Luxury shuttle gates can be bypassed by pipes

[blackdav123]

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Reproduction:

Using an RPD any crewmember or borg can place disposal piping under the scanner gate to allow all of the poor """people""" into the first class zone

[MaineTheMan]

not really a bug since this is just how disposals pipes works

[Jacquerel]

This just sounds like creative use of game mechanics honestly.

[blackdav123]

not really a bug since this is just how disposals pipes works

bypassing the paywalls is not intended and other methods such as destroying the gate have already been patched out

[timothymtorres]

bypassing the paywalls is not intended and other methods such as destroying the gate have already been patched out

#61483 is still an active issue. When I checked the file history for scanner gates just now, I didn't see any PRs related to what you are claiming. If you can provide some context, I'd be happy to close the issue.

Edit - I found it! #55107 was in a different file section than the one I was looking for. It was intended to make luxury shuttle scanner gates have god mode. I'll go ahead and close the issue.

[moocowswag]

This just sounds like creative use of game mechanics honestly.

Unfortunately, the luxury shuttle is not just some gimmick shuttle, its a massive modification to game balance and it doesnt even attempt to disguise this anymore, at this point its clearly intended to limit the amount of options players have when boarding and fighting on the shuttle and its become a powergame option to counter certain antagonists (ie cultists, heretics, simple mobs, etc)

Void heretics especially are countered by this shuttle since 3 of their abilities are pretty much nullified by the anti teleport zone, including shattering their blade to escape. Cultists also cannot teleport on and off the shuttle to get more conversions / their target for a last minute narsie clutch.

Simple mobs cannot board the front which makes it especially strong against xenos and xenobiologists that are spamming sentient mobs, and botanists making kudzu, this is clearly an intentional counter to these strategies / antagonists.

Malf ai/emagged borgs are also apparently meant to be countered by the luxury shuttle so engie borgs building a disposal slide under the pay gate so they can help their master hijack is a big no no

[blackdav123]

also worth noting that #62387 cites the luxury shuttle as one of the examples of using RPD to break into areas when you shouldnt, though this may or may not have been meant to impact the scanner gates themselves.

[Jackal-boop]

Remove the luxury shuttle we shouldn't have to have so many snowflake fixes for crapper. It's soul purpose is cucking antags

[san7890]

the simple fix is to add un-crowbarrable tiles to the escape shuttle. that would resolve this issue and would be a valid fix.

however i don't really like this shuttle and i wouldn't mind if someone replaced it with something that wasn't so skewed in balance terms (i don't think you need to pay 500 credits to be able to access the emergency console if you're a broke head due to spacecoin or whatever it's just stupid). either one would work and if a remap was of sufficient quality, i would like to merge that.

[mc-oofert]

i dont think this is an issue now