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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"chrisdickinson: got this to work now: https://github.com/thlorenz/valuepack-mine/blob/master/lib/get-github-logins.js","date":"2013-08-17T01:02:09.814Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"looks like a bunch of spaghetti to me though - time to refactor this","date":"2013-08-17T01:02:26.556Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"not sure if possible, but ideally I'd extract a generic reusable pattern from this and publish as a module ;)","date":"2013-08-17T01:03:30.523Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"mikolalysenko: so it turns out that jsdom is really really slow, and cheerio is faster, but it doesn't work in browserify because its maintainer is a dork. any hints?","date":"2013-08-17T01:03:36.877Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"kanzure: why are you trying to use cheerio in the browser?","date":"2013-08-17T01:04:15.033Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"mikolalysenko: also, i have another problem with the request module. when browserified, it only works for local XHR to the same server. but why not (1) open up an iframe to the remote server, then perform an xhr inside of there, or (2) send requests through a local proxy? is there a browserify-compatible module that does this?","date":"2013-08-17T01:04:31.040Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"thlorenz: sorta. i am not married to cheerio..","date":"2013-08-17T01:04:42.701Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"I'd use jquery/zepto in the browser and use cheerio only as a replacement for it serverside (i.e. code I run with node)","date":"2013-08-17T01:05:17.062Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i'm trying to decouple some code from caring about whether it's running in the browser or in node","date":"2013-08-17T01:05:27.446Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"yeah we were working on something similar - you can use the browser field to swap out dependencies","date":"2013-08-17T01:06:03.985Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"oh also, there's another situation where the page in the browser i currently have loaded is the correct page (if document.location === request.get's url, then just return document.body).","date":"2013-08-17T01:06:06.213Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"unfortunately cheerio is not 100% API compatible with jquery","date":"2013-08-17T01:06:40.173Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"even for just getting elements","date":"2013-08-17T01:06:53.304Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i would rather use sizzle instead of jquery unless absolutely necessary","date":"2013-08-17T01:06:57.097Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i'm not sure if sizzle works server-side","date":"2013-08-17T01:07:02.444Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"probably not","date":"2013-08-17T01:07:08.613Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"the dom apis arent too bad","date":"2013-08-17T01:07:47.359Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"jsdom is fine it's just really slow","date":"2013-08-17T01:07:59.409Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"depending on what browsers you have to support","date":"2013-08-17T01:07:59.889Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"kanzure: https://gist.github.com/shtylman/4339901 describes how to swap out dependencies server vs. browser","date":"2013-08-17T01:08:02.086Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"so you could use sizzle in browser, cheerio in server - (require cheerio everywhere, but get sizzle swapped in magically)","date":"2013-08-17T01:08:35.613Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"thlorenz: that's kinda nice, but doesn't solve any problem i'm having right now (?) unless i'm being dense","date":"2013-08-17T01:08:36.926Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"oh, i see what you mean","date":"2013-08-17T01:08:40.633Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"no, that's too much magic for my taste.","date":"2013-08-17T01:08:45.864Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":":)","date":"2013-08-17T01:08:53.502Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i would rather have a single third-party module that can exist in both","date":"2013-08-17T01:09:05.732Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"if *that* module wants to do browserify dependency swapping, i wouldn't care","date":"2013-08-17T01:09:13.189Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"better than me sprinkling \"if window != undefined\" everywhere..","date":"2013-08-17T01:09:28.069Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"you don't have to if you use browser field","date":"2013-08-17T01:09:47.081Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"well, at any rate, there's no api-compatible thing other than jsdom at the moment iirc","date":"2013-08-17T01:10:32.919Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"so i would still have to write something","date":"2013-08-17T01:10:40.976Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"and even jsdom is not 100% compatible, but will probably be fine, but as you mentioned its much slower than other options","date":"2013-08-17T01:11:21.841Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"oh, it's not 100%? wtf guys.","date":"2013-08-17T01:11:50.638Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"100% compatible with what?","date":"2013-08-17T01:11:59.628Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"webkit?","date":"2013-08-17T01:12:06.268Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"with most browsers","date":"2013-08-17T01:12:06.739Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"but its very, very close, don't worry and great people are working on closing even that gap ^^ Domenic_","date":"2013-08-17T01:12:37.639Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"oh, my iframe + xhr idea is bad because of X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN","date":"2013-08-17T01:13:21.891Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"damn","date":"2013-08-17T01:13:22.735Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"use CORS","date":"2013-08-17T01:14:38.811Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i'm not in control of the servers","date":"2013-08-17T01:14:49.763Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"well i cant help you there","date":"2013-08-17T01:15:15.045Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"so my fallback idea is (1) check if the domain is the same as the currently loaded page, and if so use http-browserify's local xhr stuff, and (2) xhr cors to something that is running a proxy on an endpoint that will do the request for you.","date":"2013-08-17T01:16:31.322Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"is there anything like #2 that does server-side outbound http requests if you're in node, and otherwise routes to a local proxy server if you're client-side?","date":"2013-08-17T01:18:07.421Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"and does http-browserify work with xhr+cors?","date":"2013-08-17T01:19:08.964Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"according to http://logs.nodejs.org/stackvm/2012-11-13 .. 00:02:53 <Raynos> dominictarr: http-browserify doesn't support cors","date":"2013-08-17T01:20:17.905Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"I thought the server is the part that does CORS, not the client?","date":"2013-08-17T01:23:43.184Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"by default xmlhttprequest2 handles cors","date":"2013-08-17T01:24:52.506Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"substack: that is correct, the other part is handled by the browser itself","date":"2013-08-17T01:25:29.336Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"although according to this http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/cors/ you can do something browser side as well","date":"2013-08-17T01:26:31.864Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"I have some notes/resources about CORS here: https://github.com/thlorenz/dox/blob/master/web/cross-site-scripting.md#cross-origin-resource-sharing-cors","date":"2013-08-17T01:26:58.971Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"if you are in IE you have to use XDomainRequest","date":"2013-08-17T01:27:36.034Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"kanzure: you could make the request from the main page and communicate with your iframe to get the data across: http://viget.com/extend/using-javascript-postmessage-to-talk-to-iframes","date":"2013-08-17T01:28:08.942Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"mbalho: yeah, CORS with IE is borked in general","date":"2013-08-17T01:28:34.159Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"especially up to IE8","date":"2013-08-17T01:28:46.243Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"i would use http-browserify more if it didnt depend on Buffer (which causes bundle bloat)","date":"2013-08-17T01:29:00.217Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"i think its just for this line https://github.com/substack/http-browserify/blob/master/lib/request.js#L40","date":"2013-08-17T01:29:18.429Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"substack","message":"do you have a base64 function handy?","date":"2013-08-17T01:29:45.628Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"mbalho","message":"https://npmjs.org/package/js-base64 looks good","date":"2013-08-17T01:31:08.248Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"oh that does a conditional buffer require","date":"2013-08-17T01:31:44.179Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"ahh this polyfills window.btoa https://github.com/davidchambers/Base64.js/blob/master/base64.js","date":"2013-08-17T01:33:31.125Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"mbalho","message":"substack: yea require('Base64').btoa looks good","date":"2013-08-17T01:34:55.136Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"browserify entry.js > bundle.js doesn't work anymore here https://github.com/substack/request-browserify-example","date":"2013-08-17T01:47:36.222Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"Error: ENOENT, open 'dns' while resolving \"dns\" from file node_modules/request/node_modules/hawk/node_modules/sntp/lib/index.js","date":"2013-08-17T01:47:56.909Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"oh i guess i should substitute this one? https://github.com/iriscouch/browser-request","date":"2013-08-17T01:48:40.203Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"substack","message":"kanzure: or there's http://npmjs.org/package/hyperquest","date":"2013-08-17T01:51:28.539Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"substack: does this work outside of browserify?","date":"2013-08-17T01:52:22.743Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"yes","date":"2013-08-17T01:52:32.248Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"substack: perf increase with a big red diff!  ftw!","date":"2013-08-17T02:31:57.546Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"substack: that's like a double-win","date":"2013-08-17T02:32:04.312Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"substack","message":"isaacs: pretty much","date":"2013-08-17T02:34:11.497Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"it's still clunky to use streams2 for some userlandy things but they're pretty good for low level stuff","date":"2013-08-17T02:34:38.771Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"substack: I'm telling you, every time I see Ashton Kutcher staring angrily in that mirror, I see you raging about, like, rails or something idk","date":"2013-08-17T02:35:49.456Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"s/rails/jasmine/","date":"2013-08-17T02:36:08.968Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"chrisdickinson: