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created_utc,score,domain,id,title,ups,downs,num_comments,permalink,selftext,link_flair_text,over_18,thumbnail,subreddit_id,edited,link_flair_css_class,author_flair_css_class,is_self,name,url,distinguished
1361477416.0,240,i.imgur.com,18z250,The beautiful manuscript of Doors of Stone (from r/fantasy),271,31,71,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/18z250/the_beautiful_manuscript_of_doors_of_stone_from/,,,False,http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.com/N0p49Hr51KOU98Zk.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_18z250,http://i.imgur.com/FOPEOYS.jpg,
1374176421.0,214,tor.com,1ikwl2,The Name of the Wind Coming to Television,240,26,153,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1ikwl2/the_name_of_the_wind_coming_to_television/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/DtJu4L-4zHqcKJgO.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,talentpipes,False,t3_1ikwl2,http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/07/patrick-rothfuss-name-of-the-wind-television-show,
1365608656.0,216,i.imgur.com,1c2h6r,Some girl just asked where Commonwealth was.,243,27,28,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1c2h6r/some_girl_just_asked_where_commonwealth_was/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/ufAXuf82aYA2kp91.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1c2h6r,http://i.imgur.com/wEriAxR.jpg,
1368675124.0,182,i.imgur.com,1efhje,"This was under Name of the Wind at my local bookstore, thought you'd appreciate it!",194,12,28,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1efhje/this_was_under_name_of_the_wind_at_my_local/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/Bb6-pEj4MoGNFYoN.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1efhje,http://i.imgur.com/kc15ior.jpg,
1360858476.0,155,i.imgur.com,18iqk0,Picture Rothfuss just posted on Facebook,175,20,29,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/18iqk0/picture_rothfuss_just_posted_on_facebook/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/evnhX_RiYCHz7o-g.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,edema-ruh,False,t3_18iqk0,http://i.imgur.com/96aqTLf.jpg,
1376241088.0,143,i.imgur.com,1k5h9i,"Finally got my talent pipes. Suck on that jackass, jackass.",175,32,16,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1k5h9i/finally_got_my_talent_pipes_suck_on_that_jackass/,,,False,http://d.thumbs.redditmedia.com/xrHsaYl8kPdi7VPi.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1k5h9i,http://i.imgur.com/9tptjn2.jpg,
1355227400.0,132,quickmeme.com,14nth3,"Somehow I missed this meme ""Advice Kvothe"" :D",159,27,8,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/14nth3/somehow_i_missed_this_meme_advice_kvothe_d/,,,False,http://e.thumbs.redditmedia.com/1FjHly5h-fYH0WPd.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,amyr,False,t3_14nth3,http://www.quickmeme.com/Advice-Kvothe/popular/1/?upcoming,
1360247700.0,128,i.imgur.com,182ddv,Pat's teaser posted - SPECULATE AWAY!,141,13,64,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/182ddv/pats_teaser_posted_speculate_away/,,,False,http://d.thumbs.redditmedia.com/8msqpqPTJxpquvt3.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,edema-ruh,False,t3_182ddv,http://i.imgur.com/bzw1ScI.jpg,
1374717670.0,125,i.imgur.com,1izzze,"The man, the myth.",140,15,7,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1izzze/the_man_the_myth/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/GuSwUTa0z5c0H-sf.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1izzze,http://i.imgur.com/s8HpxG6.jpg,
1361917698.0,120,kingkiller-fans.deviantart.com,19abzx,Is this how y'all imagined Kvothe's Shelter in Tarbean? (by ~Harmal on deviantART),134,14,13,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/19abzx/is_this_how_yall_imagined_kvothes_shelter_in/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/-1Y7J3P6q9TxYqHH.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,cthaeh,False,t3_19abzx,http://kingkiller-fans.deviantart.com/art/Kvothe-in-Tarbean-147726324,
1376622334.0,118,i.imgur.com,1kgqjq,Thanks a lot Rothfuss...,146,28,33,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1kgqjq/thanks_a_lot_rothfuss/,,,False,http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.com/1ERY3GlXpO2V0V7S.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1kgqjq,http://i.imgur.com/TKknRrH.png,
1359523360.0,101,i.imgur.com,17jnxh,Reminded me of the Cthaeh,118,17,5,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/17jnxh/reminded_me_of_the_cthaeh/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/GYbNIkq-9l1kOE-y.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_17jnxh,http://i.imgur.com/ZA3ccmn.jpg,
1363138897.0,97,self.KingkillerChronicle,1a6rw4,My latest theory- Kvothe is a Chandrian,109,12,53,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1a6rw4/my_latest_theory_kvothe_is_a_chandrian/,"Or whatever the Chandrian are.
When the Chronicler is trying to break down Kvothe's resistance, one of the charges he makes is that 'Some people say there is a new Chandrian, with hair as red as the blood he spills'. Kvothe doesn't respond with anger, or incredulity, but an almost weary acceptance- the important people know the difference.
When the skindancer at the end is looking for Kvothe, it asks him 'Te Rhintae'; obviously too close to the Adem 'Rhinte' term for whatever the Chandrian are to be chance.
But the roots of this madness aren't in particulars which are meant to draw the eye; they're deeper. They're in silence that clings to a man. A silence that belongs to him, like a sign presaging him. The silence of a man who is waiting to die- who should have died *twice* when fighting the scrael. The cut flower sound of a man waiting to die, and could be waiting for a long, long time.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1a6rw4,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1a6rw4/my_latest_theory_kvothe_is_a_chandrian/,
1364423558.0,92,kickstarter.com,1b51er,How would you like a game co-written by Pat Rothfuss?,107,15,11,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1b51er/how_would_you_like_a_game_cowritten_by_pat/,,,False,http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.com/x0IeDjGpsxfY0hY_.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1b51er,http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-numenera,
1373398631.0,96,behance.vo.llnwd.net,1hye4q,Alternative cover art by Marc Simonetti,103,7,11,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1hye4q/alternative_cover_art_by_marc_simonetti/,,,False,http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.com/Szskz3JMIjM-F3Yq.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,cthaeh,False,t3_1hye4q,http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles18/2520561/projects/8104731/hd_a866694d7c401bce12167117dff82d5a.jpg,
1370134579.0,92,i.imgur.com,1fhsx2,This is the best Kvothe fanart I've ever seen.,111,19,17,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1fhsx2/this_is_the_best_kvothe_fanart_ive_ever_seen/,,,False,http://e.thumbs.redditmedia.com/bUR1G1iAhqxWU1xp.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,amyr,False,t3_1fhsx2,http://i.imgur.com/xQoInKc.jpg,
1357276745.0,89,reddit.com,15xo2j,"Patrick Rothfuss is doing an AMA at r/Fantasy this Wednesday, Jan 9th",99,10,8,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/15xo2j/patrick_rothfuss_is_doing_an_ama_at_rfantasy_this/,,,False,default,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_15xo2j,http://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/15xgrt/patrick_rothfuss_ama_next_wednesday_jan_9th_and/,
1371142249.0,91,imgur.com,1ga03t,I bought my boyfriend a Kvothe doll and we took him on vacation with us!,109,18,5,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1ga03t/i_bought_my_boyfriend_a_kvothe_doll_and_we_took/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/x_v0s8GWevAMJpag.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1ga03t,http://imgur.com/a/TCOWl,
1360976289.0,89,imgur.com,18m32h,I finally got my lute.,99,10,18,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/18m32h/i_finally_got_my_lute/,,,False,http://c.thumbs.redditmedia.com/HL6HpGywm-m0VYEz.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_18m32h,http://imgur.com/a/eNpFe,
1355776985.0,87,imgur.com,150f1o,"This is my treasure, with a very special message written by Pat himself!",98,11,8,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/150f1o/this_is_my_treasure_with_a_very_special_message/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/yVUvXyuWaJSLKFix.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_150f1o,http://imgur.com/a/U1U9s,
1360705544.0,86,i.imgur.com,18eh9r,Kvothe calling lightning down,98,12,18,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/18eh9r/kvothe_calling_lightning_down/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/_Jf68d-FBFlTayZm.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_18eh9r,http://i.imgur.com/dgFIcd9.jpg,
1356631873.0,78,io9.com,15j0zq,"""10 Things Kvothe Absolutely Needs to Do in Day 3 of Patrick Rothfuss’ Kingkiller Chronicles Books"" What do you guys think? Anything else?",87,9,40,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/15j0zq/10_things_kvothe_absolutely_needs_to_do_in_day_3/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/PHCV2IRhtlUJ5rnZ.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,blue-flame,False,t3_15j0zq,http://io9.com/5971523/10-things-kvothe-absolutely-needs-to-do-in-day-3-of-patrick-rothfuss-kingkiller-chronicles-books?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_twitter&utm_source=io9_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow,
1375317660.0,78,i.imgur.com,1jglmm,plot summary,107,29,10,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1jglmm/plot_summary/,,,False,http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.com/-srKEu2sNJehYgGM.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1jglmm,http://i.imgur.com/54gghFx.png,
1339178232.0,81,goodreads.com,urw5t,Found this gem while looking up the release date for the final Kingkiller book. (xpost from /r/books),82,1,4,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/urw5t/found_this_gem_while_looking_up_the_release_date/,,,False,http://c.thumbs.redditmedia.com/83ciSvQDOH9QBcxP.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_urw5t,http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/327213074,
1367698650.0,77,imgur.com,1dp14e,A Sign of The Chandrian,108,31,6,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1dp14e/a_sign_of_the_chandrian/,,,False,http://e.thumbs.redditmedia.com/czwVaY_aGvgRPlaj.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,blue-flame,False,t3_1dp14e,http://imgur.com/PVhf7kU,
1340902156.0,77,i.imgur.com,vqy79,How I imagine an Edema Ruh camp looks like,86,9,6,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/vqy79/how_i_imagine_an_edema_ruh_camp_looks_like/,,,False,http://d.thumbs.redditmedia.com/d8squDqQpq21YzGK.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_vqy79,http://i.imgur.com/AuUkMh.jpg,
1340383622.0,75,i.imgur.com,vfxei,Cthaeh,82,7,19,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/vfxei/cthaeh/,,,False,http://d.thumbs.redditmedia.com/SVGA_h_6l_QHJsko.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,False,t3_vfxei,http://i.imgur.com/bRdTg.jpg,
1368161192.0,75,self.KingkillerChronicle,1e1vd1,Met Patrick tonight,81,6,33,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1e1vd1/met_patrick_tonight/,"Some questions:
*What would you want to happen if you died before book three?*
He said he wasn't sure if he would want anyone to write his books if he died. He finally said if he could get a committee made up of Peter S. Beagle, George R. R. Martin and Neil Gaiman to write it, he'd be OK.
*Is a day longer than 24 hours in your world?*
Well, a day can be perceived as being longer or shorter based upon one's perspective, but that doesn't really mean it is. Or does it? Maybe it does, good question.
*Tinkers seem to be very important in your world. Is there anything about them we don't know?*
If you notice, any map shows a Tinker on it. A Tinker is a sign of civilization, no Tinker, no civilization. No civilization, no map. Tinkers are... special. That's all I'll say.
*Why do addicts of denner resin have white, shiny teeth?*
When I was making my world, I realized every culture has had some way to escape reality, and a lot of them were bad. And my world needed something like that to make it more real. The white teeth? I just made that shit up.
*If E'lir means ""seer"" and Re'lar means ""speaker"", what language is it and what does El'the mean?*
Hmm. Good question. Next?
*How many times were you rejected by publishers before you were finally published?*
Dozens. A rejection is a sign you're trying. Celebrate your rejections. You've made it farther that most people.
(This one was my favorite).
Some things he spoke about:
Kilvin, and all the Cealdish, (pronounced Cheldish) are black, including Wilem.
Four Corners isn't the name of the world, its just what it is called on the map. He asked us if we wanted to know the real name. We all said, ""Yeah!"" and he fudged and wouldn't tell us.
It took him fourteen years from inception to publication.
Someone asked him why he writes fantasy. I won't go into all of it (it was a long answer), but he ended by saying all of ""us"" (fantasy geeks) were thinkers and generally smart people. He still identifies with us nerds. You can tell he doesn't think to highly of himself and is thankful he is just a nerd that done good.
He was a great guy, very generous and down-to-Earth. Said he would stay as late as the last person there. He posed for pics any way you wanted (within reason I guess) and would pretty much sign any way you asked. He spent time with each person in line and suggested humorous ways to take the pictures, (""Let's everyone do crazy eyes!"").
All in all, a great night and a wonderful guy.
-",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,amyr,True,t3_1e1vd1,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1e1vd1/met_patrick_tonight/,
1372595152.0,69,imgur.com,1hd1c1,Ran in to this wonderful man a few weeks ago.,89,20,4,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1hd1c1/ran_in_to_this_wonderful_man_a_few_weeks_ago/,,,False,default,t5_2smxb,False,,amyr,False,t3_1hd1c1,http://imgur.com/a/o6wDI,
1370646328.0,73,self.KingkillerChronicle,1fw7y1,My Kingkiller Theory - The beautiful game (Spoiler),88,15,49,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1fw7y1/my_kingkiller_theory_the_beautiful_game_spoiler/,"Hi everybody I'm new here and want to share my thoughts and theories with you.
First off, I'm sorry for my poor english because its not my first language (I'm german). This link will contain spoilers!
I have read and heard both books a dozend times. I was researching almost daily new theories of you guys and think I have read almost all of them all. I'm really hooked on these stuff. I don't think that Patrick Rothfuss has giving us already the key to unravel the story yet, but I try to give some new thoughts to your amazing theories.
First off I want to call some irrefutable facts which everybody needs to know.
A: Kvothe is the son of Nethalia Lackless:
Ok you remember the end of the rhyme of Arliden about his wife. - not tally a lot less - Nethlia Lackless.
I didn't have the option to unravel this, because I've read the story in german. But I think this have to be evidence enough. I've first read about this theory in Joe Waltons ""Under the wagon thread"". Credits to her at this time.
B: Cinder is denfintly Master Ash. Maybe Bredon is Cinder too because of some 'Glamour-magic', but Cinder is Ash. When Kvothe is looking for a name for Dennas Patron he uses his naming-skills:
""Frederick the Flippant. Frank. Feran. Forue. Fordale."" Feran - Fe/ Forue - ru/ Fordale - le - Ferule.
This have to be evidence enough.
Here are my thoughts:
1. Cinder: Cinder is alive! Kvothe is very carefully telling us the story. Carefully in consideration of telling us true Names. He told us Cinders true name once. The first time when Haliax named Cinder, it was ""Ferula"".
