Astroid 2.6.0 fonts folder not working anymore

[Joomlaplates]

Hi Sonny, big problem.
The fonts folder is not working anymore. I think it is because you move some folders from template to media folder.
Many people from EU use this trick and add their own fonts into this folder to avoid loading from Google fonts.
Here is the description what I mean ( switch to english)
https://www.joomlaplates.de/joomla-tips-und-tricks/google-schrift-deaktivieren.html
Greatings Peter

AND btw you cant downgrade from Astroid 2.6.0 to 2.5.20 because all files are already moved and not copied to Joomla/media folder

[sonvnn]

Hi @Joomlaplates
I fixed local font in 2cd14d0

Please help me check it! If everything is good. I will release fixed bug version.

Best Regards,
Sonny

[sonvnn]

Please help me download developer here https://github.com/templaza/astroid-framework/archive/refs/heads/developer.zip

[deltapapa01]

Hey Sonny, thank you very much for your work and the quick help with problems :-)
I can confirm Peter's problem, and I installed developer.zip and the fonts are loading properly again. Only the version is still shown as 2.6.0, but that will surely come in the new version.
But, doesn't it make more sense to put the Fonts folder under images/astroid_template_zero/fonts?
For example, you have the option of embedding fonts locally with the JCE browser direct from Joomla, because the JCE browser and similar tools cannot go to the root level.
WBR from germany,
deltapapa

[sonvnn]

Hi @deltapapa01

I updated feature load font from images/{template}/fonts folder in d572854. You can download developer branch for testing.

Thanks & Best Regards,
Sonny

[deltapapa01]

Hi, i download and test the dev branch, in the first look it looks good :-)
Now, can i delete the fonts folder under media?

WBR,
deltapapa

[sonvnn]

You can use both of them. No need action. System will check both of image and media folder

[deltapapa01]

Okay, i delete the folder under /cms/media/templates/site/fonts and make a new folder under /cms/images/astroid_template_zero/fonts. But now, the fonts will not shown as custom fonts in astroid backend....

WBR,
deltapapa

[Chacapamac]

I just update my comment

Just join the discussion as updating to 2.6.0 cause big difficulties for me to

This is serious business here...
From deltapapa01

But, doesn't it make more sense to put the Fonts folder under images/astroid_template_zero/fonts?
For example, you have the option of embedding fonts locally with the JCE browser direct from Joomla, because the JCE browser and similar tools cannot go to the root level.

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I use JCE forever and will use it for a long times in the future as it is the best editor for Joomla

With JCE you can make a WYSIWYG editor BECAUSE it can load the template CSS, custom local fonts, Awesome icons... directly in the editor windows.

For me this is primordial, I will not use a framework that does not permit that..
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[sonvnn]

Okay, i delete the folder under /cms/media/templates/site/fonts and make a new folder under /cms/images/astroid_template_zero/fonts. But now, the fonts will not shown as custom fonts in astroid backend....

WBR,

deltapapa

May you send me your admin acc via sonlv@templaza.com? I will help you check it

[Joomlaplates]

Hi Sonny, I am on testing and I run in different problems.
Astroid Dev branch 2.6.1
1.) The params folders with json files in it makes problems and Astroid config istn loading.
2.) When I add manually the fonts folder into Template folder the Astroid is not loading anymore.
....
Finally the child theme is usefull for 1% of the user but makes so much trouble. I think a good idea would be, copy all the files to media folder if the user is using child theme and not before.
...
Anyway another idea: Can you add an upload button for fft fonts in the backend?
..
Have a nice day, weekend, greatings Peter

[sonvnn]

In Joomla 4. fonts folder will move to media folder. You have to upload ttf file to media/templates/site/{your-template}/fonts

Please help me try it again!

We are forward to Joomla 4.3 and Joomla 5 in the next year. So we need prepare to follow Joomla structure, asap

[sonvnn]

Anyway another idea: Can you add an upload button for fft fonts in the backend?

For this idea. You can use com Media upload your ttf font to images/{your-template}/fonts

It will load perfectly in the backend

[Chacapamac]

Ok, if I follow the discussion, Astroid 2.6.0 is not Joomla 3 compatible?

