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Link Dumps 2018 #269

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bhaugen opened this issue Jan 26, 2018 · 39 comments
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Link Dumps 2018 #269

bhaugen opened this issue Jan 26, 2018 · 39 comments

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bhaugen commented Jan 26, 2018

Really annoying blog with really annoying nag popups, but good content for understanding shipping documents.

https://shippingandfreightresource.com/when-does-a-bill-of-lading-become-a-contract-of-carriage/

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bhaugen commented Feb 1, 2018

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gcassel commented Feb 1, 2018

COAR Controlled Vocabularies

With Resource Types!

Very interesting; thanks for sharing. The work is solid, extensive, and open sourced.

There are some quirky points in a quick viewing.. For example, their resource types are (implicitly) all media resource types, due to their focus on "research resources". Thus, they don't (directly) cover representations of physical or social resources, as Value Flows (and Modular Organization Terminology) attempt to. Also, it'll be interesting to see if they do or don't formally relate the concept of edition to the concept of version (as I do.)

With that said, it's a valuable resource that could be plugged into or adapted into open works moving forward. I've saved the links for my Community Resource Description Framework prototypes-- thanks for sharing!

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bhaugen commented Feb 4, 2018

The category theory posse has recently featured two different universal programming languages with blockchains. I ask here, are they composable?
https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2018/02/04/pyrofex/#comment-103189

I think if you know category theory, that is somewhere between ironic and hilarious...but then I don't really know category theory yet.

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bhaugen commented Feb 15, 2018

open citations

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bhaugen commented Feb 17, 2018

Open Digital Rights Language

Quick reconnoiter:

  • Their Asset is vf:EconomicResource
  • Their Party is foaf:Agent

More to come...and please help map.

[edit - responding to @fosterlynn 's comments] what am I asking for help with here?

Just to map from ODRL to VF and see if we want to use it. I don't know yet that we do, but it is about rights to resources, which we have discussed in VF before.

There is also a black hole hidden? in W3C-ODRL which I don't think we want to fall into. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/07/amid-unprecedented-controversy-w3c-greenlights-drm-web

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bhaugen commented Feb 19, 2018

Commitment networks!

It has four nodes, which represent agents... The edges between these notes describe relationships between these agents. Some of these relationships are ‘commitments’.

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gcassel commented Feb 23, 2018

Some of these relationships are ‘commitments’.

They also refer to relationships via communications channels. A communication channel is a resource. Lately I'm trying to finesse some ideas (and hopefully practices) regarding agents' ability to commit to the governance of resources (including channels!) as peer-members with one vote each in consent-based constitutional decisions.

I hope to follow up later with relevant shared media items.

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bhaugen commented Feb 25, 2018

https://aos.github.io/2018/02/24/understanding-dijkstras-algorithm/

Useful for traversing flow graphs, especially for transportation. See also valueflows/django-vocabulator#7

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gcassel commented Mar 1, 2018

Haven't read this yet but should be relevant @bhaugen and @fosterlynn : https://primer.commonstransition.org/4-more/5-elements/case-studies/case-study-sensorica

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bhaugen commented Mar 1, 2018

https://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2018/02/structured-data-on-commons-is-the-most-important-development-in-wikimedias-usability/

Wikimedia Commons is one of the most important sources of Creative Commons licensed media online. But it has a huge problem: it’s a total mess.

One of the biggest complaints about Commons which discourages people from using it is that it’s incredibly hard to find what you’re looking for. People upload files and fill out some information about their content, but not in a particularly systematic or structured way, with minimal automated assistance.

This means that when you try to search for something on Commons, you’ll be presented with a huge array of files with minimal relevance to your search. You can’t even really search for media by date. Which date would you be searching for anyway? The date the media was created, the date it was modified or the date it was uploaded? Without systematic organisation of media on Commons, it will continue to represent a disorderly and overgrown garden that desperately needs work to give it some order.

This is where the Structured Data on Commons (SDoC) project comes in.

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bhaugen commented Apr 4, 2018

twelf

http://twelf.org/wiki/Main_Page

Twelf is a language used to specify, implement, and prove properties of deductive systems such as programming languages and logics.