created a very condensed example of inner/outer streams: https://gist.github.com/thlorenz/6254995","date":"2013-08-17T02:44:03.056Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"this one doesn't require oneToOne relationship","date":"2013-08-17T02:44:19.309Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"so at the moment i am using concat-stream to wait for html to be fully buffered before i parse the html. but theoretically i might use a streaming html parser. and the output of my html parser is some metadata in json. so should i be emitting bits of json somehow from my parser, instead of a dictionary i pass into a callback?","date":"2013-08-17T02:44:34.288Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"and if so, how do i do streaming json like that","date":"2013-08-17T02:44:43.040Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I wouldn't worry too much about it :)","date":"2013-08-17T02:45:04.283Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"substack: thanks, hyperquest is working well","date":"2013-08-17T02:45:24.920Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"please add your thoughts ideas here: https://gist.github.com/thlorenz/6254995, so that I have a head start tomorrow - chrisdickinson substack jcrugzz Raynos","date":"2013-08-17T02:48:30.468Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"kanzure: http://github.com/substack/node-trumpet","date":"2013-08-17T02:49:31.912Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"oh yeah","date":"2013-08-17T02:50:15.522Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"thlorenz: do you duplexer(inner, outer) with that?","date":"2013-08-17T02:50:19.740Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"substack: both outer and inner would be read streams as far as I had imagined","date":"2013-08-17T02:51:34.103Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"substack: this is the problem I was trying to solve originally: https://github.com/thlorenz/valuepack-mine/blob/master/lib/get-github-logins.js","date":"2013-08-17T02:52:21.048Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"works with leveldb readStreams -- which will be about 17% faster I heard ;)","date":"2013-08-17T02:52:46.097Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"substack: in this case the npmusers is outer and their packages the inner","date":"2013-08-17T02:53:34.447Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"substack: so i want tr.selectAll(\"title\", function (title) { title.createReadStream().pipe(metadatastream.emit(\"data\", {title: title... erm, no.","date":"2013-08-17T02:54:44.064Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"hmm","date":"2013-08-17T02:54:50.571Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"maybe i want through()?","date":"2013-08-17T02:55:50.212Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i just want to emit something like {\"title\": \"title\"} i think.","date":"2013-08-17T02:59:52.140Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"var output = through(); tr.selectAll('title', function (title) { output.queue({ title: title }) })","date":"2013-08-17T03:02:30.292Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"where do i send output?","date":"2013-08-17T03:02:48.277Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i return it to my user?","date":"2013-08-17T03:03:07.474Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Domenic_: is there a good way to \"de-promise\" promises? Like, does Q have some sugars for that?","date":"2013-08-17T03:04:07.846Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Domenic_: that is: I'd like to try using promises in some project or other but want to expose a \"node-style callbacks\" api, at least optionally","date":"2013-08-17T03:04:55.320Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"substack: did you want me to make a pull req to http-browserify for base64?","date":"2013-08-17T03:06:16.550Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"mbalho: sounds good!","date":"2013-08-17T03:07:01.573Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"but for me, it's burrito time!","date":"2013-08-17T03:07:30.165Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"STOP","date":"2013-08-17T03:07:41.068Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"burrito time","date":"2013-08-17T03:07:55.337Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"you can't stop burritos..","date":"2013-08-17T03:07:59.436Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"that's right!","date":"2013-08-17T03:09:02.784Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"isaacs","message":"substack: streams3 are way better.","date":"2013-08-17T03:11:06.640Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"isaacs","message":"substack: 3 = 2 | 1","date":"2013-08-17T03:11:13.217Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ik","message":"burriot","date":"2013-08-17T03:13:14.020Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"skeptical","date":"2013-08-17T03:17:07.503Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"substack: what are the rules for buffer-browserify getting included? require('buffer') or just the existence of Buffer","date":"2013-08-17T03:18:57.436Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"Domenic_: I want to talk a bit about promises if I get to speak at cascadiajs :)","date":"2013-08-17T03:20:44.427Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"substack: i think browserify is including buffer-browserify because I am doing if (typeof(Buffer) !