[Joomlaplates]

Hi Sonny,
yes everything is working now with Astroid 2.6.1 but fonts must be stored in images/{your-template}/fonts now.
But Joomla media manager is not allowed to upload ttf files.
Thanks a lot, Sonny

[Chacapamac]

@Joomlaplates — 2 questions

1. When you say —> images/{your-template}/fonts
   Do you mean the Root Joomla “images” folder ?

2. Is this can be loaded in the JCE Editor?

[sonvnn]

Ok, if I follow the discussion, Astroid 2.6.0 is not Joomla 3 compatible?

Astroid 2.6.1 is fully Joomla 3 Compatible.

[Chacapamac]

You guys scared me for a second .......
@sonvnn —. Are the templates update (Zero & One) compatible?

[sonvnn]

Hi Sonny, yes everything is working now with Astroid 2.6.1 but fonts must be stored in images/{your-template}/fonts now. But Joomla media manager is not allowed to upload ttf files. Thanks a lot, Sonny

You can configure com media to allow upload ttf files. Please check my screenshot.

Let's try with it and give me your opinion :D

[sonvnn]

You guys scared me for a second ....... @sonvnn —. Are the templates update (Zero & One) compatible?

Sure let's try to download 2.6.1 and upload to your server. Feel free to give me your feedback.
Best Regards,
Sonny

[Chacapamac]

Same link above (developer branch)?

— I guess, for a website with local custom fonts I have to follow what is said here and change my call in my —> astroid_template_zero > scss > custom > custom.css ?

[sonvnn]

I just update my comment

Just join the discussion as updating to 2.6.0 cause big difficulties for me to

This is serious business here... From deltapapa01

But, doesn't it make more sense to put the Fonts folder under images/astroid_template_zero/fonts?
For example, you have the option of embedding fonts locally with the JCE browser direct from Joomla, because the JCE browser and similar tools cannot go to the root level.

————————————————————————————————————— I use JCE forever and will use it for a long times in the future as it is the best editor for Joomla

With JCE you can make a WYSIWYG editor BECAUSE it can load the template CSS, custom local fonts, Awesome icons... directly in the editor windows.

For me this is primordial, I will not use a framework that does not permit that.. —————————————————————————————————————

@Chacapamac I think you misunderstood about @deltapapa01 ideas. He refer a way to upload local font via JCE or Media Component. So that customer can easy to upload local font via JCE instead of FTP account.

I noted that Astroid is fully compatible with JCE. You can use JCE without any worry.
I will create a video introduce how to use local font and create a topic for it on discussion on the next Monday.

Best Regards,
Sonny

[Joomlaplates]

@Joomlaplates — 2 questions

1. When you say —> images/{your-template}/fonts
   Do you mean the Root Joomla “images” folder ?

2. Is this can be loaded in the JCE Editor?

Yes Joomla Root folder/images

[Chacapamac]

Thanks @Joomlaplates , I find that a bit crappy as user will see that {your-template} folder in their images manager that already have others Joomla system folders (like banners) — At least with JCE you can add a clean root image user folder to clean the clutter.

JCE will still be able to load the Astroid templates css in (as example) —> astroid_template_zero > css ?

[deltapapa01]

Hi Sonny,
okay, i sent you the access data for my test site.
I have loaded the fonts via ftp into the folder /cms/images/astroid_template_zero/fonts, but they are not displayed in the Astroid backend or under Media. But they are online.

WBR,
deltapapa

[sonvnn]

Hi @Joomlaplates @Chacapamac @deltapapa01

I upload my screenshots here. I hope you understand how to setup local font on Astroid 2.6.1

1. You can upload ttf to media/templates/site/{template}/fonts or images/{template}/fonts
   

2. Go to template option > typography > choose your custom font
   

3. Go to front-end and check it.
   

Let's check it and give me your feedback.

Thanks & Best Regards,
Sonny

[Chacapamac]

Great, I will test all that with Joomla 3 & 4

[Chacapamac]

Good Night Sonny!

Just try to upload my fonts files directly to the media/fonts folder (I’m not using ttf because it’s the old un-efficient fonts format), I’m using the newer woff format.

Result: the template manager refuse to open with a lots of errors.....

Note: I remove all custom css and just drop the fonts files and clear all caches to be sure.

[fontanil]

Hi,

Did you try that folder?

[sonvnn]

Hi @Chacapamac,

Astroid supports 'otf', 'ttf', 'woff' only. Please help me remove woff2 files.