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gcassel commented Apr 5, 2018

FYI, my prototype Inclusive Design Cycle has been slowly developing. It currently feels substantial and stable enough to share as an informal RFC here in Value Flows, and also as an informal FYI publicly.

As the document's intro states, Inclusive Design Cycle functions as the sequential creative process in a Conversation for Action to develop and pursue any specific goal within the Resource Development and Support System model. Inclusive Design also functions as a suggested model for developing inclusive proposals in Agreement-Based Governance.

BTW note that the linked Resource Development and Support System model does not yet illustrate recent revisions to the Inclusive Design Cycle. Revising that RDSS visual diagram is laborious, so I'll update it after Inclusive Design Cycle feels more stable and temporarily "finished".

I realize of course that my personal design of Conversation for Action-- with interlocked Inclusive Dialogue Cycle and Inclusive Design Cycle-- is quite different from previous Conversation for Action models which focus on buyer and seller; i.e. exchanges between potentially "neutral" parties who may require contracts. Plus I'm more focused on Inclusive Design Cycle and the broader RDSS model than I am on Conversation for Action per se. Frankly I'm quite overworked, so I don't expect to directly coordinate/integrate my model with previous Conversation for Action models unless that seems very important for VF. Of course, I would carefully consider any ideas, suggestions or requests!

Also note, I'm sharing this in Link Dumps because it doesn't seem very relevant to other active Issues; however, I'd support efforts to coordinate this with anything else such as #266 .

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bhaugen commented Apr 5, 2018

@gcassel you been busy on this! A lot to look at, and it looks like you are still actively changing it.

I think it would be good to start a new issue thread to discuss this. I may also comment on the document itself.

One comment here:

previous Conversation for Action models which focus on buyer and seller;

Conversation for Action originally came from Stafford Beer and Fernando Flores work on Cybersyn in the Allende government in Chile, which of course was aborted by a US-financed coup.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stafford_Beer#Cybersyn

It was not originally about buyers and sellers, but about agreements between production and distribution organizations in an economy that was trying to evolve to some kind of mutual-coordination (not command-and-control) socialism.

Got reformulated and formalized for buyers and sellers when Flores and Terry Winograd started a software company in the US after Flores got out of prison in Chile.

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gcassel commented Apr 5, 2018

Thanks @bhaugen for clarifying some of the history of Conversation for Action! I may have read some of that before, but I have a lousy memory.

Per your feedback, I guess I'll turn my previous comment here into a new issue thread: Inclusive Design Cycle

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bhaugen commented May 3, 2018

https://dock.io/how-it-works

dock.io is a decentralized data exchange protocol that lets people connect their profiles, reputations and experiences across the web with privacy and security.

The Consequences of Closed Networks
A person’s profile and information lives on hundreds of apps which are all closed networks and centralized sources. These apps control data at their will, while users and other companies are left with limited opportunities.

Capable of Powering All Consumer Apps
The dock.io protocol is low in the tech stack making it capable of powering data for every consumer app in the world.

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bhaugen commented May 5, 2018

Universal Viewer:
http://universalviewer.io/
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YmBvOZhokhkpn_dHKzJR5gH4W7qV0ncVY_fjzaPhyws/edit

IIIF Presentation is like a markup document for digital objects (books, manuscripts, radio plays, TV shows, terracotta jugs), except it uses
{json-ld} instead of <tags>. We call them “IIIF Manifests”.

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bhaugen commented May 6, 2018

http://www.compositionality-journal.org/

Compositionality describes and quantifies how complex things can be assembled out of simpler parts. Compositionality, the journal, is a new diamond open-access journal for research using compositional ideas, most notably of a category-theoretic origin, in any discipline. Topics may concern foundational structures, an organizing principle, or a powerful tool. Example areas include but are not limited to: computation, logic, physics, chemistry, engineering, linguistics, and cognition.

The first issue of the journal is slated for publication in (northern) summer 2018.

In the meantime, community consultation is taking place on reddit. Please join the discussion!

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http://help.zenodo.org/#versioning

What is DOI versioning?

DOI versioning allows you to:

    edit/update the record’s files after they have been published.
    cite a specific version of a record.
    cite all of versions of a record.