== \"undefined\") in concat-stream","date":"2013-08-17T03:21:35.760Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"so, i have a hyperquest request and a trumpet() stream. and then i also have a through() stream. which one should i return? if there's an error on the hyperquest request, how do i propagate that, versus an error when something unexpected happens in my trumpet() stream?","date":"2013-08-17T03:28:19.994Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"substack","message":"mbalho: that will trigger it, yes","date":"2013-08-17T03:31:37.486Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"substack: any way to not trigger it?","date":"2013-08-17T03:32:14.284Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"don't use `Buffer` anyplace","date":"2013-08-17T03:32:32.724Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"thats too bad","date":"2013-08-17T03:33:07.702Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"mbalho: what's wrong with buffer-browserify? because i see that trumpet uses Buffer a few places.","date":"2013-08-17T03:42:23.256Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mbalho","message":"kanzure: its just 100kb of code that is usually overkill","date":"2013-08-17T03:43:02.546Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"mbalho","message":"substack: ahh it looks like browserify -r bops doesnt trigger the buffer-browserify inclusion","date":"2013-08-17T04:03:43.530Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"maybe i can just do hyperquest.get().pipe(trumpeter).pipe(output) ?","date":"2013-08-17T04:07:27.757Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"this is what i'm attempting to figure out https://gist.github.com/kanzure/6255244","date":"2013-08-17T04:19:16.880Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"kanzure: what are you trying to do exactly?","date":"2013-08-17T04:27:39.631Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"jcrugzz: i am parsing metadata from an html document and i want to stream the parsed info","date":"2013-08-17T04:34:41.714Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"jcrugzz: i'm just not sure how to get from where i am to where i want to be :)","date":"2013-08-17T04:34:52.367Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"kanzure: you might want something like https://github.com/fb55/htmlparser2 for html parsing","date":"2013-08-17T04:37:24.429Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"but i guess it depends if your meta data is all css slectorable","date":"2013-08-17T04:37:55.119Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"it's mostly css selectorable :)","date":"2013-08-17T04:38:05.143Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"i just see trumpet as more of a templater","date":"2013-08-17T04:38:16.746Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i worry about how to propagate errors","date":"2013-08-17T04:38:23.932Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"api wise","date":"2013-08-17T04:38:24.363Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"or which streams to return.. or erm.. pipes?","date":"2013-08-17T04:38:33.080Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"because a user probably wants the metadata i parse out, but also would like to know if there was an error somewhere in the process","date":"2013-08-17T04:38:45.900Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"kanzure: you need to make what you are building more concrete","date":"2013-08-17T04:39:07.351Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"design the api of how the user is interacting with it first","date":"2013-08-17T04:39:17.355Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i did that already, my api was wrong","date":"2013-08-17T04:39:23.896Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"https://github.com/kanzure/papermonk-downloader-plosone/blob/master/index.js#L24","date":"2013-08-17T04:39:42.119Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i don't want to use concat-stream there","date":"2013-08-17T04:39:53.983Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"well read through those trumpet and just start trying it and see what breaks :). just add the error listener before you pipe the stream","date":"2013-08-17T04:41:46.457Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"but i don't want to listen, i want the user to be able to listen","date":"2013-08-17T04:42:00.947Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"(for an error)","date":"2013-08-17T04:42:09.967Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"kanzure: ok hold on a second then","date":"2013-08-17T04:42:24.027Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"and how do i get that hyperquest-related error to appear in my \"output\" through() ?","date":"2013-08-17T04:42:28.277Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"you can make the overall objec an event emitter","date":"2013-08-17T04:42:30.449Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i see","date":"2013-08-17T04:42:40.935Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"kanzure: so youd do something like https://github.com/jcrugzz/hades/blob/master/lib/hades.js#L13 and have the object you are exporting inherit from an event emitter","date":"2013-08-17T04:46:48.586Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"and then you can add error listeners to it https://github.com/jcrugzz/hades/blob/master/lib/hades.js#L13","date":"2013-08-17T04:47:09.744Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"is there a way to do it with just streams?","date":"2013-08-17T04:47:34.387Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"kanzure: if you are creating a thing that you are exporting functions on","date":"2013-08-17T04:48:22.194Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"and you want a user to be using it","date":"2013-08-17T04:48:27.154Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"this is a way to propagate those errors","date":"2013-08-17T04:48:36.938Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"kanzure: it sounds like you are trying to make a module of sorts but need to refine its purpose :)","date":"2013-08-17T04:49:01.968Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"does it sound ambiguous? it seems to test well at the moment.","date":"2013-08-17T04:49:29.230Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"maybe i'm