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number of residuals from auto_arima is different from what I get from R #181
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So this seems like a duplicate of #175. We currently don't have a way of backing into residuals for differenced arrays based on the way statsmodels computes its time series models. It actually stores the differenced endogenous array internally, so you're probably getting Regarding
Can you please provide a minimal reproducible dataset? Otherwise I can't help too much... |
Thank you. Is there a way to get the fitted values without the residuals. I want the residuals to get the fitted values (fitted values = actual values- residuals)? If there is a way to get the fitted values directly without using the residuals, it will solve my problem. Final question, are the coefficients for the original data or for the differenced data when d>=1? |
Regarding providing a minimal reproducible dataset, if you run the code above and see the orders they are different in R and Python. I generated data with R and saved it to use with Python. |
@tgsmith61591 I will let you answer from an algorithm standpoint, but I have expanded the example, and attached the CSVs from @fissehab's R code to help you out. FilesR> library('forecast')
> set.seed(250)
> ts1 = arima.sim(list(order = c(1,1,0), ar = 0.7), n = 200)
> set.seed(270)
> ts2 = arima.sim(list(order = c(1,2,0), ar = 0.7), n = 200)
> my_fit1 <- auto.arima(ts1, stepwise = FALSE)
> arimaorder(my_fit1)
p d q
1 1 0
> resid1 = as.numeric(residuals(my_fit1))
> resid1
[1] 0.00000000 -0.60364095 0.23826623 0.55722769 -0.23020760 -0.41220075
[7] 0.78253425 -1.87075189 1.19027884 -1.11793094 1.44801661 0.58545044
[13] -0.80168133 0.14150800 -1.26133487 0.69509677 0.37075834 -0.15454742
[19] -0.07506156 -0.65475479 -0.39363677 0.09495343 -2.11172543 -1.39594151
[25] 2.26873247 0.76211905 2.62624271 0.20756791 -0.17519514 0.15366845
[31] -0.75394396 0.40269526 1.30275568 0.03974311 -0.86914667 0.74654955
[37] -1.42677596 -0.11764568 -0.36827530 0.63085923 -0.35568819 0.53503752
[43] -1.11812136 -1.20394944 0.03298737 -0.46537277 1.46181665 0.55329102
[49] 0.65954289 1.07228447 -0.32819218 -0.60029496 0.95860825 0.26066664
[55] -2.09685486 0.27539522 0.18676738 1.31785804 0.74285905 0.85642125
[61] 1.94737305 1.38570623 -1.26571979 -0.25598437 0.83014839 -0.13828312
[67] -1.25833457 0.52988298 -0.18840990 -1.62258951 -1.69961377 1.26925885
[73] -1.23917939 -0.99038214 0.56235865 0.31754259 -1.62379398 0.70405516
[79] 0.33092129 -0.03768896 1.52509539 0.63282506 1.15508415 0.15291803
[85] 0.22988662 -0.29258460 -1.27369507 0.45285668 -0.11829754 -0.05201585
[91] 2.11289020 0.04490440 -2.17809348 -0.57417372 0.51716956 -0.79458069
[97] 0.89607635 0.09921942 -0.80588473 -0.87131186 1.74297724 0.09051064
[103] 0.61534240 -0.33864617 1.52146018 -0.83787263 -0.12031748 -0.18325604
[109] -1.27093387 -0.57869311 -1.43018033 -0.59291123 0.03099888 0.45575181
[115] -0.11544744 -0.41749196 0.51077514 -0.98883678 1.16138394 0.54893279
[121] 1.42583180 -0.61288395 0.76596722 0.83529175 0.10463794 0.69803678
