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Nodes have also an elevation #418

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pyrog opened this issue May 5, 2024 · 6 comments
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Nodes have also an elevation #418

pyrog opened this issue May 5, 2024 · 6 comments

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@pyrog
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pyrog commented May 5, 2024

In France in moutains, we could have several node with the same name but with different elevations.

In practice operator don't manage "nodes" but they manage guideposts.
So we have several guidepost with the same tag name and different tag ele.
Currently we must handle this manually and this is error prone (merge name and ele value of the guidepost, add a separator)

Could you manage also the tag ele for nodes and use it automatically in the label of the node?

See KISS: keep it simple discussion in the wiki.

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pyrog commented May 5, 2024

Work also for saddles 😄

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pyrog commented May 5, 2024

Some examples in France (probably in other countries).

OSM id Name
281766176 Le Monolithe (1620 m)
858528077 Gare TGR 2700
955945080 Les Bigeards - 1050
955949438 Les Bigeards - 1060
1193834793 Les Chosalets 1150 m
1229520194 Les Essarts (338 m)
1232850005 Chanaz - La Passerelle - 230 m
1232850017 Chanaz - La Passerelle - 235 m
1321849939 Avrieux (1247 m)
1321850006 Avrieux (1248 m)
1371831052 Pierre-Percée 1205
1491244004 Au Dessus De Joiys - 650m
1491271554 Dolmen De L'Antillière - 760
1491276195 Col Des Mille Martyrs - 874 m
1491276223 Col du Pilori - 883 m
1688843043 Saint-Alban-des-Villards - 1110 m
1714988342 Les Bigeards - 1050
1906826530 Point 1321
2051364455 Ontex - 723 m
2051364459 Ontex - 720 m
2186779942 Le Grand Vivier - 735 m
2186780056 Chatvillard - 735 m
2402425818 Bois De Piantimey - 665m
2445986100 Le Rocharey - 690 m
2445986118 Croix de Tempêtat - 740m
2450253032 Les Balmettes - 564m
2450253059 Étang Des Chartreux - 830 m
2661597181 Ture - 507 m
2801930590 N. D. de la Salette (792 m)
2824025020 Sous La Ferme Michalet - 810m
3039717334 Mollard Gris (910 m)
3039717339 Mollard Gris (892 m)
3740213925 Sentier du Signal - 820 m
3773216027 Les Vincendières - 1860 m
3791987926 Sentier du Signal - 840 m
3833537745 Plateforme - 668 m
4359244757 Avrieux (1209 m)
5464698041 Circuit du Château 550 m
5832994673 Glaise 775 m
5832994676 Glaise 780 m
5854617184 Les Mouilles (1525 m)
7619758638 Circuit du Château 600 m
8125146428 La Grenonière Alt 1292m
8740443615 Plateforme - 667 m
9313276750 La Chapelle (1049 m)
9313316485 Pierre Plate (1330 m)
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7214539444 Alt. 1842 m
10944185084 Altitude 808
3988992313 Altitude 840
245799262 Altitude 1455
278234558 Altitude 1640
278413830 Altitude 1800
1289581188 alt 2000 m
-- --
9167779023 Cote 392
9546098576 Côte 2000
3916246129 La Cote 457 mètres
1349136019 La Cote 1545 mètres
1256811922 La Cote 1304 mètres
4331154364 La Cote 999 mètres
82713918 La Cote 689 mètres
2356986548 La Cote 689 mètres
3667117272 La Cote 240 mètres
3830539466 La Cote 1208 mètres
5085387498 La Cote 802 mètres
11833641797 La Cote 1257 mètres
1024885318 Les Côtes 1487

Extract of this overpass query

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pyrog commented May 5, 2024

Le Monolithe
Le Monolith

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May I offer my thoughts? Adjacent nodes can have identical names, that is no problem for integrity, routing and maintenance. Node labels are useful for users, on the planner display and planner output. If we want to show the difference based on elevation, it would be enough to append the ele value (if present) to the name for display and planner output.

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pyrog commented May 25, 2024

Does two or more adjacent nodes with the same name but with different elevation are the "same" node ?
Is it only a display "issue" ?

Should be checked, but in point of view of french operators it seem different nodes.

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vmarc commented Jun 12, 2024

Start- and endnode can have the same name (example). If on the ground, on the guideposts, the nodes are distinguished from each other by the elevation, then that should be reflected in the node name I think.

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