But when the Adem gives him the true names of the Seven, it was ""Ferule, chill and dark of eye"". Which I think is the true name(see
above - Feran, Forue, Fordale). We know that it is dangerous to call these names numerous times, because the
person you name, can hear you and even know where you at. Thats the reason why he changed this name. The same thing with ""Cyphus- bears
the blue flame."" But in the story with Tarborlin told from Marten, it was ""Scyphus-the Soccerer-king"". I think this is an
evidence that he's alive too.
2. The Silence: I think Kvothe already killed one of the Seven and therefore became one of the Seven. In the discussion between Arliden and Ben about the Chandrian, they call their signs and one of them was a 'non-natural Silence' (Maybe from 'Grey Dalcenti, never speaks'). And this is probably the one Kvothe killed because now the ""Silence"" belongs to Kvothe. The Chandrian are always seven. And when Kvothe killed one of them, he maybe is cursed to be one of them, to stuff the hole he made.
3. The thrice-locked-chest: I think the man who is waiting to die, is a ""man""(Chandrian) in the thrice locked box(maybe Cinder). Remember when Bast knocked at the box and then Kvothe asked him ""what would you do if your knocking get a respond(or an anwser)?"" The Box is constructed with iron and copper. Maybe the copper is to hold the Rhinta and the iron to let him feel a constant pain.
Remember the heavy weight of the box. They say the Chandrian can't die but maybe there is a way (copper?), maybe Kvothe will sacrifice himself like Telhu with Encanis. I think the one in the box is a decoy bird, which leads me to:
4. The beautiful game: Kvothe is setting a trap. A trap for the Seven. The sword Folly, can't rust because its
not iron( maybe copper). It cannot fall down from the wall because of the Ruah wood. The Ruah
wood cannot decay. Then there is something with these brass bound barrels. Brass is something
of a copper alloy. Maybe he will stick them in there. But I think there was only three barrels,
not seven or six. Hmm? But these things are all prepared for an Chandrian attack(rotting wood, rusting iron, brittling bricks etc.) I think he have chosen the place and the time well, exactly like with those Scraels.
He have chosen a village where almost only old people live. People who have lived there lives, excepting one - the 'Smiths-apprentice'. And that was the one he wanted to save.(and at one time he tried to warn Graham too, that he should be ready to defend himself) He knows everybody in this
village (Newarre-Nowhere) will die. That is not the way of Bushido, sorry i mean Lethani, but
it is for the greater good. But he wanted to save the apprentice and that was Lethani. And this
whole trap - isnt both of it. It is the ""beautiful game"". A trap in a trap etc.
5. Alchemie: Kvothe has lost all magic skills excepting one. There is one magic you dont need body or mental
skills. Alchemie - there for you need knowledge. Alchemie is the form of magic which bored Kvothe
and he didn't learn in his story so far. But we know that he is Alchemie-skilled in the real time.
He knows the Cellum Tinkture etc. He wants Bast to learn Alchemie. I think Alchemie is a big key weapon in fighting the Seven.
Some Alchemie: Cyphus is related to copper. Cyprus. Cyprus is the Island where Copper came from. Coppers(Cuprum) liguistic origin came from the word Cyprus.
Cinder is related to mercury. Remeber he moves like mercury. Originally the word mercury meant ""living silver"".
Stercus is in thrall of iron.
I've read a great theorie about the seven alchemie Symbols of the ancient time:
lead, tin, silver, mercury, iron, copper and finally gold,
I think everyone of the Seven is related to one and is bound with them,like Stercus with
iron and Cyphus with copper.And I think they can be used against them.
Aurum for example means gold in latin. I think Auri is a key to this puzzle too.
The blue fire(or flame): Ok, Cyphus bears the blue flame and Cyphus could be related to copper. But why flames are turning blue in his presence? Laurian told Abenthy that a blue flame can be caused by natural gas, which is true. I googled a bit about the phenomen blue flame, and the easiest method to produce blue fire is to use copper chloride. Just spread copper chlorid over a campfire(or hearthfire) and the flames will turn blue. (When you burn copper sulphat you will get a blue-green flame). Another important attribute of copper chloride is that it will chorode most metals. Iron corrosion can be precipitated by copper chlorid. Remember that one sign of the Chandrian is rusting iron. This doesn't fit the theorie that every Chandrian is related to one sign, and Stercus seemed related to iron. It's just a thought. Maybe Cyphus or Stercus abstract copper chlorid somehow? Ok, that sounds weird, but in my head it had made more sense. I have read that Patrick Rothfuss studied chemical engineer. I think that Chemie and Alchmie will be very significant in 'Day 3.'
Kvothes weapons against the Chandrian:
(We know that demons fear pure Fire, Iron and mirrorglass(and the holy name of god, of course))
- Alchemie
- Key
- Coin
- Candle
- Folly(copper, or magic iron?)
- the Waystone Inn itself:
Tarborlin was in a prison of stone and he only had a coin, a candle and a key. Kvothe is in a big stone-house(maybe waystones) and had these weapons too.
Maybe the Waystone Inn is made of big waystones. The Chandrian don't appear near waystones.
Why? We know that waystones standing on safe places. Maybe the Waystones handicap the Chandrian in some way? The VALARITAS-Door is a big waystone too. Kvothe told us about an place called Faeriniel(when he told Sim and Wil the story about Sceop).
He said that this is a place you cannot find when you looking for it. You only can find it when you travel to another place.
I think the Waystone Inn is on this place(Newarre). There often appear travellers like at the
beginning of TNOTW, or the possesed soldier, or the Chronicler, or the two soldier at the end of TWMF, etc.
The Waystone Inn attract them like a lodestone. We know that waystones attract people. They draw them somehow magnetic. Maybe waystones don't brickle by an Chandrian attack.
I think the Chronicler is more then he seems. There is something important about him. Yes i know he's a Lochees (Lackless). Maybe at the end oft the story he will be the hero of the KKC. Kvothe tells him the story for a reason. It is not in Kvothes nature to tell his story just to demystify himself for the afterworld. I think he is part of Kvothes game. The story he tells is a part of his game. He is luring them with his story.
So what about Bastas? Hmm. Maybe he is not so sympathetic to Kvothe as he claims to be. But Kvothe is too clever and too much of an actor. He is acting infront of Bast and he plays him like a lute. I think Bast is Felrurians child and want something from Kvothe. He want something from Kvothe, not from Kote and thats why he wants his old Reshi back.
By the way, there are some thoughts I can't really back up but i will list them anyway:
The Symphathie-Crime against Kvothe don't come from Ambrose. I don't think so. Maybe someone else attacked him with his blood. The same thing with these two assassins. Maybe Ambrose don't send them. Someone has his hidden hand on Kvothe since the beginning of the story. Why did Scarpi know his name. Why did Lorren know Arliden. Why did Denna say it's her job to know things about kvothe. Why did Denna appear everywhere Kvothe goes? Why did Threpe flatter on Kvothe? Why did Bredon flatter on Kvothe? Why did sometimes stranges people appear in the story(for example before his ship-journey or when he left Vintas and wanted to throw Meluans ring away). I think Kvothe is watched and controlled by a gray eminence.
The Univesity is not what it seems to be. It is not a place where some teachers are really excited for to teach you powerfull names, so you can get happy with them. Elodin said Kvothe doesnt know to what he commits himself. He said the University is not a big playground. I think the University is a big watchtower for the VALARITAS-Door. The masters are teaching them these names for some reason. Why is Elodin so enthusiatic to teach Kvothe the name of the wind? I hope you can help me with this thoughts.
Another thing i noticed is that Puppet is allowed to have candles in his room in the library. Maybe Lorren was not flipping because he was in fear that the books catch fire, but rather cause the four-plate-door can be affected by fire somehow. Maybe there is something alchemistic with this door too. Remember the four Elements of Alchemie: Fire, Water, Air and Earth.
Well, I'm sorry for the long post and my bad english(and my terrible grammar), I'm trying to improve it. I hope you can give me some feedback on my theories. ",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1373046396.0,,,True,t3_1fw7y1,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1fw7y1/my_kingkiller_theory_the_beautiful_game_spoiler/,
1339437087.0,70,i.imgur.com,uwgaq,"Name of the Wind tattoo: ""stronger stuff""",85,15,22,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/uwgaq/name_of_the_wind_tattoo_stronger_stuff/,,,True,nsfw,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,False,t3_uwgaq,http://i.imgur.com/pxBrB.jpg,
1356984853.0,65,i.imgur.com,15qm6u,A late present from my brother and my favorite from the season :),74,9,23,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/15qm6u/a_late_present_from_my_brother_and_my_favorite/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/p-1YLRwBX2529pTH.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,cthaeh,False,t3_15qm6u,http://i.imgur.com/gGR7a.jpg,
1351188465.0,69,self.KingkillerChronicle,122sl1,"True facts (also, everything I am about to say is a massive spoiler)",78,9,12,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/122sl1/true_facts_also_everything_i_am_about_to_say_is_a/,"I wanted to put a link, but I also wanted to summarise the link and I apparently can't have both a link and text so I am going with text and you will have to copy and paste my link.
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48507-the-wise-mans-fear-iii-spoilers-and-speculation-within/page__st__20
This is a link into the third thread out of seven consecutive such threads on the Song of Ice and Fire forums about Wise Man's Fear. I was reading some of the posts and they had a lot of ideas in that I haven't seen around Reddit, so I thought I'd bring a few of my favourite ones over. I apologise if anything I say has already been discussed since I can't actually recall what I've seen where, but I am certain that some parts haven't so it should be good :)
Currently my favourite theory (that in fairness is less theory and more obvious once you can see it) is that Denna has been casting magic for all of the second book. Near the beginning of the book she asks Kvothe's friends how magic works. Specifically she asks about a kind of magic where you write things down and they become true for whoever reads them. She also specified that the things would come true even if the reader didn't understand what he was reading. During the conversation she was drawing symbols on the table with her hand and Kvothe's friends dismissed the idea out of hand without asking questions. Denna seems unperturbed by this and more thoughtful.
Later in the book Denna travels to Yll, learns about Yllish story knots and spends the rest of the book tying them into her hair. They are mentioned often, but there are a few significant instances. In the first, Kvothe reads her hair as saying 'lovely' to which Denna appears ""incredulous and slightly horrified"". She quickly takes the knot out her hair and asks Kvothe what he thinks now. He says he liked it better before and she responds that that is the point. She also insists that it is a damn sight more than ""Almost a story knot"" and explains that they are meant to be read by feeling rather than by looking.
The next incident is brief but probably significant. Denna and Kvothe are taking shelter in a hayloft when Kvothe promises not to try to seduce her. She says something to the effect of ""Oh really?"" and begins to tie a knot in her hair, but apparently thinks better of it.
Finally, when they are in the stream at the end of the second book, Kvothe says to her ""love me"" to which Denna responds by stiffening up and tying a knot in her hair that Kvothe reads as ""Don't speak to me"". He bites back what he is about to say, claiming that he is not so thick as to not take such an obvious sign, but as soon as she realises what she has done she removes the knot again and Kvothe immediately speaks to her to give her ring back.
All of this considered, it seems tremendously likely to me that Denna has found a form of magic whereby she can write something down and the person reading it changes according to it regardless of whether they understand it. I think it is also probably important that Denna says the knots are meant to be read by feeling rather than by looking. This might mean that looking doesn't ordinarily count as reading them, so she is braiding them into her hair to affect someone who is in the habit of touching her hair.
The final point to be made about this theory is that Herme falls ill shortly after he promises to teach Kvothe Yllish. This could be a sign that someone doesn't want Kvothe to understand Denna's knots, perhaps so she can manipulate him more easily, so they have poisoned Herme.
The other significant discussion that I don't think has been mentioned here before is the discussion about Selitos. The evidence for anything about him is much less concrete, but the general consensus is that he is not necessarily the good guy that Skarpi made him out to be. One of the most popular opinions is that he could be the Cthaeh somehow. This is backed up from the fact that in Skarpi's story he is meant to lose an eye but gain better sight. He loses an eye, but the better sight is never clarified - it could be the sight of the future that the Cthaeh has. It has also been noted that based on the smell of the wood of the lackless box, it was probably made out of wood from the Rhinna tree where the Cthaeh resides. This fits in nicely because it is quite possible that the box contains the piece of obsidian that Selitos took his eye out with. He uses the blood on the Obsidian to curse Lanre so it could be hidden away to make sure Lanre can't acquire it and break his curse. If Selitos did turn out to be evil then it could be that he was the one who poisoned the seven Chandrian into becoming evil but, as in Denna's song, Lanre saw through his plan and marched on his cities. This would explain why the seventh city didn't burn, since it was Lanre's city. The ""Evil Selitos"" Theory is backed up by the girl with the charm telling Kvothe that when she saw the Chandrian with an Amyr, the Amyr was the scariest of all of them.
The box also raises a few other interesting subjects. One of the childrens' rhymes contains the line ""lackless keeps her husband's rocks"". Kvothe seems to think that the box only contains one item, but a piece of obsidian would qualify as someone's rock. This raises the question of who the original lady lackless was. My favourite suggestion is Lyra, but that would need ironing out since she is supposed to be dead when Selitos takes his eye out. Kvothe also notices engravings on the box, so it could be that it is locked with an Yllish knot.
I feel I have given way to rambling a bit - I am not good at organising my ideas. As a result, I will leave on a brief, well organised note. At some point in the second book Kvothe says """"I swear I won’t attempt to uncover your patron,"" I said bitterly. ""I swear it on my name and my power. I swear it by my good left hand. I swear it by the ever-moving moon."" "" Kvothe appears to have a significant latent talent for naming. As a result, he could also have some talent for shaping. One of the most popular theories everywhere is that Kvothe eventually kills Cinder. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that Cinder is Master Ash, and if he were then Kvothe would need to hunt him down to kill him. In the interludes at the Waystone Inn Kvothe appears to have lost his power and there are a number of scenes where his left hand is specifically mentioned as not working properly. Bast worries that he has lost who he is, which could be explained by him somehow losing his name, so this oath to Denna could be at least part of the reason for how he ended up as weak as he is in the present day.