[127] 0.81147072 0.16419393 0.18308735 0.63020989 0.08309077 -0.59091896
[133] -1.17471453 -2.00908007 -1.37471413 2.24625050 -2.66882416 -0.12291356
[139] 1.56299532 0.79906197 1.03739653 0.67977696 0.73662729 -0.73744140
[145] 2.11993889 -0.66426538 -0.46323626 -0.09076647 -0.87879961 0.55516104
[151] 0.20391274 -0.45673926 2.68615995 0.16879682 1.53363369 0.02861250
[157] 0.20392584 -0.23056804 1.41893053 2.46470838 0.69759568 0.32439179
[163] -1.44719100 -0.22394274 0.46879718 -0.54604309 -0.02741070 -0.77379035
[169] 1.00404773 -2.29133983 -0.14150747 0.81702877 -1.06178458 0.84844974
[175] -1.91793674 -0.99835482 -1.95073835 -0.64555812 -0.22738434 0.61966177
[181] 1.37577810 -1.83137609 -0.41625198 -0.68598856 0.56554510 0.21220398
[187] 0.65734704 0.24893157 -0.89582415 -0.24703034 0.41341682 1.05832060
[193] 0.31943008 -1.42929071 -0.55284699 -0.29899667 0.41514233 0.80769373
[199] -0.77864033 -0.63165443 1.26494252
> my_fit2 <- auto.arima(ts2, stepwise = FALSE)
> arimaorder(my_fit2)
p d q
1 2 1
> resid2 = as.numeric(residuals(my_fit2))
> resid2
[1] 0.000000000 0.000000000 0.553135704 0.078884889 -0.772116810
[6] 1.191752479 -0.896232626 -2.062970105 -0.726017862 0.063279693
[11] 0.534729849 -0.020860066 -0.518894344 -1.407545106 1.629950431
[16] 0.237475847 0.929761428 0.285019547 0.002373432 -1.066614459
[21] 0.170374898 0.826748954 0.453558464 0.806905185 -0.201452123
[26] 0.927365195 -0.315056029 -1.605456579 1.001293851 -0.583167870
[31] -0.065537958 0.083631143 -0.943534835 -0.897012857 0.711878920
[36] -1.667809795 -1.275387241 -0.776376336 0.156093004 0.385574839
[41] -1.054707179 0.892523106 -0.118777249 0.002475682 0.321135527
[46] 1.749487912 1.020931367 1.302966504 -0.334985031 0.948290240
[51] -0.073429529 0.787138932 -0.003783066 1.471352449 0.022863341
[56] 0.952155901 -0.656101628 0.354626629 -0.283058924 0.389940980
[61] -1.516544803 -3.240804108 -0.534250486 -1.476116438 -1.722021722
[66] 0.370818601 0.364762301 1.626126667 -0.713186461 0.653185814
[71] -1.262779853 -0.386501740 1.658904794 -1.083788893 0.750618921
[76] 1.394887238 0.807662624 -0.323083799 0.133315768 1.094482551
[81] 0.794963951 -1.044287942 -1.467871008 -0.520638586 -0.292278329
[86] -0.805503298 -0.682879043 1.010176905 1.536099988 -0.011595607
[91] -1.199649546 0.281641646 1.029089762 1.361362113 -1.048213240
[96] 0.546301033 0.561122104 -0.352473797 -0.932481643 -0.748541698
[101] 1.120561884 -0.736398291 -0.792149625 1.265344789 -0.519407130
[106] 0.452189280 -0.874618620 0.702206300 1.505288803 1.559516107
[111] -1.179830908 0.338015212 0.597624322 0.580372875 -1.107022221
[116] 0.555363872 -1.225402072 -0.783824198 0.689679399 1.590894096
[121] -1.133090782 1.412550135 -0.900777500 -0.082785372 0.859001741
[126] 0.928419242 1.134220525 0.754978551 -0.973236489 0.599800489
[131] -0.132953065 -0.276302693 0.894958563 0.525032841 1.342282351
[136] -0.462901967 -0.085348825 0.454797338 -0.306347744 -0.285569856
[141] 0.235856099 0.093424147 -1.031979489 -1.663810205 0.365205998
[146] 0.953019554 0.593837091 -0.298025980 2.177322013 -1.598080966
[151] -1.597428462 0.717544322 -0.338993484 -1.339025519 -0.685849756
