ballpark date for 0.12 ? several native modules I help maintain get requests to be updated for 0.12 but I don't want to do that too early lest something else changes with v8, etc","date":"2013-12-17T16:23:55.817Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"defunctzombie: don't publicize release dates, people only get sad when you miss them","date":"2013-12-17T16:25:30.570Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"defunctzombie: needless to say, asafp","date":"2013-12-17T16:25:36.104Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"tjfontaine: :D","date":"2013-12-17T16:25:41.825Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"AlexisMocha: hey, btw no c++ exceptions ever in the code base, in case you wondered ;)","date":"2013-12-17T16:42:42.573Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"AlexisMocha","message":"tjfontaine: I see :) ","date":"2013-12-17T16:43:20.336Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"in any event I'm going to land this vm fix, thanks!","date":"2013-12-17T16:43:47.137Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"AlexisMocha","message":"tjfontaine: I guess my point is that we have a constructor that can fail silently. Generally speaking, a constructor should either never fail or throw an exception","date":"2013-12-17T16:44:06.257Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"I understand","date":"2013-12-17T16:44:17.400Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"AlexisMocha","message":"tjfontaine: great!","date":"2013-12-17T16:44:44.978Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"we could abort though, those failures that might occur probably aren't recoverable","date":"2013-12-17T16:44:58.931Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"well","date":"2013-12-17T16:45:03.270Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"that is to say, if(!loop_)return; <-- I'm not sure why we would do that","date":"2013-12-17T16:45:14.916Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"tjfontaine: what happens when you get a memory allocation exception? :p","date":"2013-12-17T16:45:22.750Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"defunctzombie: abort()s","date":"2013-12-17T16:45:31.786Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"is that setup somewhere or do you just let it crash the app?","date":"2013-12-17T16:45:56.272Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"AlexisMocha: similarly, I can't imagine a scenario where it's ok to continue on like nothing happened if we can't make timers or threads","date":"2013-12-17T16:46:16.067Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"AlexisMocha","message":"tjfontaine: yes, malloc can return null and so will uv_loop_new","date":"2013-12-17T16:46:17.158Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"AlexisMocha: I mean, I just dont' see how we can view that as an ok to continue on thing, that's OOM we should die","date":"2013-12-17T16:46:39.700Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"AlexisMocha","message":"tjfontaine: I absolutely agree. Error handling in the constructor is currently broken","date":"2013-12-17T16:47:03.061Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"none of those returns in that constructor are ok","date":"2013-12-17T16:47:05.540Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"AlexisMocha: want to cahnge all of those to aborts and then I'll land? I think we may even have an internal ENOMEM function","date":"2013-12-17T16:47:38.254Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"AlexisMocha","message":"tjfontaine: sounds like a plan","date":"2013-12-17T16:48:07.013Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"AlexisMocha: ok hang on","date":"2013-12-17T16:51:13.776Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"AlexisMocha: can we add the checks for valid in the ::Run?","date":"2013-12-17T16:51:25.928Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"AlexisMocha","message":"tjfontaine: for valid what? if something failed in the constructor, we probably will not get to create the thread","date":"2013-12-17T16:52:19.726Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"AlexisMocha","message":"tjfontaine: it's the last thing we do in the constructor","date":"2013-12-17T16:52:48.320Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"ya, I'm just tryign to see if it's ok to do this check when we go to run, but anyway I vote for just abort()'ing still, continue on","date":"2013-12-17T16:52:59.061Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: don't do a node release :)","date":"2013-12-17T16:55:31.073Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: 1.3.19 npm is busted.","date":"2013-12-17T16:55:37.740Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: bugfix publishing now","date":"2013-12-17T16:55:43.414Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"AlexisMocha","message":"tjfontaine: I'm also going to remove thread_created_ then","date":"2013-12-17T16:56:02.256Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"isaacs: ok :)","date":"2013-12-17T16:57:38.148Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"AlexisMocha: seems reasonable, I'm not particularly clear on why that would have been necessary unless we were planning on doing some asynchronous error handling later","date":"2013-12-17T16:58:26.306Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: ^","date":"2013-12-17T17:04:55.446Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: a v0.10 release at your earliest convenience would rock :)","date":"2013-12-17T17:05:27.438Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"isaacs: :)","date":"2013-12-17T17:10:03.979Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: so are our tues meetings always on thurs now?","date":"2013-12-17T17:30:45.732Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"trevnorris: I think at least this week and next we can consider fubar'd because of holidays","date":"2013-12-17T17:34:17.836Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"trevnorris: I did create team@ which is an internal only mailing list for us to communicate asynchronously on some of these things","date":"2013-12-17T17:34:45.295Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: cool. so is the v0.12 full team triage postponed until after the holidays?","date":"2013-12-17T17:42:49.400Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"trevnorris: I'm going to send an email today with my thoughts, it would be great if you contributed your thoughts","date":"2013-12-17T17:43:18.546Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: will do","date":"2013-12-17T17:56:53.172Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"trevnorris: ok the email should be coming around lunch time","date":"2013-12-17T17:57:50.808Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: cool. i might be asleep. still sick.","date":"2013-12-17T17:58:04.510Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"trevnorris: that's ok, feel better man, it's just software there's no rush :)","date":"2013-12-17T18:00:11.208Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"AlexisMocha: ok, so I think we're going to use our other macros we have defined in src/util.h https://gist.github.com/tjfontaine/8010125","date":"2013-12-17T18:28:20.587Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: good call. I forgot that ben put in those macros. was meaning to go through and put them where useful.","date":"2013-12-17T18:49:42.807Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"othiym23: right now i'm not sure. I've been severely set back by being sick this last week. mental processing power has been on empty.","date":"2013-12-17T18:50:40.124Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"groundwater","message":"trevnorris: i haven't even started writing those tests btw","date":"2013-12-17T18:50:57.316Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"othiym23: i'm thinking i'll get in a quicker patch to just to fix the user-land api, then get to fixing the guts afterwards.","date":"2013-12-17T18:51:20.326Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"groundwater: that's fine. i'm rewriting that too. :P","date":"2013-12-17T18:51:27.423Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"groundwater: if the user called removeAllListeners() would that fire for every callback for every event?","date":"2013-12-17T18:52:52.806Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"groundwater","message":"trevnorris: i'm not surei follow","date":"2013-12-17T18:53:33.826Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"groundwater: on the EE hooks","date":"2013-12-17T18:53:48.636Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"there's a create, before, after, add, remove, error","date":"2013-12-17T18:53:58.203Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: ping","date":"2013-12-17T18:54:31.194Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"groundwater","message":"i'll have to switch my brain back into this stuff later, i'm fussing with mongodb right now and i want to punch something","date":"2013-12-17T18:56:43.477Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"heh","date":"2013-12-17T18:57:13.768Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"trevnorris: pong","date":"2013-12-17T19:08:52.252Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: on https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/6719 the script is blocking. you think that's why memory usage grows indefinitely?","date":"2013-12-17T19:13:06.926Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"is it really blocking?","date":"2013-12-17T19:13:15.999Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"I haven't actually looked at it yet","date":"2013-12-17T19:13:22.206Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"to me, it doesn't seem like it could be, but I can't get a timer to do anything.","date":"2013-12-17T19:14:02.953Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"trevnorris: can you use 'localhost' explicitly and see if it defers for you?","date":"2013-12-17T19:14:34.079Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"actually","date":"2013-12-17T19:14:39.186Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"maybe this is just a nextTick poblem","date":"2013-12-17T19:14:44.860Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"but how can the server receive the connection on the same tick of the eloop?","date":"2013-12-17T19:15:11.715Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"even when I put in my IP of my wlan0 it still blocks.","date":"2013-12-17T19:16:30.016Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: wait. no it's not. just some really strange timing stuff going