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Future of Sentinelsat after the termination of the Copernicus Open Access Hub #607

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j08lue opened this issue Nov 2, 2023 · 14 comments
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@j08lue
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j08lue commented Nov 2, 2023

Copernicus Open Access Hub / SciHub, the main endpoint this library was used to query, has been permanently terminated.

It is succeeded by the Copernicus Data Space Ecosystem (CDSE).

I think it will take a while for the community to realize that Sentinelsat is currently not a project to turn to for querying and downloading Copernicus data from official archives.

Question to past contributors and maintainers of this project (e.g. @valgur, @kr-stn, @avalentino) and aspiring new ones (@fpl, ++) - what should we do about this repo and the PyPi package?

  • 👍 Archive the repo and with it all the issues, docs, etc that refer to the now obsolete SciHub
  • 🚀 Remove the package from PyPi
  • ❤️ Keep the package but release a version where we removed references of SciHub (default URL etc) - maybe there are still DHuS hubs that use the same protocol?
  • 👀 Keep the repo up, but add disclaimers everywhere that Sentinelsat right now does not work and help is appreciated to turn it into a CDSE client?

Please vote with emojis below 👇, in particular any new committed contributors. (Personal note: after closing this issue (and maybe supporting any actions) within the next month or so, I'll be off this project. 👋 )

@WALEE1789
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Is there any update on this?

@fpl
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fpl commented Nov 5, 2023

I would also add a few rows of warning about the status of the code into the README file on master, even in case of archiving.

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valgur commented Nov 6, 2023

There are still multiple national mirrors using the legacy DHuS system compatible with sentinelsat, so the package should definitely stay on PyPI: https://github.com/kr-stn/awesome-sentinel#data-access

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yhyxzx commented Nov 7, 2023

How to download data for the new CDSE?

@diogocaribe
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Ohhh! Big problem to solve here. We have forest monitoring and depends on this service to continue.

@fpl
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fpl commented Nov 8, 2023

Ohhh! Big problem to solve here. We have forest monitoring and depends on this service to continue.

Well, in #583 there are a few suggestions about some programs that could possibly work now with CDSE. I also managed to write some Perl modules and scripts to replace my now archived https://github.com/fpl/scihub project (if interested, just ask off issue).
The most complicated aspect of the new APIs is that they are still changing (I had to fix OSearch methods even today), so I suspect it shall require some time to have projects decently and stably working.

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vanhog commented Nov 8, 2023

I uses Sentinelsat for a while and it did it's job perfectly. What about sentinelsat_for_CDSE?

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@pedro-cf
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Which API from dataspace copernicus do you recommend to use as replacement ?

@subnet001
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Hi everyone, I'm currently working on a replacement for sentinelsal specifically for CDSE.

https://github.com/SDFIdk/CDSETool

There's a lot missing at the moment but the core functionality is already in place: query and downloading from CDSE. Please check it out, any and all feedback is greatly appreciated!

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j08lue commented Nov 20, 2023

Decision is made - the repo and package stay up, but we should

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@massimozanetti
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I am sorry in advance if I am asking this question the 100th time... but still I don't get exactly from the open issues and the various discussions therein if sentinelsat is going to be updated in the future to support the download of Sentinel products from CDSE. In my center we have a service based on sentinelsat (as many others here and there could have..), should we expect this update, or sentinelsat it is officially dismissed for query and download of Sentinel products?

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fpl commented Jan 23, 2024

I am sorry in advance if I am asking this question the 100th time... but still I don't get exactly from the open issues and the various discussions therein if sentinelsat is going to be updated in the future to support the download of Sentinel products from CDSE. In my center we have a service based on sentinelsat (as many others here and there could have..), should we expect this update, or sentinelsat it is officially dismissed for query and download of Sentinel products?

A few different tools (including EOdag and CDSEtool) can now be decently used to perform strictly a simple search & download from CDSE. I originally kept an eye on sentinelsat classes and functions, and started to make changes, but lost motivation because months ago I needed ASAP a more advanced tool with a local geospatial database. Here we download tons of images continuously and needed to have something more complete than sentinelsat for that. Therefore, now I run our local download system (included here).

About sentinelsat, it has quite a lot of mocks, vcr and tests based on the old system that need to be rewritten from scratch. Maybe in the the next future, at least for me...

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kr-stn commented Jan 25, 2024

@massimozanetti you can regard sentinelsat to be in maintenance mode as is for connecting to DHuS instances.

There is currently no concrete plan to refactor it to support the CDSE infrastructure. This is mostly due to a lack of time from the existing participants. We welcome anyone who would like to contribute that change.

@Juan-Pablo-17
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Hello, my name is Juan. I apologize in advance. I am a Physics student, and I took a course with EO College called "Echoes in Space," which led me to this forum. I learned some basic tools and how to acquire images from the Sentinels. However, I noticed some time ago that the page for acquiring data has changed. I would like to ask if I can still continue acquiring data, and if so, can I still use Snap for satellite images? I am from Colombia, and during the course, I saw a topic on detecting deforestation or oil spills in water. My intention is to base my thesis on something related to these issues in my country. However, I don't know much about other applications besides Snap, and I'm not sure if there are other tools you use. Also, I'm unsure if I can acquire such images from the same location and create a time series to observe changes. Again, I apologize for so many questions.

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