[156] -0.962702048 1.418138903 0.276621679 -1.961510365 1.236341138
[161] 0.587880092 0.753530428 -0.481849596 0.904094056 -1.013752658
[166] -1.771149402 1.229417875 -0.672951165 -1.554274939 -1.143091548
[171] 0.553663878 1.577028296 -0.582703829 1.220492864 -0.769572292
[176] 0.703472326 -1.164729050 1.687470894 -0.531875777 0.096395906
[181] -1.808910934 -0.582637245 -0.523091826 0.300103475 -0.960595596
[186] 2.297750029 0.444818093 -1.610805595 -1.501848340 -0.551919250
[191] 1.145908843 1.241342836 -1.824136040 0.059812317 -1.303889251
[196] 0.387169543 -0.430681201 -0.322139411 -2.135068754 0.412077770
[201] -1.522639052 -2.161560121
> ts1 = data.frame(ts1 = ts1)
> write.csv(ts1, 'ts1.csv', row.names = F)
> ts2 = data.frame(ts2 = ts2)
> write.csv(ts2, 'ts2.csv', row.names = F) Python>>> import pandas as pd
>>> from pmdarima.arima import auto_arima
>>> ts1 = pd.read_csv('ts1.csv')
>>> ts2 = pd.read_csv('ts2.csv')
>>> my_fit1 = auto_arima(y=ts1.ts1,
... start_p=1,
... start_q=1,
... max_p=3,
... max_q=3,
... seasonal=False,
... d=None,
... error_action='ignore',
... suppress_warnings=True,
... stepwise=False)
>>> my_fit1.order
(2, 1, 2)
>>> my_fit1.resid()
array([-9.14538020e-01, 1.93464169e-01, 5.24371064e-01, -2.92925696e-01,
-5.18102136e-01, 6.89138707e-01, -1.92777588e+00, 1.04641618e+00,
-1.13247250e+00, 1.31099867e+00, 5.36093529e-01, -9.33193359e-01,
-2.61315078e-02, -1.35341228e+00, 5.62208818e-01, 3.23055935e-01,
-2.56341826e-01, -2.10124293e-01, -7.78631506e-01, -5.34063831e-01,
-2.81301011e-02, -2.22997218e+00, -1.62061311e+00, 2.08168716e+00,
6.67401742e-01, 2.36174743e+00, -2.95062490e-04, -4.78868268e-01,
-7.95617995e-02, -8.96236584e-01, 2.68204549e-01, 1.25381087e+00,
2.59122000e-02, -9.40936265e-01, 6.72041857e-01, -1.39607346e+00,
-1.88237903e-01, -3.62619233e-01, 6.00114482e-01, -3.68871221e-01,
4.44813850e-01, -1.17361653e+00, -1.34713923e+00, -1.05476073e-01,
-5.65589374e-01, 1.28761411e+00, 4.29824178e-01, 4.51267661e-01,
8.75801447e-01, -4.80762914e-01, -7.85236776e-01, 8.14348124e-01,
2.22830032e-01, -2.16703941e+00, 1.12453174e-01, 1.64543106e-01,
1.25540831e+00, 7.06172258e-01, 7.75858444e-01, 1.89455659e+00,
1.42475300e+00, -1.20592661e+00, -2.44709101e-01, 9.87742863e-01,
1.10515575e-01, -1.04865152e+00, 7.05049200e-01, 8.80124260e-02,
-1.40753141e+00, -1.56989975e+00, 1.38072022e+00, -1.03004202e+00,
-9.92185645e-01, 5.35830220e-01, 3.20254047e-01, -1.69565097e+00,
4.99317668e-01, 2.30276822e-01, -2.02685833e-01, 1.31931584e+00,
5.03635370e-01, 9.80913068e-01, 4.21565533e-02, 1.15157303e-01,
-3.42533852e-01, -1.30229213e+00, 4.08596706e-01, -5.96888514e-02,
-4.58378958e-02, 2.10906641e+00, 1.43844338e-01, -2.19172583e+00,
-6.62125322e-01, 5.45546633e-01, -7.38654656e-01, 8.38459924e-01,
1.05828275e-01, -8.71155353e-01, -9.89231359e-01, 1.62111435e+00,
8.67467996e-02, 4.91681918e-01, -4.22675070e-01, 1.40624041e+00,
-8.28313058e-01, -2.20171821e-01, -2.07097737e-01, -1.28579546e+00,
-6.53110878e-01, -1.48003301e+00, -7.29491219e-01, -1.13993685e-01,
2.71657248e-01, -3.45193780e-01, -7.24522597e-01, 1.65722356e-01,