on.","date":"2013-12-17T19:21:00.524Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"ok, I can't see how that is ever actually \"blocking\" I can believe we're not actually giving enough time to the gc because we're actually creating a lot of new objects each loop","date":"2013-12-17T19:26:49.975Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"1e4 writereq's each loop essentially","date":"2013-12-17T19:26:57.083Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: i'm updating the issue. there's some strange behavior.","date":"2013-12-17T19:27:35.687Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: updated the issue. memory is retained for messages that weren't written on a destroyed connection. investigating where that memory is hiding. https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/6719","date":"2013-12-17T19:31:47.495Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"just for shits and giggles I'm about to do a test of changing nextTick to setImmediate ;)","date":"2013-12-17T19:32:03.514Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"...........","date":"2013-12-17T19:32:14.027Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"trevnorris: probably in .buffer of the state","date":"2013-12-17T19:32:14.818Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"nextTick is so very very very wrong","date":"2013-12-17T19:32:25.679Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"eh? nextTick is necessary.","date":"2013-12-17T19:32:38.146Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"poorly named, yes, but necessary","date":"2013-12-17T19:32:45.393Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"I'm unconvinced that properly built applications actually need nextTick, and I would argue that semantics in core that built around that are probably also wrong","date":"2013-12-17T19:33:10.493Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"so why is phonegap busted, and why does upgrading to the newest npm fix the problem?","date":"2013-12-17T19:34:32.340Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"so you don't believe that users should be able to queue up something asynchronously before any I/O is processed?","date":"2013-12-17T19:34:39.501Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"npm repo's blowin' up my inbox but I can't figure out what the actual problem is","date":"2013-12-17T19:34:46.911Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"othiym23: because the checksums were done on the base64 tarball not on the real one","date":"2013-12-17T19:35:04.823Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"man Jason, what you do","date":"2013-12-17T19:35:34.878Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"thx tjfontaine ","date":"2013-12-17T19:35:39.388Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"no that was npm itself","date":"2013-12-17T19:35:42.590Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"trevnorris: not in a sensible way that is semantically different from nextTick","date":"2013-12-17T19:35:47.793Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: not following that","date":"2013-12-17T19:36:31.296Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"right, so only tests that are explicitly checking nextTick state information are failing","date":"2013-12-17T19:41:01.749Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: is test-cluster-dgram-1 failing for you?","date":"2013-12-17T19:45:05.285Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"hmm not yet, brb lunch","date":"2013-12-17T19:45:41.301Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"ok","date":"2013-12-17T19:45:45.819Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: not sure what your patch looks like, but here's mine: https://gist.github.com/trevnorris/8011423","date":"2013-12-17T19:50:52.994Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"tjfontaine: npm introduced a backwards-compatibility breaking change in how it generates hashes?","date":"2013-12-17T19:52:17.424Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"today is turning out to be full of surprises","date":"2013-12-17T19:52:26.386Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: using that patch, http requests dropped from ~15k req/sec to ~14k req/sec","date":"2013-12-17T19:53:36.648Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"othiym23: i'm reverting asynclistener. it's just being a big pain. surprise!!! :P","date":"2013-12-17T19:54:02.493Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","action":"waits to see if othiym23 drops dead of a heart attack...","date":"2013-12-17T19:54:56.908Z","type":"action"}