just bad at streams and event emitters","date":"2013-08-17T04:49:47.007Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"jcrugzz","message":"kanzure: they take some practice, took me a while before i was comfortable using them :). i just read through people's code, try using it and see if it breaks","date":"2013-08-17T04:50:24.618Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"oh i see, node-trumpet's Result inherits from EventEmitter too.","date":"2013-08-17T04:50:31.799Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"but there's no default error handler defined on that one","date":"2013-08-17T04:50:56.364Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"https://github.com/substack/node-trumpet/blob/master/index.js","date":"2013-08-17T04:51:04.312Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"calling your event emitter Result seems like a cop-out :p","date":"2013-08-17T04:51:35.431Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"mikolalysenko: hi","date":"2013-08-17T14:35:25.305Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"this is disapointing http://qz.com/115831/googles-20-time-which-brought-you-gmail-and-adsense-is-now-as-good-as-dead/?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffere4f1a&utm_medium=twitter#!","date":"2013-08-17T14:40:08.265Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"stackvm is gonna have to double our efforts!","date":"2013-08-17T14:40:34.138Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i tried to combine my trumpet object with hyperquest's request stream and my output stream https://github.com/kanzure/papermonk-downloader-plosone/blob/master/index.js#L27","date":"2013-08-17T14:47:11.730Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"not sure if i got that right. shouldn't there be a way to not have to do request.on(\"error\", function(error) { output.emit(\"error\", error); }) ?","date":"2013-08-17T14:47:28.830Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"(the output of parser(output) is a trumpet() object that is reading from the hyperquest stream)","date":"2013-08-17T14:47:49.832Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"juliangruber: hey, mulilevel build is failing","date":"2013-08-17T15:02:01.552Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"on travis","date":"2013-08-17T15:02:05.268Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"confirmed","date":"2013-08-17T15:08:10.017Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"juliangruber","message":"dominictarr: I know, can't reproduce on my laptop :(","date":"2013-08-17T15:19:58.588Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"mapbe reinstall deps?","date":"2013-08-17T15:20:17.556Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"juliangruber: just made a pull request to fix it","date":"2013-08-17T15:20:41.026Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"juliangruber","message":"dominictarr: reinstalled deps, same effect","date":"2013-08-17T15:25:40.734Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"juliangruber","message":"but it is good now!","date":"2013-08-17T15:25:46.270Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"juliangruber: do you have anything that you think should be added to this https://github.com/rvagg/node-levelup/issues/174","date":"2013-08-17T15:29:59.941Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"juliangruber","message":"dominictarr: oh, yeah right, almost forgot about this one!","date":"2013-08-17T15:30:46.985Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"juliangruber","message":"will do now","date":"2013-08-17T15:30:51.312Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"juliangruber: what if, instead of {start: \"foo!\", end:\"foo!~\" } you just did {prefix: \"foo!\"}","date":"2013-08-17T15:51:32.337Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"+1 on benchmarks","date":"2013-08-17T15:58:16.054Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"juliangruber","message":"dominictarr: I was thinking of db.prefix('foo').createReadStream because that's easier to nest","date":"2013-08-17T16:19:19.299Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"juliangruber","message":"but {prefix:\"\"} would work too!","date":"2013-08-17T16:19:30.665Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"or just prefix(db, \"foo\") ?","date":"2013-08-17T16:20:01.344Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"often you just want a prefix anyway, so maybe will add prefix option to sublevel","date":"2013-08-17T16:20:26.361Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"as shorthand","date":"2013-08-17T16:20:41.049Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"dominictarr: chrisdickinson: here is what I came up with to not have to manually have to count pending items: https://github.com/thlorenz/async-through","date":"2013-08-17T16:40:17.071Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"critique/suggestions welcome","date":"2013-08-17T16:40:24.069Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"thlorenz: I think it would be better to put a callback in on data rather than overloading this.queue","date":"2013-08-17T16:42:12.274Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"dominictarr: thought about that, but I wanted to keep API as compat with through as possible","date":"2013-08-17T16:42:43.481Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"dominictarr: I could provide that as an alternative, but then there would be too many ways of doing the same thing","date":"2013-08-17T16:43:51.760Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"dominictarr: is there a big gotcha with overloading stream.queue() that I'm not aware of?","date":"2013-08-17T16:45:10.427Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"not really","date":"2013-08-17T16:45:22.379Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"it's just a style thing, doesn't matter really.","date":"2013-08-17T16:46:39.895Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"dominictarr: ok, so