[Idle-dev] Feedback appreciated for two suggested new features

[IrvKalb]

BPO	37197
Nosy	@taleinat, @IrvKalb
Superseder	bpo-37177: IDLE: Search dialogs can be hidden behind the main window

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title = '[Idle-dev] Feedback appreciated for two suggested new features'
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[IrvKalb]

[I'm not sure of the proper protocol here, I hope sending a message this way is OK.]

Hi,

I am writing about the potential fix to the Search Dialog box problem in IDLE that I reported a while back. I can see that there is a flurry of activity on this bug. I saw that there was a code change, but since I have never looked at IDLE source code, I really cannot comment on the fix.

However, I did see comments that it might be difficult to reproduce, so I made a short video to clearly demonstrate the bug. (This is on IDLE/Python 3.6.1 Mac) You can see it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWDsOEN8qsE <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWDsOEN8qsE\>

I did not get a chance to test this out on Window, but the bug is easily reproducible on a Mac.

If the change is to leave the dialog box in front of the editing window, that would be be fine. But long term, if it is possible to incorporate a search bar like the one in PyCharm, that would be even better.

Thanks for addressing the issue and I hope this video is helpful.

Irv

On Jun 6, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Tal Einat <taleinat@gmail.com> wrote:

After a great delay, I've created an issue[0] about the search dialogs being hidden behind the main window, and have a PR[1] up with a proposed fix.

[0] https://bugs.python.org/issue37177 <https://bugs.python.org/issue37177\>
[1] #13869 <https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/13869\>
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 8:13 PM Irv Kalb <Irv@furrypants.com <mailto:Irv@furrypants.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I don't have a strong opinion about the details of the search and replace dialogs. However, I can tell you that a change replacing the dialog box would be greatly appreciated.

I teach Python classes using IDLE. The search dialog is a real a problem for new students and me as the teacher. My students and I often get into a scenario where the search dialog gets hidden behind a editing window. When that happens, then you try to make edits in code and nothing happens. This happens to very often. I have learned to look for the hidden search dialog window, but my students get very flustered.

I think that a search bar would be a great improvement. If you can model it similar to the one in PyCharm, that would be wonderful.

Thanks for looking into this issue.

Irv

> On Oct 13, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Tal Einat <taleinat@gmail.com <mailto:taleinat@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've recently been working on two new features, for which I'd like to discuss whether it would be wise to include in IDLE. Each has a working implementation in a PR to make it easy to give it a try.
>
> 1. Replace the search and replace dialogs with a search bar
> https://bugs.python.org/issue34976 <https://bugs.python.org/issue34976\>
> #9855 <https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/9855\>
>
> 2. Ability to run 3rd party code checkers
> https://bugs.python.org/issue21880 <https://bugs.python.org/issue21880\>
> #9802 <https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/9802\>
>
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
>
> - Tal Einat
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[SilentGhost]

This seems to have been posted to bpo by mistake. I'm going to close this issue as a duplicate of bpo-37177 and I would appreciate if you would send your e-mail to the idle-dev mailing list instead.