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[Feature] Anonymize warns/mutes #100

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eepykate opened this issue Apr 27, 2021 · 5 comments
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[Feature] Anonymize warns/mutes #100

eepykate opened this issue Apr 27, 2021 · 5 comments
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enhancement New feature or request maybe For issues that have not been decided if they should be done or not Moderation Related to mod actions with the bot

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eepykate commented Apr 27, 2021

[please apply 'maybe' & 'moderation' labels]

Please describe the issue.

Mods occasionally get singled-out for an action by a particular type of member, even if the other mods would have done the same thing, or even if there was a poll.

Proposed feature

The bot could delete the mod's !warn/!mute message and repost the reason/duration/etc.

  • if the mod pings, the user may still get a notification. (user error anyway)
  • it may still happen, albeit less often. As the mod (who might be) in chat can get blamed - even if it was another mod.
  • this may make "power abusers" less obvious, but I'd say that the other mods should be the ones handling this, and this shouldn't affect the mod-log channel.

Example:

mod [deleted by bot]: !warn 199492634438270977 bad person, basically Wu Zetian.
bot [not an embed so the ping works]: <@199492634438270977> has been warned for the 47th time: bad person, basically Wu Zetian.

(wording could of course be way better, but I'm not a linguist)


A possible alternative may be for the bot to DM warns/mutes, rather than saying publicly. I think this is a bad option, but at least worth saying.

  • This may sometimes cause less drama (onlookers not reading the full context and getting outraged because it sounds more minor than it is, bad reason, etc), but it's also less of a "hey other people, don't do this"
  • It's also rather frequent for people to disable DMs.
@eepykate eepykate added the enhancement New feature or request label Apr 27, 2021
@elkowar elkowar added maybe For issues that have not been decided if they should be done or not Moderation Related to mod actions with the bot labels Apr 27, 2021
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elkowar commented Apr 27, 2021

Not sure if I'm a fan of the idea to take steps into the direction of hiding who did something - We try to be as transparent and open with how we act as possible, and this would actively work against that. I understand the concern tho, it should definitely be considered

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It isn't a common issue admittedly, but yeah, it's at least worth considering.

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elkowar commented Apr 28, 2021

Do you have specific examples as to when this was an issue? Even if the specific person was angry at a specific mod, I'm pretty sure I dont remember any case where more than one person from the community started to dislike a specific mod as a result of that kind of action.

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@elkowar

I dont remember any case where more than one person from the community started to dislike a specific mod as a result of that kind of action.

True, I guess.

The ones that come to mind were specifically the person with the action getting done to them getting mad (davidd, thatonecalc).

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I also agree with elkocar

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