I guess providing a callback would be more in line with streams2.Transform I suppose, but lotsa people just like through ;)","date":"2013-08-17T16:49:12.268Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"of course, it's your module.","date":"2013-08-17T16:50:12.828Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"is there a tool to search npmjs.org based on dependencies? for instance, if i want to find the set of packages that depend on both concat-stream and through?","date":"2013-08-17T21:19:59.644Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"kanzure: no but you could write one!","date":"2013-08-17T21:22:52.382Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i'm looking around at my available pieces. it doesn't seem there's a module yet that downloads package.json files only?","date":"2013-08-17T21:23:09.558Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"https://npmjs.org/package/npmd","date":"2013-08-17T21:23:27.657Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"I'm working on this","date":"2013-08-17T21:23:31.457Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"it is an alternate npm client","date":"2013-08-17T21:23:40.577Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"npm-package-sync seems to only store package names to a file(?)","date":"2013-08-17T21:23:41.008Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"it downloads all the package.json's into a leveldb","date":"2013-08-17T21:23:52.857Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"how much data is that?","date":"2013-08-17T21:24:12.578Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"so it can resolve the module tree without going over the network.","date":"2013-08-17T21:24:13.367Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"it's not that much","date":"2013-08-17T21:24:23.777Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"can you give me an order of magnitude estimate?","date":"2013-08-17T21:24:35.805Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"it's currently 200 mb on mine","date":"2013-08-17T21:25:08.857Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"and that is including indexes","date":"2013-08-17T21:25:17.657Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"38161 packages * 5-10 kilobytes each.. yeah okay. that's cool.","date":"2013-08-17T21:25:18.864Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"kanzure: it's more modules that that because it's module-versions","date":"2013-08-17T21:25:55.696Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"more like 100k module versions","date":"2013-08-17T21:26:08.230Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"oh right","date":"2013-08-17T21:26:11.333Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"but package.json's are pretty small.","date":"2013-08-17T21:26:18.816Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"does npmjs.org accept packages with malformed package.json?","date":"2013-08-17T21:26:25.762Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"some of them are a little weird","date":"2013-08-17T21:27:06.247Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"since there has been modules published with all different versions of npm","date":"2013-08-17T21:27:25.737Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"it looks like i can add commands to npmd? so i would want to make a plugin that queries leveldb?","date":"2013-08-17T21:27:39.462Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"kanzure: yes!","date":"2013-08-17T21:28:03.217Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"oh, no, the plugins list is hardcoded","date":"2013-08-17T21:28:18.814Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"kanzure: that is only because so far I'm the only one who has written one","date":"2013-08-17T21:28:43.857Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"if you want to write one I'll fix that!","date":"2013-08-17T21:28:52.417Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i am currently shaving yaks i think. i'm trying to decide if i want to continue yak shaving.","date":"2013-08-17T21:29:54.750Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"what are the numbers that npmd --sync spits out?","date":"2013-08-17T21:31:53.102Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"kanzure: that is the percentage that you have replicated so far","date":"2013-08-17T21:34:06.158Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"npmd packages gives me \"/usr/local/lib/node_modules/npmd/node_modules/npmd-link/node_modules/get-deps/index.js:6 TypeError: Cannot set property 'x256' of undefined\"","date":"2013-08-17T21:35:12.998Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"npmd --help also does that.","date":"2013-08-17T21:35:33.104Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"can only one instance of npmd be running at a time?","date":"2013-08-17T21:35:57.588Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"evbogue","message":"ls","date":"2013-08-17T21:40:02.694Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"evbogue","message":"shit","date":"2013-08-17T21:40:07.439Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"substack","message":"dominictarr: have you made any progress on that normalize/denormalize reference idea for leveldb?","date":"2013-08-17T22:04:50.653Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"I was thinking I could build that on top of foreign-key without too much trouble","date":"2013-08-17T22:05:02.710Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"I can just generate a separate index for each foreign reference","date":"2013-08-17T22:05:26.210Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"substack: which idea?","date":"2013-08-17T22:05:29.164Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"thlorenz","message":"chrisdickinson: https://github.com/thlorenz/nest-stream","date":"2013-08-17T22:05:41.395Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"kanzure: yes only once instance - that is because of how leveldb