I test on my localhost and it works perfectly.

Best Regards,
Sonny

[Chacapamac]

@sonvnn ,
I just cleanup everything and try again

This is my Astroid setup on this test website

— Before doing my test, I clean all caches (Astroid, Joomla, Browser) and reload the front page before going to the administration to re-generate the compiled css
— Also no custom.scss in the media or the normal templates/astroid_template_zero folder
— I’m in the right media/templates/sites/astroid_template_zero/fonts folder
— I try 2 woff files (Souce-sans-pro & Barlow) that work perfectly on one of my website

Adding woff

Results:
100% reproducible, any woff file added bring the errors in the template zero administration show above and administration become unresponsive, no woff files, no errors

All woff files are working woff files ( taken from other websites and download from Google fonts directly.

[sonvnn]

@Chacapamac please send me your admin acc via sonlv@templaza.com. I will help you check it.

Thanks & Best regards,
Sonny

[Chacapamac]

Just Send, take your time Sonny. No rush!

Good Day to all Astroid fans!

[sonvnn]

I got it. I will check it tomorrow.

Thanks,
Sonny

[Chacapamac]

Thanks @sonvnn

Are you making that move (from folder “templates” to “medias”) for the new Joomla 4 “Child Templates”?

Good Day!

Also, the first error seem to come from that line of code:

[sonvnn]

Hi @Chacapamac ,

This issue happens because Deprecated issue with PHP 8.1. I updated FontLib to fix Deprecated issue on 5e41a24

Now, Your site works well. Please help me check it again.
Thank you for your cooperate!

Best Regards,
Sonny

[sonvnn]

Thanks @sonvnn

Are you making that move (from folder “templates” to “medias”) for the new Joomla 4 “Child Templates”?

Good Day!

Also, the first error seem to come from that line of code:

Astroid 2.6 will move astroid, params and fonts folders from "template" to "media"

[Chacapamac]

Great @sonvnn ,
— Custom fonts in the “media” folder are working well now and available in the administration without error
— As you said Woff2 is not working... Only ttf & woff

IMPORTANT QUESTION:
You said that:

Astroid 2.6 will move astroid, params and fonts folders from "template" to "media"

My question is, if that move is done by Joomla itself and need to be done by ALL Templates providers or only by Astroid?

• I ask the question, because, JCE Editor seem to not be able, so far ( I’m discussing with the developer of JCE, Ryan on that problem right now!) to display (as it was when the CSS was in the “templates” folder) all the css (compiled and all otthers) in its edition window, loosing the so important WYSIWYG (What You See is What You Get) ability of JCE.

[Chacapamac]

I decide to go deeper to understand what we are doing here and why, and also answer my own question.........
Everybody, if one of my statement is wrong, please correct me!

1. To respond to my question about the stuff moving to the “media” folder????
— If I understand well? From Joomla 4.1, Template providers can decide to permit the possibility to create Child Templates with their Framework/Templates.
— Joomla onboard Template, Cassiopea have that possibility.
— Astroid have now the same possibility

— To permit this possibility you have now 2 places where template files reside

1. The normal Joomlaroot > templates > yourtemplatename folder
2. The Joomlaroot > media > templates > site > yourtemplatename folder

In the case of Cassiopeia
• In the Joomlaroot > templates
Note: I create a Child template for Cassiopeia and Template One just to understand

• In the Joomlaroot > media > templates > site

QUESTION: ——————————————————————————————
In the case of Joomla Cassiopeia, the parent important files (css,images,js, scss) are completely move to the “media” folder

In the case of Astroid Zero & One, the parent important files (css,images,js, scss) are mostly duplicated to the “media” folder**

@sonvnn , Can you explain the difference between Cassiopeia & Astroid?
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I take my infos on Child templates from:
• Deep dive into Joomla Child Templates
https://magazine.joomla.org/all-issues/may-2022/a-deep-dive-into-joomla-child-templates. I will prepare an easy to understand overview of all that and also how to work it out with JCE editor that can be use (if you want) for the Astroid Users out there.

[sonvnn]

Hello @Chacapamac

My question is, if that move is done by Joomla itself and need to be done by ALL Templates providers or only by Astroid?