That's all for now folks! As I say, I don't know how much of it is new ideas to reddit, but hopefully something in there can keep you entertained. I haven't finished reading the forums yet and they are quite interesting so I will probably come by again when I have picked up some more ideas :)",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_122sl1,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/122sl1/true_facts_also_everything_i_am_about_to_say_is_a/,
1345316889.0,66,imgur.com,yft0k,My buddies and I met Pat Rothfuss today at Gen-Con. :-),79,13,13,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/yft0k/my_buddies_and_i_met_pat_rothfuss_today_at_gencon/,,,False,http://c.thumbs.redditmedia.com/mRSYpnJXYEtGxKkP.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,edema-ruh,False,t3_yft0k,http://imgur.com/0R1My,
1349458074.0,66,cwsaton.deviantart.com,11026j,A drawing of Felurian,75,9,26,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/11026j/a_drawing_of_felurian/,,,False,http://d.thumbs.redditmedia.com/Czr1ZDIpcmUQ4aKW.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,talentpipes,False,t3_11026j,http://cwsaton.deviantart.com/art/FELURIAN-330810686,
1376012663.0,69,self.KingkillerChronicle,1jzy67,Thank you Pat,75,6,15,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1jzy67/thank_you_pat/,"I'm a teacher at a summer camp and year-round wilderness school and i'd like to thank Pat for creating stories WITHIN his stories that stand alone as real naratives, not just cheezy intros to plot developments later. I've told the stories of Jax and Aethe to children throughout the year this year and they've reached them on a much deeper level than most stories written ""for children"", or most short fiction written in and of itself. I've told the stories without background or context to the overall tale and they're STILL WHOLE AND COMPLETE, which shows how real they could be. They're the kinds of stories someone would really tell.
THANK YOU
P.S. Almost every week i get requests for ""more stories like jax"" or comments of ""last night's story was so sad. I had dreams about it. can you tell us another tonight?""",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1jzy67,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1jzy67/thank_you_pat/,
1357235627.0,62,self.KingkillerChronicle,15wc46,What Kote is missing (WMF),78,16,18,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/15wc46/what_kote_is_missing_wmf/,"I just read the series about a week back, and I've been going through this subreddit as well as the TOR re-read. I see frequent mention of a conjecture that the box in Kote's room contains the ""v"" and the ""h"" that would make Kvothe whole.
So what really is the difference between Kote the innkeeper and Kvothe the hero? I think the ""V"" and ""H"" that Kote is missing are his ""V""oice and his ""H""ands, two things which made Kvothe the legend that he was.
What does reddit think?",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,True,t3_15wc46,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/15wc46/what_kote_is_missing_wmf/,
1363047638.0,64,self.KingkillerChronicle,1a46rr,(Spoilers All) The number one reason I'm looking forward to Day 3. ,71,7,38,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1a46rr/spoilers_all_the_number_one_reason_im_looking/,"It's Denna.
I just finished my second read through and I have to tell you....I really don't understand all the Denna hate.
I know that the most argue they don't like who Kvothe becomes when he is around her or that she shows up unexpectedly everywhere or that she is flakey all the time but I love that about her. The way Pat sets up and progresses their relationship is my favorite part of the narrative.
The moment that hooked me into the series hardest was the way she talked to Kvothe and depended on him in Trebon when she is all high and loopy. That's what got me really really invested in those two. Then came the chapter with the Cthaeh telling him how she cries for him at night and I had to put the book down and take a break otherwise I, an adult man, may have cried.
At this point finding out what became of Denna and their relationship in the frame story is what I'm reading for. It was the fact he wanted to set her story straight that got him to tell the story to Chronicler in the first place. Before re-introducing her to the story he broke into a lengthy sermon about her, where he decorates her as perfect but is so sorrowful about it. I'm hoping for something beautifully tragic for them. I'm reasonably sure I'll get it.
",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1363048295.0,,,True,t3_1a46rr,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1a46rr/spoilers_all_the_number_one_reason_im_looking/,
1370513036.0,67,self.KingkillerChronicle,1fs60a,Jamie Lannister and The Wayside Inn,78,11,34,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1fs60a/jamie_lannister_and_the_wayside_inn/,"This is not mine, I found it on an ASOIAF board http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/49709-the-wise-mans-fear-v-spoilers-and-speculation-within/page__st__40
But I thought you guys might find it interesting, I think they said Rothfuss wrote it himself
It was midmorning, and the autumn sun was hot as Jaime Lannister opened the door of the Waystone Inn. The place was oddly quiet, and he peered through the door, one hand resting lightly on his sword.
The taproom was empty except for a dark-haired young man lounging behind the bar. “Can I help you?”
Jaime stepped inside. “I’m looking for the owner. We have… business.”
The young man stood up straighter. “He’s stepped out for a moment. You’re Jaime?”
Jaime frowned slightly as he looked the young man over. “I am. And you are?”
“Bast.” The young man said with a grin. “He said I’m to make you comfortable if you showed up early. He shouldn’t be more than an hour or two. Can I get you something to drink?”
Jaime moved to sit at the bar. “I don’t suppose you have any decent wine out here in the ass end of nowhere?”
“What do you mean by decent?” Bast asked.
Jaime waved a hand dismissively. “Why don’t you bring out your best bottle? I’ll tell you if it’s something worth drinking.”
Bast looked offended as he headed down the basement stairs, returning a moment later with a dusty bottle.
“Something off the top shelf, I hope,” Jamie said.
“Something from behind the shelf,” Bast said proudly. “I can’t keep track of what the wines are called in these parts, but I’m guessing when you hide a bottle, it’s the good stuff.”
Bast worked a corkscrew and opened the bottle with a deft flourish. Then he brought out a tall wineglass, poured an inch of deep red wine into it, and held it out with an ingratiating smile.
Jaime made no motion to take it. “You drink half.”
Bast glanced down at the glass, then back up, his smile fading. “It tells you a lot about a man when he says something like that.”
Jaime showed his teeth in a sharp, joyless expression that had the shape of a smile. “It says a lot about you,” he said smugly, “that you aren’t willing to drink it.”
Bast gave a dismissive sniff, picked up the glass, and took a mouthful of the dark wine. Then he raised his eyebrows and made an appreciative noise as he picked up the bottle and eyed the engraving on the neck. “I can see why he hid this one,” Bast said, pouring more into the glass. “That’s just lovely.”
Jaime shrugged. “Ah well,” he said. “You know what they say. Better safe than sore,” he held out his hand.
Bast brought the glass close to his chest, his blue eyes icy. “This is my drink now.” He took another sip of the wine. “Rude guests go thirsty. Drink your own piss for all I care.”
Jaime’s expression went dark. “I’m not here for you,” he said. “But killing you wouldn’t be far out of my way.”
They stared at each other for a while across the bar. After a moment, Bast set the bottle down hard on the bar. “Fine,” he said, nudging it so it slid forward. “I won’t insult you by offering you a glass or anything. I could poison that, too. You’ll just have to drink it right from the bottle…” Bast grinned. “Like an unlettered cretin.”
Jaime picked up the bottle. “Boy,” he said. “If it makes you feel brave to show your teeth to me, go right ahead. But I’ll only tolerate so much.” He took a drink straight from the bottle, paused, and took another slower drink as if to make sure of something. He looked surprised. “Well, that is good, isn’t it?”
Bast nodded and took another sip.
“Did he say when he’ll be back?”
Bast looked down at his feet. “A couple hours,” he said with an odd tone in his voice. “He wasn’t expecting you until noon.”
“Don’t look so glum, boy,” Jaime said. “Look at the bright side. In a couple hours I’ll be on my way and you’ll be the owner of this fine inn.”
Bast looked up and his eyes were anxious. “I don’t suppose I could convince you to call this off?”
Jaime gave a humorless laugh and took another drink. “Good lord, boy. Why on earth would I do that?”
“Human decency?” Bast said.
Something about this struck the golden-haired man as funny, and he erupted into a great belly laugh that lasted for nearly a minute. Eventually he trailed off, wiping the water from his eyes. “You just earned yourself a tip, boy.” He shook his head in disbelief and took another drink.
“It’s just that…” Bast began.
“Look, boy.” Jaime leaned forward onto the bar. “I can tell you’re a talker. You probably learned that from him. I hear he’s got a silver tongue on him. Talked his way right out of the fight with the god-lion.” He gave Bast a serious look, his eyes hard as flint. “But that isn’t going to do him any good here.”
Jamie took another drink from the bottle before continuing. “You see, I’ve done some asking around. Your Kvothe has a bit of a reputation. Clever, quick. Devil with a sword. Strong as a bear. He can call down fire and lightning.” Jaime shook his head. “But I think all that is just stories. And the parts that aren’t just stories, he lost long ago.” He looked around the empty inn. “He wouldn’t be hiding here if he still had a scrap of power to call his own.”
Bast looked dejected, but he didn’t say anything.
“I’ll offer him a chance to surrender.” Jaime said magnanimously. “As thanks for this excellent bottle of wine.” He took one last drink and pushed it away from himself on the bar. “That’s enough of that. Start to turn my head, otherwise.”
“He might surprise you.” Bast said.
“With what?” Jaime said, laughing again. “That sword has dust on it, and his magic’s gone from what I hear. His silver tongue isn’t any good on me. He doesn’t even play music any more. What’s left?”
“I need to show you something,” Bast said. “Come here behind the bar.”
Jaime turned his shoulders, then frowned, looking down at his feet.
“Never mind,” Bast said, starting to walk around the bar. “I’ll come over to you.”
“Why can’t I move my legs?” Jaime said, his voice quiet and incredulous.
“Sethora,” Bast said simply. “It tends to start with the legs. You can probably still move your arms. But be careful or you’ll….” Jaime turned on his stool and toppled messily to the floor. “…Yeah. You’ll do that.”
Jaime writhed a bit, turning onto his side. Moving his arms sluggishly he managed to pull a long knife from his belt and throw it at Bast as came out from behind the bar. But the throw went wild and sunk into one of the thick-timbers of the tables.
Bast approached where the big man lay, stepping gracefully as a dancer. He stayed well out of arm’s reach through the man’s final struggles, waiting until he saw the tall man’s breathing grow stiff and labored.
“It was in the wine,” Bast stepped close and brushed the man’s golden hair out of his eyes. “I can’t believe you managed to drink so much of it. You must have the constitution of an ox.”
“But you…” Jaime’s mouth shaped the words though he lacked the breath to say them.
“You think I wouldn’t drink poison for him?” Bast asked. “Then you don’t know anything about him.”
Bast met the man’s glassy eyes. “You’re right. He’s not what he used to be. He’s lost everything. No magic. No music. No joy. No hope. You know what he has? You know what’s left?” Bast leaned closer, his voice low and vicious. “Me!” He practically spat the word, his eyes were wild. “He has me!”
The young man stood, took a fistful of the tall man’s golden hair, and began to drag his limp body across the floor.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1fs60a,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1fs60a/jamie_lannister_and_the_wayside_inn/,
1375303915.0,64,self.KingkillerChronicle,1jg3i9,"Analyzing the Thaum, the apparent unit of energy used in the University.",71,7,27,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1jg3i9/analyzing_the_thaum_the_apparent_unit_of_energy/,"*Contains very minor non-spoiler information. And Math.*
*EDIT. Forgot to convert Kj to j. Changed figures throughout to correct after peer review.
*
So I was re-reading The Wise Man's Fear, and I noticed that Kvothe gives us enough information about the Thaum for us to work out it's real-world value.
During his tuition interview, he is asked ""Once an ounce of water is boiling, how much heat will it take to boil it completely away?""
Kvothe answers: 180 Thaums. Which is reckoned a ""Good-enough"" answer by one of the Masters.
Assuming an ounce is the same as 'our' ounce (given we are dealing with liquids, I'm assuming a fl. ounce), then we have;
1 ounce(fl) = 0.02957 L of water ≅ 0.02957 kilograms (**m**ass)
**L**atent heat of vaporization of water = 2260 KJ/Kg.
**Q**(energy)=**L****m**
Q=(0.02957)(2,260,000)
Q=66,820 Kilo-Joules
180 Thaums ≅ 67,000 Kilo-Joules
**1 Thaum ≅ 370 Joules**
In the Name Of The Wind, Master Kilvin estimates that the bone-tar released about 850 million Thaums. Our conversion rate brings that to around;
850,000,000 Thaum ≅ 316,400,000,000 Joules
The bone-tar came in a container that Kvothe calls ""a... cylinder... about four feet high and two across.""
Formula for volume of a cylinder;
V = π r^2 h
Converted to metric we get
V = (π)(.3)^2 (1.22)
V = 0.345 m^3
Comparing this volume to the heat produced by the combustion of the bone-tar, we can get a very rough estimate of the energy density of the bone-tar.
If 0.345m^3 of bone-tar releases 3.145x10^11 Joules of heat, then 1m^3 contains 9.17x10^11 J/m^3
(or 917 MJ/L)
(However this estimate is on the low side, I'm assuming that the cylinder was full, and that the outer dimensions were indicative of the interior volume, both of which are not true. But the true figure should be roughly in the same ballpark.)
Comparing this to a chemical we have a lot of everyday experience with like petrol, we get a slightly ~~disappointing~~ exciting result,
Petrol has an energy density of 4.73x10^7 J/Kg, along with a density of 838 Kg/m^3.
This gives 1m^3 of petrol an energy density of around 3.964x10^10 J/m^3 (I'm doing a good bit of rounding, according to Wikipedia, petrol has about 3.6 MJ/L, but I've found a lot of differing values elsewhere for the different physical properties of petrol.)
This means that for the same volume, petrol contains just ~~over 43 times as much energy as the bone-tar.~~ *under one twentieth as much energy as the bone-tar.*
~~To give you a better idea, here's a [graph](http://i.imgur.com/graAJRc.jpg) of energy densities, our fantastical bone-tar would lie on the red line (we have no reference for mass sadly).~~ *It would lie ten times off the height of the graph.*
~~It doesn't look as dangerous as it ounce did, does it?~~ By the forgotten gods it's scary stuff now. (Not *even* including the whole 'dissolving bone' part.)
But do not despair! According to Master Kilvin, the vast majority of the bone-tar did not combust, and was instead controlled by sympathy and neutralized chemically with lime. So most likely you can entirely ignore the last two thirds of this post. *Now you can be even more afraid.*
Tune in next week where we'll count every single seven word sentence Kvothe says to Denna, just in case they form some kind of bizarre poem.
And it doesn't seem to be clear whether the Thaum is a unit of energy on its own, or only refers to the treatment of energy when dealing with heat. The only other abstract unit we see is the ""grip"" which seems to relate to specifically kinetic energy.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1375393183.0,,sygaldry-rune-green,True,t3_1jg3i9,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1jg3i9/analyzing_the_thaum_the_apparent_unit_of_energy/,
1357753109.0,64,reddit.com,169b8c,Patrick Rothfuss just posted his AMA - doing the 'live' Q&A at 8PM CST,69,5,1,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/169b8c/patrick_rothfuss_just_posted_his_ama_doing_the/,,,False,default,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_169b8c,http://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/1699yv/im_fantasy_author_patrick_rothfuss_ama/,
1355076317.0,63,self.KingkillerChronicle,14k0f7,Favorite quote from the books. Go!,72,9,55,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/14k0f7/favorite_quote_from_the_books_go/,"I'll start:
""We love what we love. Reason does not enter into it. In many ways, unwise love is the truest love. Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket. But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.""