works","date":"2013-08-17T22:05:48.282Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"dominictarr: documents with nested foreign collections of other documents","date":"2013-08-17T22:05:59.057Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"however, second instances can connect to it","date":"2013-08-17T22:06:07.043Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"substack: so, like, enter normalized docs and generate a normalized doc?","date":"2013-08-17T22:07:01.363Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"on a hook/trigger?","date":"2013-08-17T22:07:11.135Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"enter some rules to establish foreign key relations","date":"2013-08-17T22:08:15.602Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"and then the library builds aggregate records for you","date":"2013-08-17T22:08:47.554Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"that is a good idea.","date":"2013-08-17T22:09:20.202Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"would probably be easiest to write the normalized records and have have the module create the denormalized value","date":"2013-08-17T22:11:38.451Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"dominictarr: it seems to slow down near the end (99.50 through >99.88)","date":"2013-08-17T22:11:39.642Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"kanzure: possibly","date":"2013-08-17T22:12:07.433Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"need some analylics or something to figure that out","date":"2013-08-17T22:12:26.075Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"I think the indexes start getting busy","date":"2013-08-17T22:12:36.982Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"or it might be on the couch end","date":"2013-08-17T22:12:46.362Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"(as it pulls this data from couchdb _changes feed)","date":"2013-08-17T22:13:18.943Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"mk30: hey whats up?","date":"2013-08-17T22:17:08.186Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mk30","message":"not much! still in ireland?","date":"2013-08-17T22:17:55.822Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"yeah","date":"2013-08-17T22:18:22.424Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mk30","message":"weird","date":"2013-08-17T22:18:26.201Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"living in a house","date":"2013-08-17T22:18:38.343Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mk30","message":"wat","date":"2013-08-17T22:18:40.986Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"but don't worry, I have renounced shoes.","date":"2013-08-17T22:18:51.732Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mk30","message":"thank god","date":"2013-08-17T22:18:56.066Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"still wear pants though","date":"2013-08-17T22:19:06.662Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"substack: can you check my work with hyperquest/trumpet? https://gist.github.com/kanzure/6258965 this \"works\" but i don't know if it's correct.","date":"2013-08-17T22:19:50.189Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mk30","message":"who needs shoes in those cloudy peat haddocks and on the shores of the gentle loughs","date":"2013-08-17T22:19:57.319Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"mk30","message":"pants ok, i guess","date":"2013-08-17T22:20:17.825Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"dominictarr: npmd isn't spinning its wheels but it's left at \"100\" and it's just sitting here without exiting. should i kill it?","date":"2013-08-17T22:20:33.932Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"no","date":"2013-08-17T22:20:43.835Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"now it keeps the connection open so that it recieves realtime changes","date":"2013-08-17T22:21:11.426Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"\"npmd packages\" still fails in another terminal.","date":"2013-08-17T22:21:43.413Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"how do i search its index?","date":"2013-08-17T22:22:40.854Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"kanzure: what error do you get?","date":"2013-08-17T22:22:42.451Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"\"/usr/local/lib/node_modules/npmd/node_modules/npmd-link/node_modules/get-deps/index.js:6 TypeError: Cannot set property 'x256' of undefined\"","date":"2013-08-17T22:22:52.554Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"can you post an issue?","date":"2013-08-17T22:23:21.310Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"with full stack trace?","date":"2013-08-17T22:23:32.651Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"is \"packages\" supposed to work?","date":"2013-08-17T22:24:53.293Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"or --help?","date":"2013-08-17T22:25:13.518Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"https://github.com/dominictarr/npmd/issues/18","date":"2013-08-17T22:26:23.858Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"am i supposed to be running this in a particular location?","date":"2013-08-17T22:29:07.434Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"somewhere in the stacktrace it's calling process.cwd() which doesn't make sense to me-- if i want to merely benefit from searching through package.json files, i shouldn't have to be in a node project.","date":"2013-08-17T22:29:32.270Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"throw new Error('package.json can not be located');","date":"2013-08-17T22:30:34.578Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"ah","date":"2013-08-17T22:32:49.456Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"does `npmd packages` work?","date":"2013-08-17T22:33:12.084Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"just running `npmd` would do nothing","date":"2013-08-17T22:33:23.879Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"should