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WEBVTT
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Language: en
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[Music]
hello everyone hello hello my name is
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james i'm nick and welcome to the
padreon this is our
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fourth fifth sixth episode i have not
been counting neither have i and it's
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kind of my job
um
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probably the most consistent page uh
podcast we put out ever
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i think like this is like yeah fourth
consecutive weeks we've actually managed
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to pull this off yeah
wow
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we're like professional and stuff yeah
um
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i think the most we ever got before was
like
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three weeks and then we had a break and
it's like i'll get back to it next week
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yeah there was always a break but we're
doing this for
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our amazing patrons it's a job so we
will never take a break never take a
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break
um
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speaking of never taking a break today's
episode is about
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burnout
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um which
nick is going to get to avoid because
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he's taking two months off avoid honey i
already was burnt out like you saw what
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happened like the last
two days after we stopped shooting like
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i was a wreck
yeah um
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i'm even starting to feel it myself just
working on the new video
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it should be out this sunday i say
should
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um
but i'm not putting any guarantees on it
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um
but like i'm i'm even starting to feel
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it just like
because we've been putting out a lot of
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videos over the last couple of months
yeah from the beginning of the year like
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youtube started being a massive asshat
to us so yeah and because they were
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doing that we were like okay we need to
put out more videos
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so my experience is like i
i'm not trying to diminish what you do
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but like i work most consistently
because i do the writing which takes up
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a lot of time and it's kind of like a
marathon sort of stuff whereas
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you more so have like a
um a job yeah where it's like you know
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several hours a day etc whereas i kind
of come in you're a sprinter you kind of
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take the when yeah when we've assembled
the thing like from when we start
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editing the script when it's finished
when we start editing that's when you
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kind of take off and you start pulling
like 14 hour days
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um
yeah for like you and you do so it's
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like whereas i'm like a consistent level
of work
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uh throughout the month you're kind of
an excessive amount of work for a week
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yeah like an unhealthy amount of work
yeah and so like the way that this year
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has worked so far is like we put out the
banana fish
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video um and then yeah and then things
started to go wrong
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yeah we put out the banana fish video
and it got demonetized because there is
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indication of police violence some
[ __ ] because it's gay
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and then yeah according to youtube this
is what i got back from actual
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representatives of youtube sorry if you
hear any background noise there's people
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outside and it's it's relatively warm so
we have the door open uh the patio door
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um
that uh what they said was there are
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shots of police violence
or not of police violence there are
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shots of um
rioting
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in the opening credits yeah and that's
what demonetized the video and they
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wouldn't let me like black out the
opening credits they wouldn't like
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youtube used to do
yeah um they wouldn't let me do anything
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like that i couldn't just re-upload the
video because at the time it already had
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like a hundred thousand views and we
couldn't lose a hundred thousand views
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yeah because what the way that the
algorithm works is that you know like
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things
uh travel based on momentum if things
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are getting a lot of views in a short
amount of time uh then they'll get
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recommended to other people yeah if you
re-uploaded the video it would have lost
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those views
the people who already watched it
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wouldn't have watched it again yeah most
of you um
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uh people on patreon and in your
community would have because they're
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yeah even on mute while they did
something else uh but it would so that
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it would have lost on a couple
a few dozen
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thousand views
um which would not have been enough to
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kind of press it into other people
yeah and now it's it's
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i think it's the most viewed video this
year yeah
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which kind of stings because we because
we put a lot of work because we got no
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money from it yeah um but then youtube
came out and said okay well we're going
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to we we're actually going to let you
monetize the gay panic video at first
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you were like no i'm not going to do
them i was like don't do that that's a
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trap and you're like yeah i'm not going
to do it but then they kept pushing you
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and so like i i a lot of patrons will
remember this i asked like ken and would
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you be okay if i made it public because
you know was going to be just a patron
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exclusive video and the overwhelming
response was yes yeah and so i made it
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public and then within a week it was
demonetized and rated 18 plus yeah which
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which getting a team plus rating on your
channel is not just a matter of like oh
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it gets demonetized it's a black mark
uh you can only do that so many times
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before youtube will actively shut down
your channel no
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no they won't shut down their channel i
thought it was no that's that's that's
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that's a whole other thing okay um 18
plus is like you can upload as many 18
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plus videos as you want they're not
going to get rid of your channel yeah
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and they gave it the 18 plus rating for
the most asinine reason ever there is a
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shot late in the video
um
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when we're covering the gwen
gwen
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section
uh in the background
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out of focus there is a crime scene
photograph yeah
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and that is why they rated it 18 plus
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how do like straight people make money
off of their true crime there are so
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many true crime documentary channels on
youtube and so like
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oh yeah i forgot to mention that in the
banana fish video there is a shot from
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pose with a dead sex worker
yeah but that's not what really you you
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would have thought no it would and and
it was specifically
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the violence
the the burning car in the opening
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cruise
all right which is funny because the
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alternate titles for the patron version
were just shots from banana fish but
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that was demonetized because it was
using uh a fleetwood mac song yeah
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you just can't win um
yeah but so
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so then we put out a bunch of videos so
then so then what immediately happened
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and this is what happened is like you
know like um it's like
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we had to react to that yeah and so like