I love this series so fucking much.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_14k0f7,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/14k0f7/favorite_quote_from_the_books_go/,
1334635977.0,60,self.KingkillerChronicle,sdp0y,What's your favorite easy-to-miss detail in NOTW or WMF?,64,4,62,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/sdp0y/whats_your_favorite_easytomiss_detail_in_notw_or/,"So we all know that NOTW and WMF is full of foreshadowing and rich detail, but what is your favorite?
For instance, in NOTW Kilvin asks Kvothe if he knows the saying ""Chan Vaen edan Kote"". Kvothe says ""Seven years.....I don't know Kote"". Kilvin replies that it means ""expect disaster every seven years"".
This means that Kvothe chose a pseudonym, 'Kote', that means 'disaster'. It broke my heart a little when I realized this is how he sees himself. ",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_sdp0y,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/sdp0y/whats_your_favorite_easytomiss_detail_in_notw_or/,
1366262565.0,62,self.KingkillerChronicle,1cl83g,I learned something new today about The Eolian...,71,9,29,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1cl83g/i_learned_something_new_today_about_the_eolian/,"So I was wearing my Eolian shirt today on campus, and a professor I've never met before comes up to me and asks about it. Through our conversation, I learned that an [Aeolian harp](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolian_harp) is an old stringed instrument that is played by the wind!
I think this is an awesome little detail that just shows what an incredible amount of work Pat put into creating this world. Yay Pat!
(There's a link at the bottom of that page with what it sounds like, for the curious)
",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1cl83g,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1cl83g/i_learned_something_new_today_about_the_eolian/,
1341618348.0,60,self.KingkillerChronicle,w5kuu,Listen to the Tinkers.,65,5,12,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/w5kuu/listen_to_the_tinkers/,"EDIT: I should have put SPOILERS all over this. . .
I just noticed this:
In NoTW, Kvothe turned down the strawberry fruit wine and rope deal the tinker offered. Later, he ran into Denna and found out that she likes strawberry fruit wine (but he didn't have any cause he refused the Tinker's offer). Then, while they were planning to kill the dragon, Denna's plan of luring it towards a cliff to shove it off required some rope to hang the bucket of denner resin over a tree branch.
The consequence of not having some ropes on hand resulted in the town getting burn down.
In WMF, Kvothe once again turned down some wax that he can rub on his boots to keep them dry. And what do you know, he had some pretty miserable time camping out in the rain while tracking down bandits.
TL;DR: If you don't listen to the Tinker on the road, you're gonna have a bad time.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,True,t3_w5kuu,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/w5kuu/listen_to_the_tinkers/,
1368408693.0,54,kickstarter.com,1e7uai,"Official Deck of Cards based on ""Name of the Wind"" kickstarter.",65,11,12,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1e7uai/official_deck_of_cards_based_on_name_of_the_wind/,,,False,http://e.thumbs.redditmedia.com/JaTZjn_4w6V-5QjL.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1e7uai,http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460165270/the-name-of-the-wind-playing-cards,
1364344309.0,56,24.media.tumblr.com,1b2unm,"This is my depiction of young Kvothe. It's just a sketch for now, but I thought I could share.",76,20,12,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1b2unm/this_is_my_depiction_of_young_kvothe_its_just_a/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/rnVeHl08ntNB2v7l.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1b2unm,http://24.media.tumblr.com/c2d8be70fb894e31f17ef801723d19d7/tumblr_mkalhg13fT1qhwni3o1_1280.jpg,
1360017798.0,56,self.KingkillerChronicle,17w76s,Time travel?,61,5,29,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/17w76s/time_travel/,"This is a pretty outrageous assertion, so I'm just gonna get on with it minus all the preamble. I think it's possible that Taborlin's legend, or at least part of it, is based on Kvothe, who managed to use the temporal distortion of the Fae to travel back in time. I've seen others suggest this before on this sub so I just wanted to point out a couple easter eggs in support of this idea that I've noticed as I read along.
During a campfire discussion in the Eld, Kvothe says he thinks of Taborlin's cloak of no particular color as being too dark to have a color. His cloak/shaed from Felurian is made of shadow, among other things.
The two cardinal directions in the Fae, as described by Felurian, are sometimes called ""Forward and Back"".
The much speculated upon point that Taborlin's key, coin and candle, if unconnected to Kvothe's first three gifts from Auri, would be an improbable coincidence.
When Bast and Chronicler are trying to encourage Kvothe regarding the Cthaeh, he gives a sort of fond, wistful laugh and says something like ""You're both so young"". This is probably the strongest tidbit to support the time travel idea, because Bast is over 100 years old if memory serves, and Chronicler had already written his book about the draccus when Kvothe was 15. Looking at it now, I'm kind of shocked I never realized the extent of the incongruity of his statement there.
And of course, when one of the townsfolk said ""You seem older,"" Kvothe responds, ""I am.""
This isn't really evidence, but Kvothe seems to make a point of saying several times ""I was no Taborlin the Great"", or other people saying to him something to the tune of ""You're clever, but you're no young Taborlin"". I just think it would be funny if we later discover that he actually is Taborlin.
I think you should all be able to extrapolate from the preceding paragraphs what my point is, and I don't feel like writing a conclusion. Thanks for reading.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_17w76s,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/17w76s/time_travel/,
1356762314.0,56,i.imgur.com,15m4i2,What I imagine an Adem building to look like.,66,10,7,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/15m4i2/what_i_imagine_an_adem_building_to_look_like/,,,False,http://e.thumbs.redditmedia.com/7btDO9_8HLx7qxmd.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_15m4i2,http://i.imgur.com/VBduJ.jpg,
1346631181.0,54,self.KingkillerChronicle,z962x,We are part of the story brought to life,61,7,15,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/z962x/we_are_part_of_the_story_brought_to_life/,"After having read threads here for a while, and other forums and blogs, something occurred to me today:
All of us have in a way become part of the story, brought to life. We pass around rumors, half truths, and speculation to each other about Kvothe and the state of the world and how things go as bad as they are. There are even a few things that have come to be ""accepted"" as the most likely ""truth"" (like the real identity of Kvothe's mother) without any real evidence.
I'm enjoying reading all of the posts here even more now, as I imagine all of you as characters trading stories on the roads and in the inns.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,book,True,t3_z962x,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/z962x/we_are_part_of_the_story_brought_to_life/,
1340121613.0,53,self.KingkillerChronicle,va422,"/r/KingkillerChronicle has reached 1,000 subscribers!",62,9,12,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/va422/rkingkillerchronicle_has_reached_1000_subscribers/,"**I am excited to announce that /r/KingkillerChronicle has reached [1,000 subscribers](http://i.imgur.com/VJj24.jpg)!**
I just wanted to thank everyone that has helped spread the word about our little subreddit. These are such great books, and every new reader that joins adds even more great content, theories and discussion to the community.
You guys rock!
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There are a lot of great books listed there to help you get through the wait until [The Doors of Stone](http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2495565.The_Doors_of_Stone).
**-- And of course, if you are wanting more theories and speculation - make sure to check out the [TOR Reread](http://www.tor.com/features/series/patrick-rothfuss-reread)!**
This is a great in-depth reread of the books thus far, packed full of theories, speculation, and awesome ideas.
The reread is split up into the two books, and then the chapters/""parts"" for each book:
[Reread Introduction](http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/04/the-patrick-rothfuss-reread-introduction)
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-Your friendly /r/KingkillerChronicle mods.
",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1340121814.0,,wind,True,t3_va422,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/va422/rkingkillerchronicle_has_reached_1000_subscribers/,moderator
1327277627.0,53,i.imgur.com,os3iu,The french cover is so beautiful,56,3,7,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/os3iu/the_french_cover_is_so_beautiful/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/v2jY41KP1wHWnkWT.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,tehlin-wheel,False,t3_os3iu,http://i.imgur.com/jgJu2.jpg,
1375115463.0,54,tor.com,1ja95i,Tor.com: Casting Patrick Rothfuss’s The Name of the Wind,71,17,49,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1ja95i/torcom_casting_patrick_rothfusss_the_name_of_the/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/ldsNzcrJ8Rsp8NA1.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,tree,False,t3_1ja95i,http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/07/casting-the-name-of-the-wind,
1359164367.0,56,self.KingkillerChronicle,17ajc5,"Theory on Kvothe's Parentage (Long Post, Spoilers)",62,6,32,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/17ajc5/theory_on_kvothes_parentage_long_post_spoilers/,"I've been forming a theory (no idea if it's original, but probably not) that Kvothe's father is Iax. Iax being the ancient shaper whom played a large part in constructing the Fae, eventually stole the moon, started the creation war, and ended up locked beyond the doors of stone. I think that Iax is indeed Kvothe's father and that there is a decent amount of evidence pointing toward this, which I'll try to point out...
>>Note: I'm not saying that Arliden=Iax, more along the lines of Arliden might not be Kvothe's biological father.
>.
>First off, if you haven't read up on Kvothe's mother then you should probably do that. At this point it's pretty much confirmed that she is the runaway sister of Meluan Lackless, and this assumption plays a large part in the rest of my theory.
.
>With that said, I'll start with what first tipped me off, Kvothe's eyes. So far no other humans we've seen have had eyes that change colors. We have seen Fae changing their eyes, but they always turn lighter in color, going fully blue then eventually white, which is pretty much the opposite of what Kvothe's do. However there was an interesting story told to Kvothe by Felurian. In this story she told him of the Fae's history and happened to mention a certain person with ""dark and changing eyes"": Iax.
>>*Before I could ask more questions, Felurian took my hand and nestled the stone between our palms again. “this shaper of the dark and changing eye stretched out his hand against the pure black sky. he pulled the moon, but could not make her stay. so now she moves ’twixt mortal and the fae.”*
>.
>So, how could Kvothe's mother have managed to come into contact with Iax? Especially with him being in presumably the hardest place to reach in existence; beyond the doors of stone?
.
>Well, I think that it is indeed a hard place to get to for most, but for the Lackless family it might not be so hard as it is for everyone else. This is because they seem to have their very own 'Door of Stone': the Lockless Door. My theory is that Laurian, being the young curious Lady Lackless who would eventually end up spending the rest of her life with a bunch of story collectors, at some point became a bit too interested in the riddle of her families storied ""Lockless Door"", and much like her son she had a knack for getting into places where she shouldn't be.
.
>I think this entire story is actually hidden in a song in the early parts of the first book. Kvothe apparently hears a little girl chanting the song and then recites it for us, much to the dismay of his mother whom overhears it. The song is as follows, I'll also include another related song that appears later in the second book.
.
>>Song #1
1. *""Seven things has Lady Lackless*
2. *Keeps them underneath her black dress*
3. *One a ring that’s not for wearing*
4. *One a sharp word, not for swearing*
5. *Right beside her husband’s candle*
6. *There’s a door without a handle*
7. *In a box, no lid or locks*
8. *Lackless keeps her husband’s rocks*
9. *There’s a secret she’s been keeping*
10. *She’s been dreaming and not sleeping*
11. *On a road, that’s not for traveling*
12. *Lackless likes her riddle raveling.*
.
>>Song #2
1. *""Seven things stand before*
2. *The entrance to the Lackless door*
3. *One of them a ring unworn*
4. *One a word that is forsworn*
5. *One a time that must be right*
6. *One a candle without light*
7. *One a son who brings the blood*
8. *One a door that holds the flood*
9. *One a thing tight-held in keeping*
10. *Then comes that with comes with sleeping""*
>.
>Before I go further I should say what I think the songs are about. Song #2 I believe explains what is required to open the Lockless Door and its last line is about what is beyond the door. Song #1 I've concluded is the actual story of a Lady Lackless going beyond said door in secret.
.
>That's probably not good enough, so here's my more indepth analysis of song #1.
.
>Lines 1 and 2 are referencing that Lady Lackless does indeed have the seven things required for the door, but is keeping them hidden.
Lines 3 - 8 are just pointing out what each thing is, mirroring the second song. I could go into what I think each of them are, but that isn't really relevant to this post.
Line 9 again points out that she is keeping it secret, the other Lackless probably don't know what she is doing and I'm guessing if they did it wouldn't make them happy (maybe that's why she ended up with the Ruh, they found out? To protect Kvothe from them?).
Lines 10 and 11 mirror the final line of song #2. I think beyond the door is some dream-like state or place (Doors of Stone analogous to the Doors of the Mind?), and this is where I believe she came into contact with Iax.
Line 12 probably has some double meaning, like her love of riddles and how hearing about the door piqued her interest, or maybe it refers to her son with the whole Ruh/ravel = Ruhling/raveling, the riddle bit being that she is setting him up to be or be seen as a Ruh. It could even mean that she made this song herself.
.
>This post is getting pretty huge, but that's most of it. I'll go ahead and add in this quote from Arliden that is quite amusing if this theory turns out to be true.
.
>>*My father was looking down at my mother, nestled under his arm. “How about it, woman? Did you happen to bed down with some wandering God a dozen years ago? That might solve our little mystery.”
She swatted at him playfully, and a thoughtful look crossed her face...*",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1359177038.0,,writ,True,t3_17ajc5,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/17ajc5/theory_on_kvothes_parentage_long_post_spoilers/,
1356455919.0,55,imgur.com,15fcrn,One of the best gifts I've gotten in a while,62,7,5,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/15fcrn/one_of_the_best_gifts_ive_gotten_in_a_while/,,,False,http://c.thumbs.redditmedia.com/1FCqveK2Toc6DJfb.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_15fcrn,http://imgur.com/cUZr7,
1366512535.0,52,audible.com,1cs2md,"Audible has The Name of the Wind audiobook on sale for $9.45 all week. If you've only read the text, I highly recommend giving the audio version a listen.",58,6,24,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1cs2md/audible_has_the_name_of_the_wind_audiobook_on/,,,False,http://c.thumbs.redditmedia.com/rC3sH4tfqOIXcDKD.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,talent-pipes,False,t3_1cs2md,http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_1?asin=B002UZMLXM&qid=1366512322&sr=1-1,
1346929591.0,56,chainsawsuit.com,zg0d6,Patrick Rothfuss reads a hilarious Kingkiller fan-fiction on stage,59,3,8,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/zg0d6/patrick_rothfuss_reads_a_hilarious_kingkiller/,,,False,default,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_zg0d6,http://chainsawsuit.com/2012/09/05/the-even-more-name-of-the-winds-plural/,
1333853882.0,56,i.imgur.com,ryqrq,Fantastic Fan-Art of Kvothe fighting the Draccus. [Unknown Artist],59,3,6,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/ryqrq/fantastic_fanart_of_kvothe_fighting_the_draccus/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/opSVWrHRTFxdzsAO.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,Lute,False,t3_ryqrq,http://i.imgur.com/xndWs.jpg,
1367394807.0,54,self.KingkillerChronicle,1dgy11,"Wow. Unbelievable. Google the word ""Sceop"" (spoiler both)",59,5,8,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1dgy11/wow_unbelievable_google_the_word_sceop_spoiler/,"Shaper. Singer. A bard. Singer might be obvious as the legend of the Edema Ruh, but shaper?
