New Maps are Unable to be Played in the Lobby with 2.6

[beelee1]

This is project related. New Maps such as "1941 Global Command Decision" and ""UHD World War II Global" are currently unable to be played in the lobby. This is demoralizing to map makers not to have there work available to those that would otherwise never hear of it.

A&A .org recently helped with financial issues for triplea. They mostly PBF but will occasionally go to the lobby for big battles for a live setting. UHD Global 40 is gaining popularity there and they should be able to play on lobby if desired.

All new maps should be playable in the lobby. In the rare case a map is deemed inappropriate, it can be removed by mods alerting the necessary triplea power.

This will help grow and keep triplea engaging for old and new users alike.

[TheDog-GH]

I agree.

[Cernelius]

Wow! How is it possible that new maps cannot be played? This should certainly be a release blocker.

[DanVanAtta]

@beelee1 is this a problem because the bots do not have those new maps installed?
Could you please be far more specific & ultra-precise to the problem you are describing? (There are lots of problems in TripleA, I could easily latch onto one, spend 8 hours on it, to then realize it's not the thing you were talking about. I get maybe about 8 hours of dev time for TripleA in a month -that would be a loss of a month. It's important to convey EXACTLY what you are talking about, please be very specific)

[Cernelius]

Right. I also don't understand how it is that new maps cannot be played in the lobby. I've not made a new map myself since some time.

Maybe @TheDog-GH can clarify if he knows better?

[Cernelius]

@beelee1 Let's say that I make a completely new map from nothing and would like the community to be able to play it like whatever other map which is already available. What does it make that impossible?

[TheDog-GH]

I cannot clarify as never played in the Lobby.

But at a guess these two maps dont work
"1941 Global Command Decision" and "UHD World War II Global" are both new maps posted on GitHub Nov 2023

Both have been available for a month or so for download within 2.6 is all I can add.

Best wait for @beelee1 to answer.

[DanVanAtta]

Could you clarify what you mean by "don't work"? Is it impossible to select them? Is there an error when they are loaded? Is there an error shortly after game play has started?

[beelee1]

@DanVanAtta Yea, so download "1941 Global Command Decision" or "UHD World War II Global" in 2.6. Then go to lobby and take control of a bot.
Hit Select game. Both games don't showup as an option to select when the "Change game to" prompt shows up

Edit
is this a problem because the bots do not have those new maps installed?

Idk how bots work, but that sounds plausible. I have mentioned this multiple times for over a year. My time is also important :)

[Cernelius]

Ah, so you mean that the automated hosts have not been updated as to have those maps, but the maps themselves are playable with no problems in normal hosts? Is this a bots-only issue?

Is there somewhere any documentation about how automated hosts are updated? For example, if I make a new map, how much time should I be expected to wait on average before seeing it in automated hosts, and am I supposed to make a request somewhere to that effect or just to wait? Is it automated or is there a list of volunteers who operate the bots to such effect?

I've never cared myself about such issues because I just host and virtually never use bots, but I think it would be good having such matters documented somewhere as I can see it may be frustrating for other map-makers having to wait indefinitely in the hope to see their maps in the bots.

[beelee1]

@Cernelius yea that seems to be the problem the more I find out about bots. I've never hosted privately, so idk if the maps would be available then.

Anyway, UHD been out for a year now, so I would have thought it'd be playable by now

[DanVanAtta]

My time is also important :)

@beelee1, indeed. I did not intend to imply otherwise. Avoiding Q&A and defining "does not work" the first time saves everyone effort. That's all I was getting at.

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There is a script to update bots. It needs to be fixed up a bit to be back in a working state. I can give you some screenshots of how to run it @beelee1 . Because you have write-access, it would be a click of a few buttons for you to run whenever needed.

[beelee1]

@DanVanAtta no worries all good :)

Yes , if you show me how I will do. I also think the Dog and Roger should be able todo it.

I'm in the 4th qtr of life and will probably only be around for 2-3 years.

Be good to have ave a backup regardless :)

[TheDog-GH]

@DanVanAtta
Yes add me to the 'bot starter' admins

[Cernelius]

I think this should be taken off the "2.6 Release" project.