probably make that print help info","date":"2013-08-17T22:33:32.025Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"same error with \"npmd packages\"","date":"2013-08-17T22:33:35.894Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i've updated https://github.com/dominictarr/npmd/issues/18","date":"2013-08-17T22:33:39.731Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"sorry, i mean same error as the latest comment on #18","date":"2013-08-17T22:33:55.614Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"also, my /tmp does not have node_modules. i suppose it's possible that someone else's might.","date":"2013-08-17T22:34:18.550Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"that should be okay","date":"2013-08-17T22:35:13.407Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"try `npm versions modulename`","date":"2013-08-17T22:35:32.922Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"s/npm/npmd/","date":"2013-08-17T22:35:41.781Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"and npmd resolve modulename","date":"2013-08-17T22:35:49.051Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"npmd versions modulename just exits","date":"2013-08-17T22:36:02.718Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"npmd resolve modulename gives me \"Error: range not found\"","date":"2013-08-17T22:36:16.470Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"and a stacktrace","date":"2013-08-17T22:36:20.682Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"npmd resolve npmd gives me a dump of json","date":"2013-08-17T22:36:43.962Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"npmd versions npmd gives me a list of versions. i didn't know if modulename was a real module :).","date":"2013-08-17T22:37:13.918Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"oh, is \"npmd packages\" supposed to do some function based on a local packages.json file? i see.","date":"2013-08-17T22:38:15.634Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"kanzure: replace \"modulename\" with the name of your favorite module","date":"2013-08-17T22:50:03.291Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"npmd packges just dumps all the package names","date":"2013-08-17T22:57:46.346Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"npmd versions $MODULE","date":"2013-08-17T22:58:00.425Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"dumps versions of a particular module","date":"2013-08-17T22:58:08.605Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"is there a way to make config.verbose == true from the command line?","date":"2013-08-17T23:03:14.673Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"--verbose","date":"2013-08-17T23:08:31.166Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"it's just optimist","date":"2013-08-17T23:08:40.856Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"(via rc)","date":"2013-08-17T23:08:46.235Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"--verbose dumps README.md to my screen","date":"2013-08-17T23:10:37.886Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"dominictarr: https://github.com/dominictarr/npmd/pull/19","date":"2013-08-17T23:10:51.571Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"nice!","date":"2013-08-17T23:12:16.806Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i am not proud of that because i just dump everything to console.log :(","date":"2013-08-17T23:13:08.798Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"we can fix it later","date":"2013-08-17T23:18:33.681Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"kanzure: you want duplexer","date":"2013-08-17T23:22:52.538Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"var dup = duplexer(tr, outstream); return duplexer","date":"2013-08-17T23:23:14.274Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"CORRECTION: return dup","date":"2013-08-17T23:23:22.138Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"http://npmjs.org/package/duplexer","date":"2013-08-17T23:23:33.949Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"substack: npmd can now install globals! next, compiled modules","date":"2013-08-17T23:26:35.294Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"then it will self install","date":"2013-08-17T23:26:44.923Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"tomorrow, maybe.","date":"2013-08-17T23:26:50.814Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"dominictarr","message":"night all!","date":"2013-08-17T23:26:55.814Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"substack: thanks, i'll try that out.","date":"2013-08-17T23:28:07.666Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"kanzure","message":"substack: this seems to do what i want, is it sane? return duplexer(duplexer(tr, request), outstream)","date":"2013-08-17T23:49:40.292Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"when i attach a .on(\"error\") there, i get dns errors propagated. but if i just use duplexer(tr, outstream), the dns error becomes unhandled.","date":"2013-08-17T23:51:46.676Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"i updated https://gist.github.com/kanzure/6258965","date":"2013-08-17T23:54:07.317Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"kanzure: no just request.pipe(tr)","date":"2013-08-17T23:57:48.246Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"you only need a single duplexer()","date":"2013-08-17T23:58:08.183Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"but i get throw er; // Unhandled stream error in pipe.","date":"2013-08-17T23:58:10.172Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"substack","message":"but repropagate the error","date":"2013-08-17T23:58:13.615Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"like this? request.on(\"error\", function(error) { outstream.emit(\"error\", error) })","date":"2013-08-17T23:58:33.750Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"kanzure","message":"is that repropagating?","date":"2013-08-17T23:58:47.234Z","type":"message"}