And since Ademic for speaking is ""sceopa"", perhaps shaping = singing = speaking words of power? This could be why the Adem dont talk or sing much; they are opposed to shaping perhaps. The story of Faeriniel says after Sceop finished speaking, the Edema Ruh acted like just waking from a deep sleep. Sounds a bit like Skarpi and Kvothe to me. AND ""Skarpi"" even sounds like ""Sceop-i"" (Sceop is pronounced like scop apparently)
EDIT: actually, if this means that Skarpi may be on the shapers' side and therefore the ""Lanre Turned"" story is somehow warped to fit the shapers/Iax's side, then this changes everything. It may support Denna's side of the story if this is the case.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1367424287.0,,,True,t3_1dgy11,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1dgy11/wow_unbelievable_google_the_word_sceop_spoiler/,
1364924899.0,53,self.KingkillerChronicle,1bj14o,Kvothe as a Mary Sue,62,9,34,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1bj14o/kvothe_as_a_mary_sue/,"I've seen this point made before, and I don't really understand it. A Mary Sue is bad because they're boring characters. Kvothe, while seemingly good at everything, isn't boring.
* All the qualities that you want Kvothe to have end up getting him into trouble at some point;
* His ambition make enemies for him frequently.
* His skill alienates him.
* His sexual prowess with the ladies drives Denna (his presumed ""True Love"") further out of his reach.
* The first thing he does after leaving the Adem and learning of the lethani is kill a whole troop.
* His ru pride drives him out of the graces of one of the most powerful men we've yet seen in the books.
*
* His faults may not lay in his skills but they certainly pop up in his attitued; Vengful, proud, spiteful, arrogent, stuborn, cruel, and often misguided.
* We sympathise with all the actions he takes, even the bad ones, because we're seeing things from his perspective in his tale.
",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,sygaldry-rune-green,True,t3_1bj14o,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1bj14o/kvothe_as_a_mary_sue/,
1354542434.0,51,i.imgur.com,1476vl,"CGI imagining of (a bald, shirtless) Cinder, goat-eyedness and all. ",62,11,12,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1476vl/cgi_imagining_of_a_bald_shirtless_cinder/,,,False,http://d.thumbs.redditmedia.com/qd38ouUWpMWzYriQ.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,book,False,t3_1476vl,http://i.imgur.com/tUvsq.jpg,
1360788108.0,52,i.imgur.com,18gsy8,"I have had this as my background for three months and love it, and this is better resolution.",61,9,16,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/18gsy8/i_have_had_this_as_my_background_for_three_months/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/TiNPfYbz0SyXYf4r.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_18gsy8,http://i.imgur.com/SQViKWa.jpg,
1332950872.0,52,imgur.com,rhp01,A few artists' renditions of the characters from Name of the Wind and Wise Man's Fear. NSFW (Felurian).,61,9,25,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/rhp01/a_few_artists_renditions_of_the_characters_from/,,,True,nsfw,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,False,t3_rhp01,http://imgur.com/a/RNgP3,
1355454789.0,51,tor.com,14tnhl,"I don't know how often you guys check the Tor re-read, but there are occasionally new posts. Here's the latest.",55,4,2,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/14tnhl/i_dont_know_how_often_you_guys_check_the_tor/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/oXBNYgh0A2JtNHay.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_14tnhl,http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/11/rothfuss-re-read-speculative-summary-16-you-may-have-heard-of-me,
1369782952.0,53,imgur.com,1f8csc,My magnificently rendered $0.99 mousepad arrived today!,61,8,10,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1f8csc/my_magnificently_rendered_099_mousepad_arrived/,,,False,http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.com/ajd8M2MprWY8F9Se.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,sword,False,t3_1f8csc,http://imgur.com/Xp7RnGI,
1358841969.0,52,self.KingkillerChronicle,171nmg,Just more genius from Pat (WMF spoilers),55,3,6,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/171nmg/just_more_genius_from_pat_wmf_spoilers/,"Rereading it and the seventh chapter of WMF is called Admissions. My first thought was that it just talks about his admissions interview, but Kvothe doesn't even go through admissions. He is ""poisoned"" with the Plum-Bob and ends up trading slots with Fela. So, after thinking about it, I realized that the chapter title has a second meaning. He ends up in his room at Ankers with Auri and finally **admits** that to someone that he misses his mother and he'll never see her again. I think Pat's beard is where his genius comes from.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_171nmg,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/171nmg/just_more_genius_from_pat_wmf_spoilers/,
1367062840.0,48,en.wikipedia.org,1d7mpw,I think Robert Sheehan would make a great Kvothe,74,26,35,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1d7mpw/i_think_robert_sheehan_would_make_a_great_kvothe/,,,False,http://c.thumbs.redditmedia.com/50QkKxGsmi8CZgw2.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,edema-ruh,False,t3_1d7mpw,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Robert_Sheehan_MingFilmFest_2011.jpg,
1350213082.0,49,fav.me,11ggcj,"A drawing of Denna (aka Dianne, Dinnah, Dyanae, Dinael, Dinay, Dianah, Donna, Dyane, Alora).",65,16,10,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/11ggcj/a_drawing_of_denna_aka_dianne_dinnah_dyanae/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/3fd3ETgOxO_SHYy7.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,talentpipes,False,t3_11ggcj,http://fav.me/d5htqub,
1344617107.0,50,self.KingkillerChronicle,y05cr,"Pull out your tin hats, people! An elaboration on the theory of why Kvothe is no longer ""the Arcane."" [Spoilers for WMF]",50,0,46,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/y05cr/pull_out_your_tin_hats_people_an_elaboration_on/,"I (along with others, I believe) posited a theory about why Kvothe seems to have lost his ability to use sympathy when attacked in the Inn - and why there is no music in the Inn. I'll replicate it [here](http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/wbuwy/something_is_conspicuously_absent_from_kotes_inn/c5c9ywk):
>I think an important part of what's locking Kvothe's magic away is that he is no longer Kvothe - he's Kote. Bast as much as says this a few times, pointing out that he just wants his Reshi back, and that it's the Chronicler's job to do it. I think it's more serious than Bast realizes, but that this is exactly the problem with Kote - Kvothe's gone, and Kote doesn't think he's coming back.
>What gives this credence is the panicked reaction that Elodin has when Kvothe brings up the matter of changing names. Elodin's immediate thought is that Kvothe or Fela, both proven namers at this point, have changed their names. He implies that it is something truly catastrophic and reckless. I suspect that Kvothe changed his Name - not just his calling name, but is Sleeping Name. He removed everything that made him Kvothe the Arcane, Kvothe Bloodless, Maedre of Lightning, Flame and Broken Tree, and perhaps even Kvothe of the Ruh, who was to be the next Illien. He owns property, for Tehlin's sake. His sympathy and his naming are gone, and perhaps even his ear for music. Can you imagine one moment of foolishness, wiping that away?
>Kvothe is not sitting in that inn, waiting to die. Kvothe is already dead. His corpse just wakes up in the morning and calls himself Kote. He knows everything that Kvothe did, remembers everything Kvothe did. But the wind is a stranger to him, his Alar is broken, and no music fills his soul. All that was cut away, leaving only a shell. The box that he made (we assume) no longer answers to Kote.
>What's curious to me is that he seems to have retained his understanding of the Lethani - he not only remembered Adem hand-combat in his bout with the mercenaries, but also seems to retain the almost-mystic connection to Lethani that Sheyn displays with her ""perfect step"" - a feat Kote replicates in passing at the conclusion of The Wise Man's Fear. This either implies that Kvothe did not erase that part of himself (despite the fact that he and Caesura/Kaysera have parted ways, replaced by Folly) or that it is something that otherwise can survive the erasure that Kvothe conducted on himself.
Alright, now bear with me. I was thinking about misbehaving arcanists, like our beloved poisoner Caudicus. What does the University do about people like him? How can Master Dal stop Kvothe from making a sword that boils the blood of people it cuts? How could Master Arwyl stop one of his students from becoming the world's greatest poisoner? How does the University stop its sympathists from becoming assassins for hire - after all, one cadaver's heart can make a little hole in an aorta a thousand meters away, and it'll just look like a heart attack if it's done right. Presumably, the long and arduous career of most gillers acts as a way to weed out people of poor moral fiber (not that it seems to work for Ambrose or Hemme), and Master Dal, in particular, is very sensitive to the need to protect and defend the reputation of artifcery. But every system is fallible, and a clever king or other political force that could afford a ten- or twenty-year wait time for the abilities of an arcanist-assassin, or a poisoner who never fails, or a weaponsmith that can make his armies unstoppable.
And then an awful thought occurred to me. What if Kvothe didn't name-shape himself? What if the function of the Master Namer is not to just to guide students into becoming namers, but to protect the practice of naming itself? What if the role of the Master Namer is to protect the *world* from *arcanists*?
If Kvothe killed the/a/some King in a public and brutal display of malfeasance (and the stones are reportedly still cracked where it happened), how could the University respond? Send sympathists and alchemists to subdue him, then lock him up? Or send one man, the right man, to strip away the ability to name, the gift of sympathy, and the power of Alar? To make Kvothe as if he had never been - no more than a legend, dead in his time? We know that Elodin is a very gifted Namer, and that he probably has the chops to pull something if it needed to be done - and the wisdom to know when and where it needed to happen.
So . . . discuss?",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_y05cr,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/y05cr/pull_out_your_tin_hats_people_an_elaboration_on/,
1374799795.0,48,self.KingkillerChronicle,1j2efl,The return of Kvothe?,55,7,25,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1j2efl/the_return_of_kvothe/,"(SPOILERS WMF)
So I just finished re-reading the two books, and at the end of WMF, it is implied that he is starting to do his Ketan by saying that he put up his hands like a dancer (referencing to Hespe making a joke about Tempi during their crusade) and that he takes a single perfect step. This is after his frustration with trying to open the chest.
My theory is that, along with the arranged fight where he says ""I almost forgot who I was"", he was not saying he forgot he was a innkeeper, but the opposite. He forgot he was Kvothe the Arcane, thus leading to him being defeated in the fight. I think he is starting his Ketan to bring his mind back to Spinning Leaf, and possibly regaining some sort of ability to be able to open the chest. Thoughts?",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1374801969.0,,,True,t3_1j2efl,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1j2efl/the_return_of_kvothe/,
1372471814.0,45,i.imgur.com,1haeew,"Came across this photo online, not sure of the context. Either way, thought you'd enjoy",64,19,14,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1haeew/came_across_this_photo_online_not_sure_of_the/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/G_TNhFeK5viO7F-m.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1haeew,http://i.imgur.com/2SHdFmr.jpg,
1367879900.0,50,self.KingkillerChronicle,1dtmic,[theory] The Kingkiller Chronicle is actually a prequel to the Chandrian Hunt,55,5,68,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1dtmic/theory_the_kingkiller_chronicle_is_actually_a/,"I've realized that the only thing that Kvothe accomplished is the killing of the king. He has yet to find the Amyr and to take his vengeance upon the Chandrian. That's what Bast wants him to do.
I can say this because Bast is still afraid of the Chandrian, and he desperately wants Kvothe to be like he was once.
Rothfuss isn't telling a great hero's story. He is building up a character, give him a name, a past, some places where he passed by, a lost love, to then use all that material for an epic story, much like what Harry Potter's first four books are in comparison to the last three.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,blue-flame,True,t3_1dtmic,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1dtmic/theory_the_kingkiller_chronicle_is_actually_a/,
1346020605.0,49,i.imgur.com,yvfpp,The UK covers are beautiful. There's also a slight difference between the hardback and paperback.,50,1,27,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/yvfpp/the_uk_covers_are_beautiful_theres_also_a_slight/,,,False,http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.com/ry4l4LHFusXRS8pY.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_yvfpp,http://i.imgur.com/TRLYj.png,
1368491876.0,46,self.KingkillerChronicle,1ea6ak,Here's a clue I haven't seen on here - Bredon/Cinder/Ash. Spoilers all.,56,10,27,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1ea6ak/heres_a_clue_i_havent_seen_on_here/,"I was reading a book where a character with a cane referred to part of it as the ""ferrule"" of the cane.
The ferrule of a can is the top part. Cinder's name in Shehyn's story is Ferule. Also, when Kvothe was naming Master Ash in WMF he said three names in a row. If you take the first two letters of the 1st name, *fe,* the second two of the second name, *ru*, and the last two of the third name, *le*, it spells ""Ferule,"" which is a big hint that Master Ash is Cinder.
Now, Bredon and Master Ash both have canes. What was Bredon's? A snarling wolf for the ferrule?
Can that be linked to Cinder in anyway? To the Amyr? To anything?
I know most of you don't think Bredon is Cinder and I've been lead away from that thought, too. There are just a lot of clues to support either theory.
Something to think about/discuss. I thought the ""ferrule"" thing was neat.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,True,t3_1ea6ak,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1ea6ak/heres_a_clue_i_havent_seen_on_here/,
1363918060.0,46,self.KingkillerChronicle,1arwla,Eolian Theory (No spoilers),55,9,6,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1arwla/eolian_theory_no_spoilers/,"I'm learning some music theory in school right now, and i came across something interesting. Sorry if this theory has already been posted, I haven't browsed many of the theories on here.
The Aeolian mode of a musical major scale is a different way to play a scale. You play the same notes of the scale, you just start at a different note up or down the scale. Needless to say, Aeolian and Eolian sound pretty similar.
The Aeolian mode of a scale moves the start of the scale up to the sixth note in that scale. Coincidentally, this is also the mode that is called a Relative Minor; It changes the scale from a major (happy, bright sound) into a minor scale (a sad scale). Maybe something happens at the Eolian that changes Kvothe for the worse, and puts him on track to becoming Kote, the mopey fall out? Maybe an interaction with Denna, maybe a fight with Ambrose that ends badly, maybe a falling out with Stanchion or Deoch?
