Illogical moves in ToRussianPeople.md

[makise-homura]

За обычный призыв к миру сейчас можно получить несколько лет тюрьмы.
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Вы можете сделать выбор НЕ МОЛЧАТЬ.

or

You can be jailed for multiple years for simply calling for peace.
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You can choose NOT TO BE SILENT.

Does this mean the only purpose of this text is just "be morons or go to jail, you choose what"?

Speaking of myself, I don't support this war at all (considering its initiation just a extremely foolish idea of Putin), but even for me these words sound plainly nonsense.

If you REALLY want to convince some Russians, try to figure out what people can do in the situation when they have absolutely no control over the government (you probably live in a country with this control, and you can't even imagine it is even possible; but in Russia and Belarus, it is a confirmed fact), and don't ask them to go to jail with absolutely no result.

Btw, banning software written and supported by Russian developers (who have nothing in common with government's actions), looks very weird too. I HIGHLY recommend to assume Russian developers don't support any side of the conflict (because we don't have enough convincing confirmed information from either side), unless they stated one or another--instead of assuming that they support this war unless they stated they do not. If they confirm that they support the war, you may treat it as an offense and ban them if you consider them enemies; but you should NOT oblige them to support Ukraine to avoid throwing off of community. Even if you consider supporting Russian invasion a crime, neutrality is not a crime and never shall be.

[vshymanskyy]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity

[vadimdemedes]

If you REALLY want to convince some Russians, try to figure out what people can do in the situation when they have absolutely no control over the government

The last thing we're interested in is convincing russians to do something. It's your country, so you figure it out yourself. Or choose to not do anything, frankly we don't give a fuck and we certainly aren't going to "figure out" what you should do.

[makise-homura]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity

I doesn't work in Russia, all attemtps since 2011 was failed miserably. Russian police and investigation agencies have much more power than in Ukraine. Why no one from outside of Russia can't realize that, while in Russia it's obvoiusly clear? Russia is not an oversized version of Ukraine, it's more like Belarus (there, it also was an attempt of revolution in 2020, and it failed the exact same way as it was in Russia). Methods that work in Ukraine or African countries, don't work in Russia, Belarus, or North Korea.

The last thing we're interested in is convincing russians to do something.

So why do you actually trying to convince them so-called "NOT TO BE SILENT" then, if you're not interested in it?

For me (one of many Russians who hate this war and all of its consequences), this appeal doesn't contain any useful information or directions. If you want Russians to actually do something because of it, there should be something suggested that they are able do. E.g. asking them to support, say, ICRC or some other organization who helps injured in this war (and who accepts payments through crypto currency or Russian MIR system, since all others are banned in Russia right now) is much more useful than asking them to just go to jail for nothing (it's just an example).

Of course, I bring this recommendation assuming you actually want to help Ukrainian people, not just place something annoying in software for no reason except hype.

[nedbat]

FWIW: nedbat/coveragepy@5ec587c#commitcomment-73645112

[webknjaz]

Thanks for that link, Ned. I've been meaning to post some explanation of what that label means, but never got to it. It basically marks places where we see some of the distinguishable behaviors often exhibited by ruscists. So it might not be every statement, but just a few or one. We don't normally have mental capacity to explain every small bit, because it's very triggering.