How does DOI versioning work?

When you publish an upload on Zenodo for the first time, we register two DOIs:

    a DOI representing the specific version of your record.
    a DOI representing all of the versions of your record.

Afterwards, we register a DOI for every new version of your upload.

...

Something like above might come helpful with cite action.

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almereyda commented May 25, 2018

https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-spec/

Decentralized Identifier (DID)

A globally unique identifier that does not require a centralized registration authority because it is registered with distributed ledger technology or other form of decentralized network. The generic format of a DID is defined in this specification. A specific DID scheme is defined in a DID method specification.

Found via the https://sovrin.org/ white paper.

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Decentralized Identifier (DID)

Thanks @almereyda , very timely. Are you thinking of going in that direction in any of your work?

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    Drummond Reed (Evernym)
    Manu Sporny (Digital Bazaar)
    Dave Longley (Digital Bazaar)
    Christopher Allen (Blockstream)
    Ryan Grant
    Markus Sabadello (Danube Tech)

I recall Christopher Allen (Blockstream) commenting on one of VF issues. Both Drummond Reed (Evernym) and Markus Sabadello (Danube Tech) come from VRM - wikipedia:Vendor_relationship_management background.

https://vimeo.com/15038426

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bhaugen commented Jun 9, 2018

Open letter to the authors of http://www.mdpi.com/1911-8074/11/2/26/htm
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Thanks for the ValueFlows citation in your excellent paper...

...but you misunderstood a couple of factors that would make your article stronger.

  1. ValueFlows is the collective creation of a floating unorganized group of people, as you can see here: https://github.com/orgs/valueflows/people

And at least one key contributor is missing from that list. And a lot of the content came from Sensorica.

  1. It's not at all academic, although we do have an academic mentor of sorts, Bill McCarthy of Michigan State U. I don't even have a college degree. And am definitely not the main author.

This is a new day, and a new type of organization. so a more accurate citation might be the ValueFlows unorganization, or something like that.

Beyond that, though, I really enjoyed the paper. Best article I've seen so far on what is happening in this value-network space from a big company.

Thanks,
Bob Haugen

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I'm glad you enjoyed the article, and I'd like to use your comments as an opportunity to learn more.

  1. We may have different definitions of an organization (my definition would be a group of people coming together around a common purpose, whether or not there it is a registered legal entity. It's an organized group), and in the article we reference ValueFlows with respect to Open Value Accounting, not so much a defined organizational entity.

Could you elaborate on why you're calling it an unorganized group? Is this related to the legal connotation of "organization" or around the idea that ValueFlows has very loose ways of organizing, and is in a sense, unorganized (chaotic, flows)?

A lot of our content came from Sensorica because we were talking with Tibi, the founder, and therefore had better information to rely on from those conversations. However, I would be open and interested in learning about other open network projects going on. If you or any others would like to talk, propose a time. The more I understand, the more I can work to help open networks to proliferate. I am doing my best to understand new and better ways that people can organize so that society stops self destruction for the sake of money.

  1. I was not the author of the specific wording that references it as academic work, but believe that was written so because of its foundations on REA. I will pass the comment along to Andreas Freund, who was not part of the email thread.

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bhaugen commented Jun 12, 2018

@daniellestanko I got notified of your other response about the citation first, and so responded there first. But this is possibly a more interesting question.

Could you elaborate on why you're calling it an unorganized group? Is this related to the legal connotation of "organization" or around the idea that ValueFlows has very loose ways of organizing, and is in a sense, unorganized (chaotic, flows)?

Pretty close. Very loose. We hope not chaotic.

We try to work by rough consensus and have had some conversations about whether ValueFlows can even be called an organization. Some of us think yes, some think vehemently no, and since it does not affect the work, but would displease some valued contributors, we keep people and ourselves guessing.

But I will try get some agreement on a form of citation. If nothing comes of it before you need to publish next and want to cite again, @fosterlynn 's suggestion "ValueFlows project" seems fair.

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bhaugen commented Jul 4, 2018

effective standards work from Alex Russell, who has worked on a lot of standards committees.

I think we are doing a lot of what he advises.