Just a thought. Let me know what you think!",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,crescent-moon,True,t3_1arwla,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1arwla/eolian_theory_no_spoilers/,
1362364418.0,47,self.KingkillerChronicle,19m3do,TIL that Manet means he/she stays in Latin. (Remains on Google Translate),51,4,14,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/19m3do/til_that_manet_means_heshe_stays_in_latin_remains/,http://translate.google.com/#la/en/manet,,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_19m3do,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/19m3do/til_that_manet_means_heshe_stays_in_latin_remains/,
1334248819.0,46,imgur.com,s6dxw,"Flame, Thunder, Broken Tree [Wise Man's Fear]",50,4,9,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/s6dxw/flame_thunder_broken_tree_wise_mans_fear/,,,False,http://d.thumbs.redditmedia.com/zIHJcwYB6VzTmqL3.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,False,t3_s6dxw,http://imgur.com/a/z7nK0#Lrwvk,
1368993469.0,46,self.KingkillerChronicle,1encdy,"So... is it that Kote CAN'T use his talents, or that he CHOOSES not to?",50,4,28,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1encdy/so_is_it_that_kote_cant_use_his_talents_or_that/,"I'm going with the latter. I see a lot on here about how Kote 'can't use sympathy anymore' or 'can't fight anymore', supposedly because he changed his name. I like the idea of hiding a major plot point like that in plain sight, such as showing us Kote the whole time and then later pointing to what that actually signifies. BUT. I think all the stuff about Kote's inability to use sympathy or hand to hand combat are completely and plainly wrong. What is probably closer to the truth is Bast's speech about how people become their mask: Kvothe's apparent ineptitude is from his own self-defeating mind state. We've seen him act like the guy in the stories when he's mad.
Kvothe restrained Bast from attacking Chronicler. Bast later revealed a dark bruise on his wrist where Kvothe grabbed him.
Kvothe *started* beating the two muggers. Then he let them beat him, laughing hysterically on the floor. Obviously he thought it was better to lose some money/teeth than to reveal and/or become his old self.
When Chronicler pissed Kvothe off, Kvothe shattered a glass bottle on his counter using sympathy.
Finally, the constantly overlooked example of Kvothe's ability to revert to his old self is his dealings with the Scrael. He kept a piece of the first one they found. I've never seen anyone on here mention that he did that, and that using a part to represent the whole is a sympathetic principle. Plus, then he fought off five of them.
**tl;dr: Kote is actively trying not to be Kvothe anymore**",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1encdy,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1encdy/so_is_it_that_kote_cant_use_his_talents_or_that/,
1370816762.0,43,self.KingkillerChronicle,1g08wm,Bast Story,49,6,14,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1g08wm/bast_story/,"I went to one of Pat's Q&A's recently and he mentioned a novella about Bast that was going to come out. Soon. Like, this year. Does anyone know anything more about this?",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1g08wm,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1g08wm/bast_story/,
1349729126.0,40,blog.patrickrothfuss.com,115n51,"Rothfuss is going to have a short story featured in an anthology with several other fantasy authors. His story is set in the Four Corners world and is called ""How Old Holly Came To Be.""",45,5,7,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/115n51/rothfuss_is_going_to_have_a_short_story_featured/,,,False,default,t5_2smxb,False,,cthaeh,False,t3_115n51,http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2012/10/pre-order-of-unfettered/,
1341767117.0,47,imgur.com,w860j,I love this depiction of the Chandrian,51,4,13,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/w860j/i_love_this_depiction_of_the_chandrian/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/u9BUJttk7FeKu8yx.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,edema-ruh,False,t3_w860j,http://imgur.com/e8Kpx,
1355265563.0,46,self.KingkillerChronicle,14oum7,Kvothe's vow to Denna regarding her patron.,52,6,12,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/14oum7/kvothes_vow_to_denna_regarding_her_patron/,"Reread it once again, good times were had.
Don't have the book with me right now, but in Severen, as Denna just wants a pleasant time with Kvothe while he is trying to have a conversation about her patron she makes him swear to not look after him. Kvothe swears it on his **name**, his good **left hand** and even onto the ever moving **moon**.
All of these things have a vast influence in Kote's life. First thing being obvious, from Kvothe to Kote, he ""lost"" his **name**. The second thing was mentioned when Tempi showed him hand-talk; that it is done with the left hand and Kvothe immediately understood why because to some reference to playing lute. This would explain why there is no music anymore. His **left hand** is somewhat damaged. And the last thing being the ever moving moon, we have already heard so much about. Felurian once mentions that there could have been peace if Iax hadn't stolen the **moon**. This would explain the war.
What if his vow caused the future? Is this theory already existant or am I going somewhat crazy about this book again? What do you think about it?",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,True,t3_14oum7,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/14oum7/kvothes_vow_to_denna_regarding_her_patron/,
1339807924.0,44,2.bp.blogspot.com,v4bwx,New Mark Simonetti Wise Man's Fear covers!,45,1,8,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/v4bwx/new_mark_simonetti_wise_mans_fear_covers/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/cE_W3ZK77NaQ-BqB.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,talentpipes,False,t3_v4bwx,http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p2UXsABHe1s/T5EnCKKaG4I/AAAAAAAAD_k/ggheAPFdeyw/s1600/Patrick%2BRothfuss.jpg,
1376918713.0,43,i.imgur.com,1knxo8,I finally convinced my husband to listen to the NotW audiobook while he travels for work. I got this text this morning.,46,3,4,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1knxo8/i_finally_convinced_my_husband_to_listen_to_the/,,,False,http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.com/WUnSNFe92gitb4c_.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1knxo8,http://i.imgur.com/Nji0jkJ.jpg,
1371181363.0,43,self.KingkillerChronicle,1gbevp,This guy made me think of Kvothe,57,14,12,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1gbevp/this_guy_made_me_think_of_kvothe/,"The way that he really just seems to live and breathe music. He is fluent in the language of music and can see and feel the music on a whole another level than anyone else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7gphiFVVtUI",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1gbevp,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1gbevp/this_guy_made_me_think_of_kvothe/,
1348348125.0,46,self.KingkillerChronicle,10bal1,Auri's Underthings....possibly NSFW,63,17,32,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/10bal1/auris_underthingspossibly_nsfw/,"YOU DIRTY MIND, YOU......For Shame!
I want to talk about the Underthings
...three spiral staircases made of wrought iron, like standing at the bottom of a canyon...
one room had a pair of bricked up windows, despite being about 50 feet below ground...throughby, so big neither of their lights could touch the highest peaks in the ceiling....
huge machines all around...gears larger than a man, leather gone brittle with age....an iron block as large as a farmers cabin...
three pillars covered in verdigris thick as moss...
many machines were beyond identifying, looking more melted than rusted....something that looked like a water wheel in a dry canal that looked like a chasm...there didn't seem
Ok, first of all, the ending ""there didn't seem..."" keeps you hanging but I really forgot about this place pretty quickly.
Is this the original University that the current one was built upon (from Elodin's explanation of Rey'lar/naming)? Is the throughby the workshop that Kilvin would die for?
What are the pillars? they must be important as they are covered in verdigris which means they were copper...why would the university have/need that much copper? It will play a much bigger role in the future, we know copper is important, I wonder if this is how we will find out why/how it is so.
Does the underthing connect to the Door in the Archives? Honestly I dont think they do. I believe the Doors to be a gateway to another world/dimension rather than just a door.",,True,nsfw,t5_2smxb,1348348424.0,,sygaldry-rune-green,True,t3_10bal1,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/10bal1/auris_underthingspossibly_nsfw/,
1346251264.0,41,youtube.com,z0s4a,"Whenever I imagine Kvothe playing, I tend to imagine it being something like this - only less modern and with red hair.",45,4,8,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/z0s4a/whenever_i_imagine_kvothe_playing_i_tend_to/,,,False,http://e.thumbs.redditmedia.com/-M2UTZ1cXAATBqWp.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_z0s4a,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n3wHljJQ4M,
1341931376.0,44,self.KingkillerChronicle,wbuwy,"Something is conspicuously absent from Kote's inn (Spoilers, Chest theory)",47,3,25,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/wbuwy/something_is_conspicuously_absent_from_kotes_inn/,"Of all the things that Kvothe was known for, there is one thing that is entirely absent from Kote's inn. He treasured it above all else. He was completely lost without it. It was responsible for much of his success. It earned him a not unsubstantial income. It roused his sleeping mind when it was destroyed. It helped convince Vashet to continue teaching him of the Lethani. It reunited him with Denna. It made him a very unique friend at the university, and is responsible for his success with Elodin.
I am, of course, referring to his music, and more specifically his lute. For something that played such an incredibly large role in his life, it hasn't even been mentioned in Kote's inn.
EDIT: actually, I just noticed on my lunch while reading TWMF that Cobb mentions that Kote should have some music or something to give people an excuse to come by, and while Kote quietly agrees, Bast changes the subject.
So where is it? Well, in the Chest of course, along with Kvothe's magic, and the 'v' and 'h' in his name (though the letters I think are just a happy coincidence, as making his name the word for Disaster is much more significant than a pair of letters).
Here's what I think is the most important bit: I think that in the end, it won't be imminent danger, or the Chandrian, or anything sinister that brings Kvothe back from inside the chest.
It will be his music.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1341937683.0,,sygaldry-rune-green,True,t3_wbuwy,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/wbuwy/something_is_conspicuously_absent_from_kotes_inn/,
1337103053.0,43,imgur.com,tohfe,Devi,43,0,12,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/tohfe/devi/,,,False,http://c.thumbs.redditmedia.com/BsN4E_35eiygx46t.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,False,t3_tohfe,http://imgur.com/a/JKIde#ZJaWw,
1362912524.0,44,self.KingkillerChronicle,1a0pd2,"I painted this picture of Kvothe from the Kingkiller Chronicles (the Name of the Wind), I hope you like it!",55,11,5,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1a0pd2/i_painted_this_picture_of_kvothe_from_the/,"This is a painting I did of Kvothe. I LOVE this series, its so rich and enthralling, I've laughed and welled up in tears, just a brilliant narrative, with a complex and intense character at its center.
In this painting I tried a different style, trying for a more organic, brush stroke style. I'm not 100% on it but I gave it a go so I hope you like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCDYTODy1bg",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1a0pd2,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1a0pd2/i_painted_this_picture_of_kvothe_from_the/,
1343952148.0,42,self.KingkillerChronicle,xlcnw,"The Doors of Stone and Denna, possible spoilers and theories.",48,6,31,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/xlcnw/the_doors_of_stone_and_denna_possible_spoilers/,"So in the beginning of NoTW, when Chronicler talks to Kote, and mentions a woman, Kote freaks out. ""What do they know about what happened?"", ""What can any of them know about her?"" Chronicler remembers a story about Kvothe having to trick a demon to get his ""heart's desire"" and fighting an angel to keep it. When she is mentioned to Kote, a glass breaks a few inches away, and it smells of strawberries, Denna is known to like strawberry wine. ""The placid innkeeper's face was like a shattered mask. His eyes haunted.""
Now to me it seems like Kote is acting like a person who is being forced to remember the death of a loved one.
Now what if the Doors of Stone are the Doors of Death, The fourth door. It is mentioned that Lanre turned the tide of the creation war and put the ""creatures/enemies"" behind the doors of stone. So what if Kvothe attempts to open the Doors of Stone to free/find Denna, and in the process fight the door's guardian (an angel/amyr/fae, as it seems that a door like this would have some sort of protection) this would also explain the scrael, as they could have come from behind the Doors.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,True,t3_xlcnw,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/xlcnw/the_doors_of_stone_and_denna_possible_spoilers/,
1373837484.0,40,self.KingkillerChronicle,1iaq28,"Pat's Facebook: ""There's big things on the horizon...""",52,12,45,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1iaq28/pats_facebook_theres_big_things_on_the_horizon/,He had this caption with his Con schedules. Maybe a date announcement is imminent? ,,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,tree,True,t3_1iaq28,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1iaq28/pats_facebook_theres_big_things_on_the_horizon/,
1369189646.0,44,youtube.com,1et45r,Rothfuss is talking live right now while Devi's playing card is being designed!,47,3,8,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1et45r/rothfuss_is_talking_live_right_now_while_devis/,,,False,http://e.thumbs.redditmedia.com/ka5wixZZX2bq5gFd.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1et45r,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptmXe023sJM,
1353090226.0,40,self.KingkillerChronicle,13b62m,Patrick Rothfuss thinks Natalie Portman would make a good Denna. Do you agree?,42,2,58,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/13b62m/patrick_rothfuss_thinks_natalie_portman_would/,"""I can’t think of a good actor for Kvothe. But I’d love to see Natalie Portman play Denna. She has the right look for Denna, and more importantly, she’s an incredible actress. Denna is probably going to be one of the most difficult characters to play, so we’ll need someone with some serious chops.""
http://www.peter-hodges.com/2008/03/28/author-qa-patrick-rothfuss-part-two/",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_13b62m,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/13b62m/patrick_rothfuss_thinks_natalie_portman_would/,
1337201903.0,41,images1.wikia.nocookie.net,tqjei,Kvothe: You may have heard of me.,44,3,2,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/tqjei/kvothe_you_may_have_heard_of_me/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/XlpFe5BlvUqVpcyy.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,Lute,False,t3_tqjei,http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111127161254/nameofthewind/images/3/35/Kvothe-symbols.jpg,
1369231971.0,39,self.KingkillerChronicle,1eu1xy,Awesome Books. Awesome Theories. Awesome Community.,44,5,16,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1eu1xy/awesome_books_awesome_theories_awesome_community/,"I read the first 2 books a few months ago and was seriously impressed with how good they both were. Even then I could tell that Pat really put a lot of time and effort into his work, but after joining this sub and seeing all the intricacies I missed, all the insane theories that make total sense, and even all the speculation that goes completely over my head, I find myself feeling like I didn't really *read* the books at all.
I'm usually the kind of person that likes to wait at least a few years to read a book for a second time, but every time I visit this sub I leave wanting to pick the books back up again. Patrick is doing some great work with this series. I can't wait to see what he has in store for Book 3.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,edema-ruh,True,t3_1eu1xy,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1eu1xy/awesome_books_awesome_theories_awesome_community/,
1367008095.0,41,self.KingkillerChronicle,1d6cxb,A few things I cam across on a re-read of Name of the Wind,44,3,26,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1d6cxb/a_few_things_i_cam_across_on_a_reread_of_name_of/,"I keep coming across little details made I couldn't have been aware of the first time around. They all struck me and so I wrote them here to see if anyone had any thoughts on them.
>""'Things are too full of life in the spring months. In the summer, they're too strong and won't let go. Autumn...’ ” He looked around at the changing leaves on the trees.” ‘Autumn’s the time. In autumn **everything is tired and ready to die**.’ ”
I thought this was a pretty straightforward admission by Kvothe about his life. ""Too full of life"" in the Spring to die, ""too strong and won't let go"" in the Summer to die, but here he is in the Autumn, tired and waiting to die.
