This requires Google Play

[mid-kid]

I don't know why this app requires play, but I don't have / want to have google play installed on my cyanogenmod.

If it's possible, please remove the requirement, otherwise, please elaborate on why it's needed.
Thanks.

[rhodey]

TextSecure uses GCM (Google Cloud Message) which has a dependency on Google Play. I cannot find a link to the explanation I wanted to provide but this is the basic idea: http://en.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1shejv/as_of_today_cyanogenmod_is_integrating/cdy2zu4

[mitar]

Can use of Google Cloud Message be made optional?

[rhodey]

Over winter break of code we had a quick discussion on the topic of an alternative optional data channel model, this might be a good place to start the discussion but we do have mailing list (whispersystems on lists.riseup.net). I also need to take a look around the issue reports because I think this topic might already have a running thread.

The basic idea that was brought up was that while we cannot afford to have each of our 10MM clients polling we might be able to get away with a small subset of those clients polling once every 10, 15, n minutes. Though I do understand the "no google no matter what" perspective, users and devs should keep in mind that the transport (GCM) is not considered to be trusted.

[mitar]

Maybe I do not understand, but for what GCM is used? I thought SMSes are encrypted directly and send as SMSes and not that they have to be send over data?

[moxie0]

TextSecure only requires GSF for data channel messaging. To use SMS/MMS, it doesn't.

[mid-kid]

Then... An idea would be to disable data channel messaging if the user does not have gplay.
I may just fork this repo for a hakky way to do so.

Thanks for your answer.

[moxie0]

It's already optional and will notify the user during registration time.

[mid-kid]

Yup, it's very optional. 😒
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It may be because it's the cyanogenmod-integrated version (cm11 LegacyXperia nightly built on 13/01/2014) of this app.
I haven't looked into it yet.

[moxie0]

That's WhisperPush, not TextSecure. You'll need to talk with the CM folk about that, this is something else.

[mid-kid]

I'm pretty sure it says "Connect with TextSecure".
Sorry for confusing it.

[pejakm]

Will TextSecure work if I install Play Store, register my number and then uninstall the Play Store?

[agrajaghh]

no, you need the play services to send and receive push messages...

[jomo]

Can this please be reconsidered?

It's already hard enough to install TextSecure without Google Play (i.e. on CM), but requiring it for (non-sms) chats is really, really bad for a privacy focused app IMHO.

I would love to use TextSecure, but I don't want to install Google Apps (that probably track me everywhere I go).

I'm sure it's possible to find another way for push messages.
Edit: looks like #1000 is trying to do ^ that, if I'm not mistaken :)