you're like okay nick time to hunker
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down and write this write another video
and i was like
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[ __ ] so i kind of
over two weeks worked my ass off to kind
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of write something that we could use
what came out after that was that the
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shipping video
i can't remember exactly i think it was
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the shipping video that came out after
that
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which is what spearheaded the telos
funding which was amazing and fantastic
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but there was something about that that
kind of messed up and it was like and
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and for like well yeah
it's what happened with the shipping
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video was that uh it did really really
well it was doing really well it was the
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most viewed
um
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video on the channel for the first
little bit
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um
and then it hit a wall
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and
like
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there's no official
statement of what happened but it seems
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like there was a lot of people who were
not happy
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that i
um
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compared adam to be a child uh child
predator well that but there were a
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bunch of things like saying that
you know kind of arguing that there's
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more
um lesbian content out there than there
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is gay content especially in like
children's media
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while at the same time making the
concession that a lot of it is done
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specifically for straight men i think
kids media i'm not in kids but you know
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like the you know like um the more overt
lesbian representation uh in like adult
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media is made
for the intention of attracting straight
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attracting straight men to that yeah
that it's this for the straight the
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straight men not for actual lesbians but
um and even though a lot of people did
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not like that and so they downvoted the
video and so the video stopped being
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recommended yeah um which kind of put a
hamper on the channel because the next
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two videos that came out were the disney
video and the wanda video
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neither of them did very well at all
wanda has since picked up yeah since
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doctor strange came out because people
are angry and they click on things when
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they're angry um
and so the wanda video is doing well now
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but it was just like
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basically for the first
four months
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of 2022 it was constant reactionary like
this is like we need to get this done we
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need to get this done this is until
finally
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i put out the the the the video asking
for patrons
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um and that was a huge success so this
is what my look life looked like it's
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like okay so we react reacted to
the um banana fish banana fish video by
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making the other video public and then
we reacted to that getting demonetized
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by rushing through the shipping shipping
video which you know led to some
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problems with other stuff like the um
uh sort of a lack of down votes yeah and
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also um
uh
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sort of misgendering casey
uh casey with questions jason and sort
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of like
setting not doing our due diligence to
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sort of uh and this is on me mostly to
sort of set up that a concession
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about that it's a and reinforce the idea
that it's okay for straight women to
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write gay characters but just pointing
out that there is a
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you know difference yeah there's a
difference and so that didn't really
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come across as much as i would have
wanted it to because we were rushing
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because we were reacting so for about
four months my life was
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um
kind of thinking okay
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after the next video i'm going to get a
break um
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i'm going to get two weeks to just kind
of
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chill out and breathe for half a second
and then
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consistently after we put out the video
it just tanked and so i didn't get a
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break and so like i even though i would
condition myself to be like okay i'm
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gonna get to relax i'm gonna get to
breathe for a second it was like i can't
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start writing on the next thing
immediately and i got i worked myself
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into
such a mental health spiral i don't know
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if you um if that came across to you oh
no not at all
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but yeah i was i was not that was
sarcasm by the way yeah
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i was not in a good place um
i have not been in a good place i'm kind
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of working unworking myself out because
there's there's a difference between i
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think
working a lot and being very busy
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and i like to be very bad and seeing the
results and working a lot being very
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busy and seeing people
actively ignore your work yeah uh which
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i think was really
weighing heavy on you that you were you
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were doing a lot of work that wasn't
paying and especially because like i i
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had just put out i had just really
gentlemen's club evelyn i picked one
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um
uh in october yeah and so like uh we
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were taking some time and immediately
after that i was like okay we gotta
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focus on some videos because you know we
had the we you need to do the november
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video which what what was what what's
that again
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i think that was the china video yeah uh
which was actually relatively quick
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right i think uh yeah because like when
i write a video when a video is written
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majority by me
it's written very quickly because if i
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am able to write the majority of the
video myself it's because i'm angry yeah
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and
it's topical i can just like
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punch it out very quickly and that's
that's what the china video was that was
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the rowling video where it's like the
livelihood and that's what a lot of the
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the pocket gay videos are yeah i think
the china video worked really well for
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that reason because you had like this
burst of information about like china
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how the film industry works and i kind
of took that and i analyzed and
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basically made the anti-fascist video
that my friends have been sort of
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reinforcing me about that i'm not just a
hacktivist
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so like we had um december off for
reasons which was a very stressful
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reason
um did we have december i think we
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released a video on december we put out
a video but that was i think a shorter
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one or maybe we didn't because that was
when we had the stuff going on
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i think we really the another thing to
no you released the um
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uh
you made the uh panic defense for
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patrons in december yeah the queer panic
video went out in december um and then
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something else to remember
is the
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night that the banana fish video went
live was the night my mom died yeah
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uh so all of december a lot of december
that wasn't december it was i know but a
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lot of december was making preparations
for that yeah and kind of like with that
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so like
so like 2022 youtube had been being a
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dick my mom passed away
uh fighting with insurance companies
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just like constant hell yeah and