>He looked down at his hands, one curled inside the other, resting in his lap. After a moment, he lifted and spread them, as if warming them by the fire. They were graceful, with long, delicate fingers. He watched them intently, as if expecting them to do something on their own. Then he lowered them to his lap, one hand lightly cupping the other, and returned to watching the fire. Expressionless, motionless, **he sat until there was nothing left but grey ash and dully glowing coals**.
So, over on Tor, it's been suggested that something has happened to Kvothe's hands because they are mentioned so often throughout both books. But what struck me here is that our 3rd person narrator says ""until there was nothing left but gray ash and dully glowing coals."" It may be a little foreshadowing about how his Chandrian hunt may become an obsession for Kvothe and he loses himself in it.
Then, later, the narrator's like,
> The flare of flame revealed them all briefly, old wounds and new. All the scars were smooth and silver **except one**.
And I remember a lot of Kvothe's old scars never really leaving traces behind aside from the silver lines. Sounds like he's been punctured rather violently at some point we don't know about.
Later, after Kvothe kills the scraelings, Bast sings a song while Kvothe sleeps,
>“How odd to watch a mortal kindle
Then to dwindle day by day.
Knowing their bright souls are tinder
And the wind’ will have its way.
**Would I could my own fire lend.**
What does your flickering portend?”
At first I thought this was just Bast being sad that Kvothe is mortal. While I still think it confirms that Kvothe is mortal and not Chandrian or any of those other theories, I now think Bast may actually be giving Kvothe some fire. I presume this because of the weird magic Bast did in D2 when he switched mouths with Kvothe after he got beaten up by those soldiers. Maybe he can do that with some sort of life essence, too.
>“Devan. Devan Lochees.”
Kote stopped polishing the bar and looked up. “**Lochees? Are you related to Duke...”** Kote trailed off, nodding to himself.
I totally missed this my first read-through. DUH. Chronicler is a Lockless relative.
Take a look at Chronicler's reaction to Kvothe's prodding:
>Kote nodded, still expressionless. “I might have guessed he would be the first to find me. Rumormongers, both of you.” Chronicler’s smile grew sour, and he swallowed the first words that came to his lips. He struggled for a moment to recapture his calm demeanor.
Ha. Maybe Kvothe's short temper is a Lockless trait. Meluan is surely familiar with it!
Anyway, there's some things I found interesting. Sorry if a lot of this has been discussed here! I was hoping someone could point me to their own noticings as I continue my reread!",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1367008498.0,,Lute,True,t3_1d6cxb,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1d6cxb/a_few_things_i_cam_across_on_a_reread_of_name_of/,
1363983606.0,41,self.KingkillerChronicle,1atj66,Looking to start a pet project and my love for KKC has brought me here.,45,4,18,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1atj66/looking_to_start_a_pet_project_and_my_love_for/,"I know this subreddit is mostly used for donning our tin-foil hats. I've never posted, but I've spent a lot of time here reading others opinions, just trying to get my fill of the KingkillerChronicle. Which is apparently an impossible task.
I would like to illustrate and ""write"" (dialogue, ink? I'm not sure of the term) my own version of Name of the Wind, and perhaps more. But I would like to have enough interest in it so that I have people who are pushing me to do it (gently please!).
I love the KKC. I love the story it tells and I love the way it's told. From the framing to the word choice to the scenes and dialogue it paints in my head. I have a lot of free time and a lot of (so far wasted) potential, and I'm looking to do something that would both keep my interest and would be of interest to others. I am not looking for a profit (I am decidedly looking for not profit).
**A few questions are:**
* Is there interest if I try and keep it updated regularly (once a week?)
* Has this already been done and/or in the works?
* Is there anyone who would be interested in helping me block it?",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,talent-pipes,True,t3_1atj66,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1atj66/looking_to_start_a_pet_project_and_my_love_for/,
1352410421.0,41,self.KingkillerChronicle,12vm8h,My Elodin Theory (WMF Spoilers Maybe),50,9,34,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/12vm8h/my_elodin_theory_wmf_spoilers_maybe/,"I put a lot of this in some comments in [this thread](http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/12ud5g/question_of_spades/).
I don't really have anything to back this up with. It's all speculation, and it's fun to think about stuff like this.
The question of why Elodin would use his admissions question to tease Kvothe about playing cards poorly, with the same question Manet used got me thinking.
Having a bad night playing cards seems like a pretty insignificant occurrence. It seems unlikely that Manet, Wil, or Sim would ever tell anyone, let alone one of the masters, about it. So how does Elodin know?
I'm thinking Elodin and Manet are one and the same. Some things to think on:
* Elodin obviously knows something about changing one's own name. His reaction when Kvothe asks him about it speaks for itself.
* Elodin is constantly urging his naming students to shed logic in order to see.
* I can't recall ever seeing Manet and Elodin in the same place at the same time. (Please correct me if I'm wrong about this)
What if Elodin, in the pursuit of becoming a better namer, changed or split his name to alter his mental characteristics? He chooses and changes his name on a regular basis, but is unable to make the two whole again. When he removed his logical self, he went ""mad,"" but it became incredibly easy for him to know and see names.
The other masters are all smart. They wouldn't have thrown Elodin in the special cell in the crockery if they thought he'd be able to get out. After they put him there, he came to know the name of stone, and was able to escape.
When he changed his name to be Manet, he regained his logic. Logic seems to be a key trait for being a good artificer. Could there some advanced sygaldry that could change one's appearance? It's hinted that Manet knows things waay above the E'lir level.
Elodin is constantly late to things never (minus giving Fela her ring) wears his Master's Robes. Everyone seems to attribute it to his oddness, but could it be because he is always coming from somewhere else as Manet?
The other Masters would of course, know. Why else would Manet be allowed to spend so much time as an E'lir, but learn advanced material? Whenever Kvothe is raised to Re'lar, he isn't given the opportunity to accept or decline. It just happens.
If this is the case and the Masters did know, I think Dal would have told Elodin about suggesting Kvothe skip admissions beforehand. When K told everyone over drinks about having dinner with Dal, Manet didn't skip a beat. He then gave K the logical argument as to why: He wouldn't be able to afford it. Then, as he's leaving, Elodin takes the chance to encourage Kvothe to truly chase the wind while he's away.
So that's my take.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_12vm8h,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/12vm8h/my_elodin_theory_wmf_spoilers_maybe/,
1342378040.0,38,self.KingkillerChronicle,wlpg9,Any KKC fans here attending ComicCon and have recently lost a phone? Patrick Rothfuss may be looking for you...,43,5,9,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/wlpg9/any_kkc_fans_here_attending_comiccon_and_have/,"Via Pat's facebook page: [https://www.facebook.com/Patrick.Rothfuss](https://www.facebook.com/Patrick.Rothfuss)
>""Okay. Everybody, I need your help.
>
>I'm at ComicCon. I met a lovely Swedish fan who said that she'd flown out to the con mostly to see me.
>
>I said, Wow. Really?
>
>She said, Yes Really.
>
>So I got her phone number, and told her that when I had a spare couple hours I'd call her so we could grab coffee or something. My thought is, you come from Sweden to see me, I can spare time for coffee.
>
>But when I called her an our ago, someone else answered the phone. She'd left her phone on a bus, and a stranger had found it.
>
>So I tracked that person down and got the phone.
>
>So here's the deal. Swedish fan. I have your phone. I was an idiot, and I didn't write down your name, so I can't find you on facebook.
>
>You should call your phone, and we'll arrange to get it back to you. Plus maybe grab coffee.
>
>Or you should message me here on facebook, and we'll get in contact that way.
>
>Everyone else, could you Like this and share this around so she has a decent chance of seeing it?
>
>Or, if you know who this is, can you send her a message to let her know what's up?
>
>Thanks everyone,
>
>pat""
",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,True,t3_wlpg9,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/wlpg9/any_kkc_fans_here_attending_comiccon_and_have/,
1340813834.0,39,imgur.com,vovls,Mola,46,7,15,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/vovls/mola/,,,False,http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.com/rjkTWhA_TW8rPVg5.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,False,t3_vovls,http://imgur.com/a/WaCnn#QAf1b,
1372444918.0,38,grimoakpress.com,1h9iz0,Rothfuss has a new short story set in Four Corners!,49,11,18,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1h9iz0/rothfuss_has_a_new_short_story_set_in_four_corners/,,,False,http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/4WqxagzR7wWeoR-g.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1h9iz0,http://grimoakpress.com/2012/08/unfettered-edited-by-shawn-speakman/,
1364176123.0,40,self.KingkillerChronicle,1ay59h,My thoughts on Denna and the Chandrian,50,10,48,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1ay59h/my_thoughts_on_denna_and_the_chandrian/,"Alright, this might end up being kind of long.
As JWrundle pointed out, the signs are listed: Blue Flame, Rust, Cold/Black Eyes, Rot, Mute, Blight (presumably failed crops, not rotting wood), and Haliax's Shadows. That makes only six Chandrian w/o Haliax, guessing the last sign is still rabies, because kvothe gets told by the girl 'a man getting bitten by a dog'.
Secondly about the Chandrian, im certain that they are ex-emperors from the time of the Amyr empire. In the second book, toward the end of Chapter 14, Kvothe mentions a book that states this. He disregards it out of hand, but really it makes a lot of sense. Haliax was forged in a time of turmoil and war right? And many empires had fallen, it fits. Further, its a counterpoint to the seven angels created by Aleph/Tehlu.
Ahhh, guess Mr ash and cinder arent the same. It is logical, but perhaps too much so. Common answer is Bredon = Mr.Ash.
Haliax tells Cinder that he is but a tool in his hand, or some such. My best guess at the 'plan' of the Chandrian is to complete Haliax's revenge on the world. He went mad at the loss of Lyra and destroyed Myr Tariniel.
Lastly, The Chandrian must be connected to the waystones somehow. In the Children's chant it mentions ""Stand alone, Standing stone"". No idea what theyre going to be used for, but my guess is that they become important.
Now, its pretty obvious that Denna is pretty wicked. Some of the peculiar things ive noticed are as follows:
She can speak in the Adem hand-sign-language. It mentions her making and odd fidgeting motion when talking to kvothe, where he notices her missing ring. Also what really makes me think this is in Rothfuss's phrasing. He repeats a lot of phrases in his writing between different characters. When Kvothe first meets one of the Adem, he notices 'an odd fidgeting with his hands'. Its mentioned a couple times being done by Denna after she gets a compliment from Kvothe, so it would make sense there. And then Kvothe notices the ring gone, so i dont think it was her habit of messing with her ring; thats just what he notices gone.
She can do the Knot-tying language
""Its my job to notice things about you""
Denna is old. Really old. I think she may be related to the 'Singers' (on account of her voice), or perhaps one of the angels: ""Fair Geisa, who had a hundred suitors in Belen before the walls fell. The first woman to know the unasked-for touch of man."" fits her pretty well. Especially with her complaining about men all having the same 'playbook' and whatnot. Or, she may be a spy for Haliax, hard to say if shes on the good side or the bad from the first two books. There is the problem of their meeting though. Denna seems pretty genuinely lost in purpose, just scraping by. Its shown too much to be just a cover. My best explanation is that shes a sort of 'sleeper agent' and the peculiarities are just subconscious, of perhaps if she is a spy for Haliax, she got possessed after meeting Kvothe. (Again, why not start watching him while he was in Tarbean? Why wait?)
Edit 1: Kvothe: No huge revelations other that whats obvious, he fucked up and is depressed. Just that Kote means disaster. Its from something Kilvin said, only picked it up the second time through. In fact, Rothfuss's phrasing ""The man who called himself Kote"" *The man who called himself Disaster* is pretty damn clever
Ill add more as i keep reading, but this is what has jumped out at me so far.
What do you guys think? Any details i missed?",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1364243164.0,,,True,t3_1ay59h,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1ay59h/my_thoughts_on_denna_and_the_chandrian/,
1363743843.0,36,self.KingkillerChronicle,1amvrf,Denna's Patron Theory (Spoilers All),39,3,16,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1amvrf/dennas_patron_theory_spoilers_all/,"Has anyone thought that instead of Denna's patron being a chandrian, he is actually an Amyr?
Kvothe says that her song for her patron is the same story that his father ""started out on"" before he moved to the chandrian. What if the Amyr are trying to draw them out (or at least Haliax) and are using Denna in a way that will ultimately get her killed.
One of the themes of WMF is that the lines aren't some black and white and the Amyr aren't necessarily storybook heroes. (Duke of Gebea) Their creed is ""for greater good"" and using a poor girl merely looking for a sponsor in an almost experimental way that in all probability will get her killed seems suitably fitting for what we know of them.
Perhaps the Amyr are actually what started Arliden searching for that story as well. Experiment 1 - traveling troupe, song about chandrian; dead. Experiment 2 - young girl, slightly altered version of Lanre; ongoing... Also fits with the Duke of Gebea idea.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1amvrf,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1amvrf/dennas_patron_theory_spoilers_all/,
1358995178.0,38,m.youtube.com,175yuv,Tinker tanner while we're in the topic of songs for the book ,42,4,6,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/175yuv/tinker_tanner_while_were_in_the_topic_of_songs/,,,False,http://e.thumbs.redditmedia.com/sufg7eRt_h0ARaO4.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_175yuv,http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B_Jbzl2Vkv8,
1353697954.0,37,youtube.com,13ofez,Sword and Laser Author's Guide to Patrick Rothfuss,42,5,7,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/13ofez/sword_and_laser_authors_guide_to_patrick_rothfuss/,,,False,http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/aWjYhte4aVVk0z1H.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_13ofez,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft79kUBxbq4&feature=g-u-u,
1349779977.0,37,self.KingkillerChronicle,116ux5,How the hell is this going to come even close to wrapping up in one book? Looking for ideas.,40,3,31,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/116ux5/how_the_hell_is_this_going_to_come_even_close_to/,"I mean seriously - he writes *massive* books, but I can't see how he's going to tie things up in one book.
There are YEARS to cover.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,edema-ruh,True,t3_116ux5,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/116ux5/how_the_hell_is_this_going_to_come_even_close_to/,
1337277203.0,41,tor.com,tryku,Patrick Rothfuss answers fan questions from Jo Walton's reread of the series!,44,3,26,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/tryku/patrick_rothfuss_answers_fan_questions_from_jo/,,,False,http://c.thumbs.redditmedia.com/NbEoFPos7xLLD-Xn.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_tryku,http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/05/rothfuss-reread-pat-answers-the-admissions-questions,
1375561669.0,34,self.KingkillerChronicle,1jn600,Kote's darn Box.,39,5,18,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1jn600/kotes_darn_box/,"Hi there!
After re-reading The Name of the Wind and The Wise Man's Fear a good few times, I was wondering about something concerning Kote's Box.