Now Joomla supports load file both of template and media folder. But In Joomla 5 will remove old MVC model and support media folder only. The template providers should prepare to update their templates for that. Please check Joomla Roadmap.

I ask the question, because, JCE Editor seem to not be able, so far ( I’m discussing with the developer of JCE, Ryan on that problem right now!) to display (as it was when the CSS was in the “templates” folder) all the css (compiled and all otthers) in its edition window, loosing the so important WYSIWYG (What You See is What You Get) ability of JCE.

In the next Astroid version will support load template.css from media/templates/site/{template}/css. So JCE can load style list of Astroid templates even when you use old version. I update it in the commit aaaa5a9 and here https://github.com/templaza/astroid-framework/blob/developer/framework/library/astroid/Document.php#L1140-L1142

In the case of Astroid Zero & One, the parent important files (css,images,js, scss) are mostly duplicated to the “media” folder**

This happen because you install Zero in old site with old files from Zero or One template version. Please download fresh Joomla from Joomla.org and install Zero or One template to that site. You can see they are not duplicated anymore. Please check sceenshots of fresh Install below:

• Here are Zero parent and child template in templates folder
  
• Here are Zero and Cassiopeia child templates in media folder
  

I noted that please install on a fresh Joomla with first install of Astroid and Zero or One. No update in your old Astroid site.

Please help me check it!
Thanks & Best Regards,
Sonny

[Chacapamac]

Thank You @sonvnn for the detail answer. It answer all my question.

Good Weekend!

[Chacapamac]

@sonvnn, you said

This happen because you install Zero in old site with old files from Zero or One template version. Please download fresh Joomla from Joomla.org and install Zero or One template to that site. You can see they are not duplicated anymore. Please check sceenshots of fresh Install below:

You understand that it is not possible to do this with an existing website without having to rebuild the website almost from scratch, this is not a solution for complex website.

What I’m searching now is a safe way to pass an existing website to this new structure.

2 questions:
• What exact framework, templates update versions operate this change?

• If you have any hints how to achieve that, your welcome?

For now all my existing websites are on:

• Framework: 2.5.20
• Zero: 2.5.19

[fontanil]

On some sites where the template was moved to media, As a precaution I made a local copy of the old template/astroid_template_one (or zero) folder then I deleted all the sub-folders except html and language

[sonvnn]

@sonvnn, you said

This happen because you install Zero in old site with old files from Zero or One template version. Please download fresh Joomla from Joomla.org and install Zero or One template to that site. You can see they are not duplicated anymore. Please check sceenshots of fresh Install below:

You understand that it is not possible to do this with an existing website without having to rebuild the website almost from scratch, this is not a solution for complex website.

What I’m searching now is a safe way to pass an existing website to this new structure.

2 questions: • What exact framework, templates update versions operate this change?

• If you have any hints how to achieve that, your welcome?

For now all my existing websites are on:

• Framework: 2.5.20
• Zero: 2.5.19

Astroid 2.6 will move Astroid, Params and Fonts folder only. Because some old templates (from JoomlaPlate, Joomdev and TemPlaza) are not ready for Child-template. They need time to Joomla Template provider update template xml structure and scss code. If Astroid move all folders to Media folder, they might break customer site.

In Zero and One template will create all folders except "html" to Media folder. And Astroid will detech folders both in Media and Templates. If a folder (ex: scss) is exist in Media, Astroid will use it instead of "scss" folder in templates. So, don't worry about old folders in templates folder. They will not use anymore until folders in "media" exist.

If you don't like to see them, you can remove them manually. Please check if a folder is available in Media folder, you can remove it in "templates" folder. That is the solution.

Thanks & Best Regards,
Sonny

[Chacapamac]

Thanks a lot @sonvnn for the clear and complete explanation.
Answer me when you have time....

I test it myself and I’m writing an article concerning the new template child possibility and the necessary update to Joomla 4.1+ and Astroid 2.6.0+ (You can have it for the Astroid website if you like it at the end)

I test with a new website and update from —> Joomla 4.0 — Astroid 2.5.20 / Astroid Template Zero 2.5.19
to
Joomla 4.2.4 — Astroid Framework & Template 2.6.2

This is my test Astroid Zero setup:

WHAT I FIND —————> ( Tell me if I’m right? )
• Updating to Joomla 4.1 or higher
— Does nothing to — Astroid 2.5.20 / Astroid Template Zero 2.5.19
— No changes in both “media” & in the normal “templates” folder for Astroid Template Zero 2.5.19
— Changes in both folders to Cassiopeia. Folders “css, images, js, scss” moves to media

RESULT: No problem with frontend website / custom fonts / custom sccs

ONE QUESTION HERE:
If I first install/update Astroid Framework 2.6 on Joomla 4.0 are the folders still move to the “media” folders or they will be move if I update Joomla?

