No communication outside of ~zod

[abliss]

1. No communication between denizens of ~zod and denizens of ~lyd.

   ~lyd/try=> :hi ~zod
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.20..8ffa [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~lidsug-sipdyn]

   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.22..304e [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~bilsel-hidser]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.22..304e [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~dapdex-balwel]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.22..304e [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~sovfen-dishet]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.22..304e [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~mapsyt-bonrys]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.22..304e [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~tipnel-dopwer]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.22..304e [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~tabryx-misnym]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.36..c22a [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~miplux-sovdyr]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.36..c22a [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~lidsug-sipdyn]

   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.38..33da [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~bilsel-hidser]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.38..33da [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~dapdex-balwel]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.38..33da [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~sovfen-dishet]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.38..33da [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~mapsyt-bonrys]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.38..33da [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~tipnel-dopwer]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.00.38..33da [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~tabryx-misnym]

2. No communication within ~lyd, which should not depend on ~zod

   ~laglyd/try=> :hi ~lyd
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.24..919a [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~miplux-sovdyr]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.24..919a [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~lidsug-sipdyn]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.24..919a [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~bilsel-hidser]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.24..919a [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~dapdex-balwel]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.24..919a [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~sovfen-dishet]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.24..919a [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~mapsyt-bonrys]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.24..919a [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~tipnel-dopwer]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.24..919a [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~tabryx-misnym]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.40..93fa [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~miplux-sovdyr]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.40..93fa [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~lidsug-sipdyn]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.40..93fa [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~bilsel-hidser]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.40..93fa [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~dapdex-balwel]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.40..93fa [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~sovfen-dishet]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.40..93fa [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~mapsyt-bonrys]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.40..93fa [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~tipnel-dopwer]
   [%send ~2013.10.1..15.04.40..93fa [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.0] ~tabryx-misnym]

3. Cannot reprogram submarines to be hosted on ~lyd

I hacked ++ sein so that my submarine would route through ~lyd. The result:

vere: urbit home is /home/abliss/proj/urbit/urb
loom: loaded 5MB
time: ~2013.10.1..15.58.20..2dce
ames: on localhost, UDP 41706.
http: live on 8080
rest: checkpoint to event 148
rest: old 0v1i.rgnno, new 0v16.kg445

---------------- playback complete----------------
: /~misnum-nocnex-difnup-pidrec--navrel-torhut-harsyx-nibrep/arvo/3/ames/hoon
~misnum-nocnex-difnup-pidrec--navrel-torhut-harsyx-nibrep/try=>
[%vane %a /~misnum-nocnex-difnup-pidrec--navrel-torhut-harsyx-nibrep/arvo/~2013.10.1..15.58.26..feeb/ames/hoon ~tognev-macbyr]

~misnum-nocnex-difnup-pidrec--navrel-torhut-harsyx-nibrep/try=>
[%send ~2013.10.1..15.58.31..94fb [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~lormet-dastux]
[%send ~2013.10.1..15.58.31..94fb [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~sibwer-napsev]
ames: czar lyd.urbit.org: ip .184.106.69.39

~misnum-nocnex-difnup-pidrec--navrel-torhut-harsyx-nibrep/try=> :hi ~lyd
[%send ~2013.10.1..15.58.47..9849 [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~lormet-dastux]
[%send ~2013.10.1..15.58.47..9849 [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~sibwer-napsev]
~misnum-nocnex-difnup-pidrec--navrel-torhut-harsyx-nibrep/try=> (sein ~misnum-nocnex-difnup-pidrec--navrel-torhut-harsyx-nibrep)
~lyd
~misnum-nocnex-difnup-pidrec--navrel-torhut-harsyx-nibrep/try=> :hi ~lyd
[%send ~2013.10.1..15.59.03..9e95 [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~lormet-dastux]
[%send ~2013.10.1..15.59.03..9e95 [%if p=0 q=.0.0.1.205] ~sibwer-napsev]

Meanwhile ~lyd, with its network debug activated, shows nothing incoming.

[abliss]

FYI, I did check my firewall. I can run netcat over a UDP socket on port 42420, listening on the server (~lyd end) and connecting from my (NATed) laptop (submarine end). The problem doesn't seem to be any different when running everyone on the same machine, or when using vere -L.

[ghost]

I'm pretty sure this can be closed, because we've got ~net and ~del running in the current continuity, and ships can communicate across carriers.