It has been a widespread believe that Kote's Box is similar to the Box which Jax used to capture the Moon - and on some other source (I believe in a Story around Tamborlin the great) mentioned that such a Box would have 3 layers, something like Steel, Glass and Copper.
When Kote asks Bast how he would open the Box and Bast Fails at it he leaves the room, and Kote gets out 2 Keys he had hidden outside of his window. He still doesn't manage to open the Box because he lacks 1 key.
Now I read the first book over and over and came to the part when he first meets Auri.
Auri has a strange air about herself anyway, since Kvothe came up with her Name on a hunch (he thought it was a Siaru Translation, which, as Elodin told him, was wrong.)
The important part is that the first present Auri ever gives Kvothe to their Meetings is a key - and when he asks her ""What does it unlock?"" she answers ""The Moon"".
At the early stage of the book this looked like just some cute nonsense we get used to from Auri, but looking back at it, maybe it is not.
What do you think about this?",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1jn600,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1jn600/kotes_darn_box/,
1375411317.0,40,self.KingkillerChronicle,1jjg2h,"So, this is what a copper jot looks like.",43,3,14,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1jjg2h/so_this_is_what_a_copper_jot_looks_like/,http://kkc.wikia.com/wiki/Jot,,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,amyr,True,t3_1jjg2h,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1jjg2h/so_this_is_what_a_copper_jot_looks_like/,
1374953276.0,41,self.KingkillerChronicle,1j6atk,Just finished reading Wise Man's Fear. I think I missed a lot of things.,44,3,12,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1j6atk/just_finished_reading_wise_mans_fear_i_think_i/,"As the title suggests, I just finished reading Day 2, and then came over to this subreddit to see what everyone was talking about. As I started clicking on different links and theories, I realized, I have no idea what the hell anyone is talking about. Did I miss something major?? Is there a breakdown of popular theories that I can read and get up to speed with everyone else on this subreddit?",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1j6atk,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1j6atk/just_finished_reading_wise_mans_fear_i_think_i/,
1368580388.0,33,self.KingkillerChronicle,1ecqzj,"Regarding Denna? ""See a woman pale as snow? Silent come and silent go."" [Spoilers]",40,7,42,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1ecqzj/regarding_denna_see_a_woman_pale_as_snow_silent/,"I'm re-reading the series (yet again) now, and I've just come upon the start of the climax of NotW.
Right when Kvothe realizes that the decaying wood and rusted metal at the Mauthen farm means that the Chandrian have been there, he and Denna recite this little verse together. Let me give it to you in context a bit. They had been discussing the blue flame, and Kvothe had just pointed out how everything that was new at the farm was decaying:
>""What do you think happened?""
>She looked at me for a long moment before responding. ""Something bad. I've never seen a demon, and I don't ever expect to. But I've never seen the King of Vint either...""
>""Do you know that children's song?"" Denna looked at me blankly, so I sang:
>*""When the hearthfire turns to blue,
What to do? What to do?
Run outside. Run and hide.""*
>*""When your bright sword turns to rust?
Who to trust? Who to trust?
Stand alone. Standing stone""*
>Denna grew paler as she realized what I was implying. She nodded and chanted the chorus softly to herself:
>*See a woman pale as snow?
Silent come and silent go.
What's their plan? What's their plan?
Chandrian. Chandrian.*
Now, I'm aware that the implication that Denna may be a Chandrian has been discussed and over-discussed, but I want to draw your attention to a few things here. I would like to start off by saying that I do *not* think that Denna is a Chandrian. I think that there is little to no chance that she is one. However, I do believe that she has something to do with them, and not just via connection to Master Ash (who many believe to be Cinder).
First, pay attention to the fact that Kvothe begins by citing the relevant passages of the song. They had been discussing blue flame and rusted water pumps, then Denna interjects with a verse describing a pale woman coming and going silently. It is certainly possible that Denna finished the song to make the implication of the Chandrian clear, but I believe that the verse she sings is left there for the reader.
Denna is described as being ""pale as the moon."" We are all well aware of the fact that she tends to come and go with little or no warning. She fits into the first two lines that she sings in the same way the moon fits into the sky. Those lines absolutely define some of the key attributes of Denna.
It is my opinion that Denna, wittingly or not, is some sort of harbinger of the Chandrian, or of major events unfolding around the Chandrian. Like the blue flame is (seemingly) Cinder's sign, or like the shadow-hame is Haliax's sign, somehow Denna herself is a sign of the Chandrian.
Let me know what you think. Sorry this was such a lengthy post.
TL;DR: Denna is a sign of the Chandrian, and may be inextricably connected with their plan, whether she knows it or not.
Edit: as Grey-Dalcenti points out [here](http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1ecqzj/regarding_denna_see_a_woman_pale_as_snow_silent/c9z1aa2), Cyphus is blue-flame, whereas Cinder is ""Chill and dark of eye""",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1368590302.0,,Lute,True,t3_1ecqzj,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1ecqzj/regarding_denna_see_a_woman_pale_as_snow_silent/,
1368126737.0,36,kickstarter.com,1e0oym,'The Name of the Wind' Kickstarter Playing Cards 35% funded,43,7,14,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1e0oym/the_name_of_the_wind_kickstarter_playing_cards_35/,,,False,http://e.thumbs.redditmedia.com/JaTZjn_4w6V-5QjL.jpg,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_1e0oym,http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460165270/the-name-of-the-wind-playing-cards?ref=search,
1368048247.0,34,self.KingkillerChronicle,1dyhpk,One of my favorite quotes (spoilers both),40,6,8,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1dyhpk/one_of_my_favorite_quotes_spoilers_both/,"""I don't have the slightest idea what the Lethani really is! It's not a path, but it helps choose a path. It's the simplest way, but it is not easy to see. Honestly, you people sound like drunk cartographers.""
-Kvothe to Vashet",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,wind,True,t3_1dyhpk,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1dyhpk/one_of_my_favorite_quotes_spoilers_both/,
1357520756.0,37,readlists.com,163acb,"Hey guys, I made a Readlist out of the Rothfuss Reread, which lets you read it on your Kindle/iPad/etc. Thought you might like it!",38,1,5,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/163acb/hey_guys_i_made_a_readlist_out_of_the_rothfuss/,,,False,default,t5_2smxb,False,,,False,t3_163acb,http://readlists.com/846cad0f/,
1371585703.0,36,self.KingkillerChronicle,1glu5t,"Do any of you have any Kingkiller wallpapers, or maybe some quotes I could use to make some?",42,6,53,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1glu5t/do_any_of_you_have_any_kingkiller_wallpapers_or/,"So, I just finished Wise Man's Fear a few days ago and I'm absolutely in love with this series.
I'm looking for some good wallpapers for my desktop, but the only one that I found and really liked is the picture we have on the sidebar. So, can any of you share some with me if you have some?
Also, I can use photoshop fairly well so I can make some if you have any good quotes from the series! I will post any that I make, as well. ",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_1glu5t,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1glu5t/do_any_of_you_have_any_kingkiller_wallpapers_or/,
1366789199.0,36,self.KingkillerChronicle,1czxag,Bredon theory. A Beutiful Game. Spoilers both.,44,8,47,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1czxag/bredon_theory_a_beutiful_game_spoilers_both/,"Alright. I'm on another reread of the books and I'm reading through the part when Kvothe is in Severen and hanging out with Bredon.
I'm gonna start off from the start. We all know there is the theory that Bredon may be Cinder. I'm building off that. So to start: When K first meets Bredon, he describes him as dressed in ""ash"" cold and ""dark coal."" This right here is a good give away that it's Cinder, as ""cinder"" is likened to ash and coal.
Another thing that catches my eye is that in their first meeting, Bredon says something like ""oh yes. I will enjoy **playing with you.**"" At this point in the book within context it is lead to mean ""playing"" as in the game tak and/or court gossip, but from another point of view (if you consider Bredon as Cinder) he is talking about maneuvering Kvothe or altering his path in a similar way that the Cthae is, or just talking about foiling his plans because he knows or has an idea about what he is to become (as I believe Skarpi did when he called out his name in Tarbean.)
This is not my main point tonight, though. Tonight I want to talk about the ""beutiful game"" bit. This has always caused me pause when reading the books. When reading again this time I thought of something I hadn't previously. Before I get into that, I just want to point out a few spots of mystery:
* Bredon has a staff that has a *silver* wolfs head. I can't find any relation to that. If you do, please tell me.
* Bredon seems to make a point of not giving his rank while making it seem like it is in K's best interest, as in ""oh what ring should you use when you call on me? Well since I haven't given you my rank and I don't know yours, we should both just use iron since that's equal status"" blah blah. Bredon could have sent a ring to him requesting presence. I believe his excuse to ""give an old man a dramatic entrance"" is really just an excuse to not give whatever rank/social standing to Kvothe.
* Bredon has a staff/walking stick just like Master Ash.
kv* Bredon is rumored to be seen participating in ""pagan rituals"" on the outskirts of town (I personally believe this is him travelling between the wastone (maybe the same one K and Denna sit at when she plays her song for him) or communicating with the other Chandrian)
Anyway, again I am digressing.
**My real point here tonight:**
Chapter 67 in WMF, page 446.
This is when Bredon beats K several more times at Tak and K thinks he is getting close to winning. Bredon gets angry and shows him how he isn't even *close* to beating him. And I quote:
""You've been going easy on me.""
""No,"" Bredon said with a grim look. ""That is far gone from the point I am trying to make.""
""What then?""
""I am trying to make you understand the game,"" he said. ""The entire game, not just fiddling about with **stones**. The point is not to play as tight as you can. The point is to be bold. To be dangerous. Be elegant.""
Here's where it gets good now:
'
*He tapped the board with two fingers.* ""Any man that's half awake can spot a trap that's laid for him. But to stride in boldly with a plan to turn it on its ear, that is a marvelous thing."" He smiled without any of the grimness leaving his face. ""To set a trap and know someone will come in wary, ready with a trick of their own, then beat them. That is twice marvelous.""
Okay. This is what struck me. The whole setting a trap and knowing someone will come in wary and still beating them. Supposing Bredon is in fact Cinder, do you think it's possible that the whole bandit camp raid was actually a trap for Kvothe? Maybe just to.. I dunno, confirm that Kvothe was what they think he was or something? Think about it. Bredon talks about setting a trap with someone coming in wary and then beating them. Then, Kvothe finds the bandits (presumably Bredon/Cinder knew that the Maer would send him or even influenced that decision) and he goes in wary, but it's just a trap. Not a trap to catch him, but to spot him/find him out. Cinder literally sees that Kvothe is there and takes the fuck off.
So my question to you is do you think Cinder (one of the most cruel if not the most cruel of the Chandrian) is considering this playing a beutiful game and having a fun way of ""playing with"" Kvothe (see above, Bredon literally said he'd ""have fun playing with you"") and is playing with him much as he is playing a beutiful game of tak?
Let me know your thoughts. Thanks guys.
Edit: the reason I bolded ""stones"" is because I thought it was interesting that he may be inadvertently referring to waystones/doors of stone and fiddling arond with them, which is hilarious because he wouldn't want him fiddling with them because it may lead to his demise.
Edit 2: I was quite drunk when I wrote this last night, so I'm sorry if it's a bit rambly. Also, I changed every spelling of ""beautiful"" to ""beutiful"" because That_frog_curtis was being such a D about it. Cheers!",,False,self,t5_2smxb,1366825507.0,,wind,True,t3_1czxag,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1czxag/bredon_theory_a_beutiful_game_spoilers_both/,
1362409243.0,34,self.KingkillerChronicle,19n1ui,Elodin and Kvothe (Spoilers All),41,7,28,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/19n1ui/elodin_and_kvothe_spoilers_all/,"So, when Kvothe arrives at the university, Simmon and Wilem are speaking with Kvothe a few days later about Elodin's having previously been Chancellor. They say that nobody speaks of the reason why Elodin had to be locked up. This lock-up occurred less than five years ago: Kvothe has taken three years to get to the university, which suggests that the event that caused Elodin to go temporarily crazy may have occurred around the same time that Kvothe's parents were killed. Wilem and Simmon are careful to say that ""He used to be Chancellor five years ago"", and then later that he went crazy a while after that.
I have a theory that perhaps Elodin may have gone crazy as a result of what happened to Kvothe's parents. It's clear at least one of the Masters (Lorren) knows of Kvothe's father. Perhaps there is some connection.",,False,self,t5_2smxb,False,,,True,t3_19n1ui,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/19n1ui/elodin_and_kvothe_spoilers_all/,
1349991186.0,33,reddit.com,11bxrh,"What do we know at the end of ""Wise Man's Fear,"" Book 2 of the Kingkiller Chronicles? (by request, cross-post from r/Fantasy)",39,6,3,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/11bxrh/what_do_we_know_at_the_end_of_wise_mans_fear_book/,,,False,default,t5_2smxb,False,,blue-flame,False,t3_11bxrh,http://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/11bnfi/what_do_we_know_at_the_end_of_wise_mans_fear_book/,
1340534022.0,36,self.KingkillerChronicle,vir8u,Two characters I think are members of the Amyr. (long),42,6,29,http://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/vir8u/two_characters_i_think_are_members_of_the_amyr/,"I apologize if these are old theories, but here are my thoughts. I could be very wrong.
Loren is Amyr. When Kvothe is talking to Simmon in Tomes and showing him the book of physiology from the duke who killed all those people, he puts out a theory that the Amyr still exist, and they are still working on their goals whilst actively concealing their existence.
1- If you try to remove yourself from history, then the library at the University is a logical place to put one of your members.
2- There are the agents of the archives who go out and hunt for books. They meet one in the waiting room. The gentleman out to chase down books is armed and has the look of an adventurer rather than a scholar. I get that roads are dangerous, but the book collector is painted as glamorous, and Kvothe takes note of him. And just the way they mentioned the maps and all of the effort that went into tracking books, it just seemed like overkill for book buying, but perhaps suitable it was suitable for tracking specific books and recovering/eliminating them. This could be an extended function of the Amyr's goals to hide themselves.
3- Loren keeps Kvothe out of the library for a year, or plans to until Elodin intervenes. He also straight up discourages him from researching the Chandrian and the Amyr. It is under the guise of not keeping Kvothe from appearing childish, but why would the head of the Archives go to a brand new student just to spare him some teasing from other students? That's two instances where Loren seems eager to keep Kvothe away from finding out more about the Amyr. And twice where the action is above and beyond what one might expect.
4- Loren is renowned for having a hell of a poker face. Or rather being emotionless. If you want someone to infiltrate the university as an Amyr and stay secretive you would need someone who is a tremendous actor and who is always in control of their emotions.