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{"nick":"othiym23","message":"define \"reverting\"","date":"2013-12-17T20:01:05.690Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"othiym23: reverting as in trolling your bad day ;)","date":"2013-12-17T20:03:36.042Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"i'm actually working on it right now. :)","date":"2013-12-17T20:04:01.423Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"hueniverse","message":"was there a 0.11 release yesterday?","date":"2013-12-17T20:18:04.258Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"trevnorris: mine was much more simple than that","date":"2013-12-17T20:36:47.779Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"hueniverse: no","date":"2013-12-17T20:36:51.791Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"othiym23: no I don't think so, I think they just did it wrong","date":"2013-12-17T20:37:18.079Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"trevnorris: here was mine https://gist.github.com/tjfontaine/6e71c5b9f95c49bf27e0 :)","date":"2013-12-17T20:37:53.031Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"it was merely a test to see how things would react","date":"2013-12-17T20:38:30.742Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"tjfontaine: the amount of bug traffic on npm it generated was amazing","date":"2013-12-17T20:39:44.637Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"I guess a lot of people use PhoneGap!","date":"2013-12-17T20:39:49.547Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":":)","date":"2013-12-17T20:39:53.055Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"why doesn't github have useful acl's","date":"2013-12-17T20:55:16.312Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"isaacs: so, for david to be able to close issues he has to have push permissions ...","date":"2013-12-17T20:59:48.619Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: yeah, we can just add him to the group","date":"2013-12-17T21:00:11.064Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"i'm sure he won't do any bad things","date":"2013-12-17T21:00:17.379Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"me either, I'm just trolled.","date":"2013-12-17T21:00:24.295Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"Domenic_","message":"othiym23: haha yeah the PhoneGap threads were the biggest surprise","date":"2013-12-17T21:01:05.944Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"othiym23","message":"poor dap","date":"2013-12-17T21:07:15.780Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"othiym23","message":"such a useful change, so much unwarranted vitriol in response","date":"2013-12-17T21:07:32.353Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"heh, he was sufficiently trolled by me explaining nextTick semantics, only to be independently trolled by our community ;)","date":"2013-12-17T21:08:01.383Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"github: if I clicky the clear milestones and filters button, don't you think that should mean open/closed as well?","date":"2013-12-17T21:19:10.985Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"tjfontaine: hehe. yeah. that's a lot more simple.","date":"2013-12-17T21:53:11.160Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: need another npm update :)","date":"2013-12-17T22:26:23.326Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"isaacs: oh boy :)","date":"2013-12-17T22:26:31.537Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: substizzy found a bug","date":"2013-12-17T22:26:34.286Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"what's this one?","date":"2013-12-17T22:26:41.345Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"publishign doesn't work","date":"2013-12-17T22:26:50.937Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"aka \"That thing I completely rewrote has a new bug that i wrote into it\"","date":"2013-12-17T22:27:05.117Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"awesome!","date":"2013-12-17T22:27:20.528Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"it wasn't copying the \"maintainers\" from the root doc onto the version-specific object","date":"2013-12-17T22:27:23.625Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033isaacs\u000f \u00037v0.10\u000f * \u00022a741f2\u0002 : npm: upgrade to 1.3.21 - http://git.io/i7eUgA","date":"2013-12-17T22:34:07.527Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: ok. for reals now. tested and everythings","date":"2013-12-17T22:34:10.002Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"tjfontaine: substack approved.","date":"2013-12-17T22:34:14.987Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"so, testing woudl you like some CI? :)","date":"2013-12-17T22:34:27.744Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"so, it's kinda tricky to test.","date":"2013-12-17T22:35:12.091Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"especially stuff like this that will only show its problems when you hit the registry, as a non-admin user","date":"2013-12-17T22:35:28.594Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"the couch logic lets me get away with some stuff that mere mortals are not allowed","date":"2013-12-17T22:35:47.963Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"it would be impossible for us to do a couch install for it?","date":"2013-12-17T22:35:54.088Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"i need some lunch, so i'm gonna be out for a little bit","date":"2013-12-17T22:36:01.800Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"k","date":"2013-12-17T22:36:04.263Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"the sooner we can get this out, the better. maybe tomorrow morning? pretty much the last chance until jan","date":"2013-12-17T22:36:38.559Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"tjfontaine","message":"yes, I will get it out tonight probably","date":"2013-12-17T22:36:57.341Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"sweet","date":"2013-12-17T22:42:16.097Z","type":"message"}
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