-1.29986193e+00, 7.50757296e-01, 2.46864814e-01, 1.07197921e+00,
-9.09203788e-01, 3.88663220e-01, 5.82687708e-01, -1.13640149e-01,
4.76265114e-01, 6.66810232e-01, 6.44259755e-02, 9.14453151e-02,
5.88158977e-01, 1.04871011e-01, -5.66836931e-01, -1.15393751e+00,
-1.99852351e+00, -1.41606643e+00, 2.19538125e+00, -2.60561076e+00,
-4.15702414e-01, 1.37727224e+00, 6.40497831e-01, 7.86005328e-01,
4.43024921e-01, 5.11265280e-01, -9.09830321e-01, 1.92113663e+00,
-6.54437362e-01, -5.75093869e-01, -1.36377939e-01, -8.74536898e-01,
5.20006723e-01, 2.39965496e-01, -4.62443126e-01, 2.63519378e+00,
2.90901799e-01, 1.52137984e+00, 1.48199054e-01, 3.01543427e-01,
-5.14341118e-02, 1.62868465e+00, 2.80421117e+00, 1.12419973e+00,
7.11614556e-01, -9.83000574e-01, 2.31689031e-01, 1.05120074e+00,
8.21582203e-02, 5.36102251e-01, -1.85103651e-01, 1.53671091e+00,
-1.67855488e+00, 2.60659770e-01, 1.32153145e+00, -5.58644381e-01,
1.19774854e+00, -1.48691621e+00, -7.53739567e-01, -1.67825080e+00,
-4.85561825e-01, -7.72185571e-02, 6.88235934e-01, 1.39716245e+00,
-1.83435110e+00, -6.25850082e-01, -8.15777532e-01, 3.87956568e-01,
6.09959713e-02, 4.43642400e-01, 4.06122799e-02, -1.12948633e+00,
-5.32393800e-01, 1.74436469e-01, 8.44546164e-01, 1.26966200e-01,
-1.66073353e+00, -8.58371590e-01, -5.37814226e-01, 1.70941117e-01,
5.69655669e-01, -1.02394265e+00, -9.75773478e-01, 9.34447674e-01])
>>> my_fit2 = auto_arima(y=ts2.ts2,
... start_p=1,
... start_q=1,
... max_p=3,
... max_q=3,
... seasonal=False,
... d=None,
... error_action='ignore',
... suppress_warnings=True,
... stepwise=False)
>>> my_fit2.order
(3, 2, 2)
>>> my_fit2.resid()
array([ 0.93498424, 0.11865935, -0.74539659, 1.18472186, -0.84989407,
-2.07898243, -0.65103113, 0.01591816, 0.53588411, 0.309986 ,
-0.35468874, -1.5608997 , 1.61819017, 0.54450884, 0.91216129,
0.34138055, 0.04778707, -1.06332563, 0.08631281, 0.87614061,
0.52674929, 0.88340722, -0.14389948, 0.85723075, -0.27193337,
-1.62392745, 1.00179547, -0.53456754, -0.1381289 , 0.32301899,
-0.90361638, -1.03319164, 0.8584496 , -1.47448276, -1.39528868,
-0.63715174, 0.29869234, 0.44270045, -0.92199649, 1.05853092,
-0.02445317, -0.12868128, 0.52885401, 1.8909318 , 0.90287131,
1.284364 , -0.08951854, 0.77761604, -0.27268465, 0.82464474,
0.19805207, 1.25957484, -0.03232757, 1.08332586, -0.56617578,
0.05424107, -0.21702669, 0.54297404, -1.55229714, -3.40037476,
-0.36412127, -1.27776819, -1.88508363, 0.69261049, 0.79503463,
1.49262823, -0.59685356, 0.95254585, -1.20456255, -0.7753768 ,
1.9091864 , -0.75539544, 0.45743979, 1.48527013, 1.01771099,
-0.36607227, 0.00704966, 1.16703819, 0.8219478 , -1.12871576,
-1.44713619, -0.4547927 , -0.39195356, -0.7827503 , -0.3986085 ,
1.11149303, 1.44836935, 0.12766762, -0.94883314, 0.1802624 ,
0.83712718, 1.5077454 , -0.76929138, 0.36274145, 0.47086796,
-0.27351047, -0.81009948, -0.82348303, 1.04339551, -0.54340087,
-0.71608811, 1.30810891, -0.51056589, 0.45613281, -0.61290227,
0.58790022, 1.47241659, 1.7185846 , -1.05461664, 0.16908157,
0.59288033, 0.55928973, -1.04305812, 0.56017679, -1.2062302 ,
-0.90193199, 0.89157858, 1.69748227, -1.20174913, 1.49020802,
-0.61467375, -0.42063414, 0.90665987, 1.20533816, 1.07132981,