I had the good luck to work with Alex a bit when he and I were working on JotSpot before Google bought and killed it. He was a delight to work with. Apparently he stuck with Google after the acquisition. I was just a consultant, didn't get anything from the buyout except that my consulting platform was dead...

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Happened to run into http://ontoology.linkeddata.es/ on Twitter. Did we use or know this already?

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Happened to run into http://ontoology.linkeddata.es/ on Twitter. Did we use or know this already?

Haven't run into it, looks interesting, will try it out! Thanks!

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Who else is thinking of Portable Linked Profiles here?

The Data Transfer Project makes it easy for people to transfer their data between online service providers. We are establishing a common framework, including data models and protocols, to enable direct transfer of data both into and out of participating online service providers.

https://github.com/google/data-transfer-project

https://datatransferproject.dev/

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Very late notice but in less than 3 hours this virtual summit will happen https://businessofblockchain.com/web/virtual-summits/blockchain-id some of the participants:

  • Christopher Allen (Blockchain Commons)
  • Manu Sporny (DigitalBazaar and Veres.One)
  • Drummond Reed (Sovrin Foundation)
  • Rouven Heck (Consensys)

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bhaugen commented Jul 24, 2018

@almereyda

Who else is thinking of Portable Linked Profiles here?

It's an aspect of the agent-centric architecture that @fosterlynn and I and others have been working on.

Here's an intro and more notes.

We're thinking of ActivityPub as one possible implementation, where every agent would have their own activitypub instance, which might be self-hosted or hosted by a service. In the service case, agents would want to be able to move their AP to another service or to their own server.

Would that fit into the Data Transfer Protocol?

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almereyda commented Sep 6, 2018

dazinism just shared this to #ecobytes:matrix.allmende.io:

and I've seen going around on Twitter:

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bhaugen commented Sep 19, 2018

Good article by @myriamboure of the Data Food Consortium and Open Food Network:
http://blogfr.p2pfoundation.net/2018/09/17/les-communs-le-modele-de-lapres-capitalisme-liberal/

I read it using a translator so might have missed some of the nuances, so I won't quote anything here. But all of Myriam's work seems closely related to what we are doing here.

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@bhaugen thanks for sharing :-) I actually translated the article: https://medium.com/@myriamboure/commons-the-model-of-post-liberal-capitalism-55375f052a22 if that can help.
Probably we would need to talk more in the months to come. There are interesting things happening, especially on "peer based standardization" processes facilitated by commoners ecosystem. I'll come back to you. Cheers!

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@myriamboure thanks very much for the translation! And really looking forward to talking more and finding out about "peer based standardization" - sounds very intriguing.....

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Friend @vmx was so friendly to share with me:

via https://twitter.com/vmx/status/1043655785883033600

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bhaugen commented Oct 25, 2018

I am currently pouring over Ian Grigg's work and writings:
http://www.iang.org/papers/

Focusing on these for now:

I'm posting this at least partly in case anybody wants to join me in some study and discussion.

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bhaugen commented Nov 11, 2018

https://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2018/11/07/github-universe-2018-low-key-revolutionary/

I think I have commented elsewhere in VF about Github Actions, which smell more like VF processes than a lot of workflow-ish event-condition-action handlers. But what I want to focus on here is this statement:

Modern software developers only want to live in 3 environments: their favorite code editor, Slack, and GitHub.

Well, that's some modern software devs. A lot of those I know use open alternatives to Slack by preference and are migrating out of github. But the minimal work environments applies to everybody.

In vf-apps some of us are developing a combination social and economic networking environment, which if we can add a code repo as SSB is doing with git-ssb and ActivityPub continues to try to do with PubGit, we can cut the number of environments to two: code editor and whatever the name of the software development VF-app becomes.

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almereyda commented Dec 20, 2018

https://github.com/BEICOOP/BEICPBLChallenge/blob/master/Phase3/Stakeholders_Roles/Designer.md made me think of @nogo10's post in #284 (comment)

Also the phase before seems to reflect it.

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almereyda commented Jan 26, 2019

Closing in favour of #422 .

Edit: Now valueflows/forum.valueflo.ws#128

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