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• Updating to Astroid Framework 2.6.0 or higher
— Changes to both “media” & the normal “templates” folder for Astroid Template Zero 2.5.19

• In “templates” folder
— Folder “astroid” is move to “media”
— the “css” folder is copy from the “templates” folder (even with already compiled css), but some files are NOT copied/move to the “media” folder (isis folder)
— Custom “fonts” folder is move to “media”
— Folder “param” is move to “media”
— The folder “scss” containing also my optional “custom.scss” are not move/copy to folder “media” but seem to take effect on website frontend

RESULT: No problem with frontend website / custom fonts / custom sccs

ONE QUESTION HERE:
I was expecting the “scss” folder to be move to “media”, can you explain, seem to still work in frontend?

QUESTION: (I am testing that after)
What happen if you update to Astroid 2.6.0 on a existing website with still Joomla 3.10.11?

Good Day for the Astroid Fans!

[sonvnn]

@Chacapamac I will answer you questions one by one, tomorrow. In the next time if you have a question, please create a new topic on discussion. It will help others find their solution. This issue is closed. It is very difficult to follow up.

Best Regards,
Sonny

[Chacapamac]

I’m testing all that now... Take Your Time no rush!
Have a great Day!

[Chacapamac]

@sonvnn You don't have to read my last post, I answer my own question about the “scss“ folder with my new tests

The “scss” folder in the “template” folder is move only if the Astroid template is updated to a template version that support “Child Template” 2.6.0 UP

Now I will try to update a complex Joomla 3 website, If you have any hints, you're welcome

Just after I write this, I will send you a pdf by an email name “Child Template Update” where I wrote in detail the process. (it’s only a draft...)

— The only “bug” that I find so far is that, if you have a “custom” folder with a “custom.scss” when you update the template to a “Child Template” ready Astroid, you get a 500 error in frontend — You need to manually move the “scss” “custom” folder (with the “custom.scss”) to the “media” folder.
Maybe its due to having the “custom.scss” inside a folder (“custom”)???
It will be great if the file “custom.scss” (or custom folder) are automatically move to the “media” folder

[sonvnn]

Hi @Chacapamac

If I first install/update Astroid Framework 2.6 on Joomla 4.0 are the folders still move to the “media” folders or they will be move if I update Joomla?

It depends of your xml file. Please check your xml structure https://github.com/templaza/astroid-framework/blob/zero-template/templateDetails.xml#L27:L33

I was expecting the “scss” folder to be move to “media”, can you explain, seem to still work in frontend?

If you update Astroid 2.6 only "templates/your-template/scss" is still work normally. You don't need move it to "media". If you would like to move it to "media" please check your scss files to correct @import command. Because the location change will make crash "500 error" issue.

What happen if you update to Astroid 2.6.0 on a existing website with still Joomla 3.10.11?

You can update Astroid in Joomla 3.10.11 without any issue.

The only “bug” that I find so far is that, if you have a “custom” folder with a “custom.scss” when you update the template to a “Child Template” ready Astroid, you get a 500 error in frontend — You need to manually move the “scss” “custom” folder (with the “custom.scss”) to the “media” folder.

You have to place custom folder in same location with scss/style.scss If you want to move custom to "media" you have to move all scss files to "media".

Best Regards,
Sonny

[Chacapamac]

Sorry @sonvnn if use this post to talk about that. I did, because the original fonts bug was due to this new structure to allow Child template. Thank You to help me here.

It depends of your xml file. Please check your xml structure
Really interesting, thank You

For the 500 error:
• I have no @import calls in my scss, but I have @font-face calls, can they be seen as @import ?

I think I’m OK from there — Thank You!

[Joomlaplates]

Hi,
I tried out with scss and custom.scss.
For me everything is working even with @import cslls and fonts folder.
This is the folder structure of the child theme in media fodler