0.6365093 , -0.84098777, 0.6182845 , -0.27519097, -0.39420656,
1.16169109, 0.58940555, 1.0872276 , -0.29210526, 0.06531636,
0.29699429, -0.48434988, -0.07645545, 0.40779051, -0.13670244,
-1.05051871, -1.34366978, 0.35614509, 0.76706391, 0.79550408,
0.09043893, 2.0313036 , -1.76704674, -1.50855526, 1.03146735,
-0.62845911, -1.52246402, -0.08430522, -0.85495369, 0.9015557 ,
0.65746577, -1.43956086, 0.95173401, 0.39331314, 1.05351368,
-0.11704104, 0.54070703, -1.13058082, -1.46892611, 1.33434914,
-0.94006593, -1.56265535, -0.57374688, 0.46179756, 1.22270341,
-0.11840036, 1.64146156, -1.0830073 , 0.33026865, -0.54255066,
1.71584151, -0.93671821, 0.12367594, -1.18606485, -0.92092432,
-0.86176041, 0.76895933, -0.55705392, 1.88423762, 0.54522791,
-1.21461875, -1.49894922, -0.92082694, 1.24368024, 1.71859071,
-1.86053481, -0.18252227, -0.96489466, 0.37905162, -0.50170363,
-0.21354372, -1.83719068, 0.30092296, -1.51112236, -2.01598809]) |
From the orders @aaronreidsmith has shown above, the R results are more close to the correct values than the Python orders. |
It's because you have my_fit1 = pm.auto_arima(y=ts1,
start_p=1,
start_q=1,
max_p=3,
max_q=3,
seasonal=False,
d=None,
trace=True,
error_action='ignore',
suppress_warnings=True,
stepwise=True)
my_fit2 = pm.auto_arima(y=ts2,
start_p=1,
start_q=1,
max_p=3,
max_q=3,
seasonal=False,
d=None,
trace=True,
error_action='ignore',
suppress_warnings=True,
stepwise=True) Run the above and you'll get: >>> my_fit1.order
(1, 1, 0)
>>> my_fit2.order
(1, 2, 1) |
@tgsmith61591 ARIMA Python Residuals are not accurate and the problem I am also facing is that I am fitting a set of 57 row but the prediction size is 55 ? Noting That the dataset is a daily time series """Here is the code""""
def evaluate_models(resultsdf,index,dataset,datasetAS_DF):
|
@talaowis I don't even think you're using our package. It looks like you're fitting a stats models ARIMA directly. |
Hello @tgsmith61591 ,now I have switched to use your package put it is the same !! def evaluate_arima_model(X, arima_order,date):
def evaluate_models(resultsdf,index,dataset,datasetAS_DF):
|
Here is a sample of the produced results :
|
the data set I have posted as an example above is not the whole one , I have just taken a part to show you the results
|
You have differencing in your order (0, 1, 1). When you fit an ARIMA with differencing, you fit |
then the predicted value assumes no inverse difference ? |
When you produce in-sample predictions, the model predicts as many values as it was trained on. In this case, |
ok thank you |
I am comparing results of auto ARIMA with R (forecast package) and Python (pmdarima package). One of the issues I am getting is the length of the residuals in R and Python are different when d is not zero. For example, in the code shown below, in R, the length of the residuals is the same as the time series data but in python it is the length of the time series data minus d. Further, I also see significant changes in the order I get from R vs Python. What are the causes of the differences?
R
Python
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