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>>The Prime Minister (Mrs Theresa May): I
am sure that the whole House will join me
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in offering our condolences to the families
and friends of those who lost their lives
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and were injured in the gun attack in Quebec
City on Sunday, and in paying tribute to our
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former colleague Tam Dalyell, who died last
Friday. He was an outstanding parliamentarian,
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and I am sure that all our thoughts are with
his friends and family.
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This morning, I had meetings with ministerial
colleagues and others. In addition to my duties
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in the House, I shall have further such meetings
later today.
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>>Peter Heaton-Jones (North Devon) (Con):
I associate myself with the remarks made by
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the Prime Minister and the tribute paid to
the victims in Canada and to the family of
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Tam Dalyell.
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North Devon is quite rightly concerned that
the current review of health services across
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the county may result in the loss of some
acute services at our hospital in Barnstaple.
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For some residents, the nearest alternative
could be three hours away. Will my right hon.
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Friend assure me that she will listen carefully
to those concerns, because I want to be able
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to say to North Devon that we are the party
of the NHS?
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>>The Prime Minister: I thank my hon. Friend
for his question. I can reassure him that
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this Government are absolutely committed to
ensuring the best possible healthcare for
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patients right across the country. I recognise
that concerns have been expressed locally
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about the North Devon district hospital. I
understand that there are no specific proposals
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at the moment, but I know that the input of
local communities will remain crucial throughout
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the process, and I can assure him that of
course it is this party in government that
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is putting the extra funding into the NHS
and showing how we value it.
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>>Jeremy Corbyn (Islington North) (Lab): I
join the Prime Minister in offering condolences
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to all those who died in the horrific attack,
fuelled by hate, in Quebec, and we should
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send our solidarity to everyone in Canada
on this sad occasion.
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May I also associate myself with the Prime
Minister’s tribute to the former Member
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for West Lothian, and later Linlithgow, Tam
Dalyell? A Labour MP and former Father of
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the House, he doggedly fought to expose official
wrongdoing and cover-ups, from the miners
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strike to Iraq. I am sure the Prime Minister
would agree that Tam’s scrutiny and contributions
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made this House a better place, and may I
recommend to all Members his autobiography
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“The Importance of Being Awkward”? [Interruption.]
And I am quite happy to offer my copy to the
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Secretary of State for Brexit to have a good
read of it. I am sure that he has probably
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already read it.
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At last week’s Prime Minister Question Time,
the Prime Minister told the House:
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“I am not afraid to speak frankly to a President
of the United States”. What happened?
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>>The Prime Minister: First, let me say that
I was not aware of Tam Dalyell’s book “The
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Importance of Being Awkward”, but given
the number of resignations that the right
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hon. Gentleman has had from his Front Bench,
I suspect that some of his colleagues have
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indeed read it.
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I am pleased to say to the right hon. Gentleman
that when I visited the United States, I was
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able to build on the relationship that we
have with our most important ally and get
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some very significant commitments from President
Trump. Crucial among those was a 100% commitment
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to NATO—NATO which keeps us safe and keeps
Europe safe too.
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>>Jeremy Corbyn: Downing Street has not denied
that the Prime Minister was told by the White
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House that the Executive order on travel to
the US was imminent, so let us be clear: was
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the Prime Minister told about the ban during
her visit, and did she try to persuade President
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Trump otherwise?
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>>The Prime Minister: On the policy that President
Trump has introduced, this Government are
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clear that it is wrong. We would not do it.
In six years as Home Secretary, I never introduced
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such a policy. We believe it is divisive and
wrong. If the right hon. Gentleman is asking
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me whether I had advance notice of the ban
on refugees, the answer is no. If he is asking
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me if I had advance notice that the Executive
order could affect British citizens, the answer
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is no. If he is asking if I had advance notice
of the travel restrictions, the answer is,
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we all did, because President Trump said in
his election campaign that he was going to
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do this. The question is how you respond.
The job of Government is not to chase the
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headlines; the job of Government is not to
take to the streets in protest; the job of
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Government is to protect the interests of
British citizens, and that is exactly what
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we did.
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>>Jeremy Corbyn: On the day after the Executive
order was made to ban refugees and visitors
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from seven predominantly Muslim countries,
why did the Prime Minister three times refuse
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to condemn the ban?
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>>The Prime Minister: I have made it very
clear that we believe that this policy is
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divisive and wrong, and that it is not a policy
that we would introduce. I have also made
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it very clear when asked about this that this
Government have a very different approach
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to these issues. On refugees, this Government
have a proud record of the support that we
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have given to them, and long may it continue.
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>>Jeremy Corbyn: The Prime Minister said:
“The United States is responsible for the
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United States’ policy on refugees.”
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But surely it is the responsibility of all
of us to defend the 1951 refugee convention,
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which commits this country, the United States
and 142 other states to accept refugees without
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regard to their
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“race, religion or country of origin.”
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President Trump has breached that convention.
Why did she not speak out?
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>>The Prime Minister: First, I have made absolutely
clear what the Government’s view on this
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policy is. Secondly, as I have just said,
this Government and this country have a proud
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record on how we welcome refugees. In recent
years, we have introduced a very particular
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scheme to ensure that particularly vulnerable
refugees in Syria can be brought to this country,
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and something like 10,000 Syrian refugees
have come to this country since the conflict
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began. We are also the second biggest bilateral
donor, helping and supporting refugees in
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the region. That is what we are doing. I have
said that the US policy is wrong. We will
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take a different view, and we will continue
to welcome refugees to this country.
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>>Jeremy Corbyn: I also wrote to the Prime
Minister on this issue and received her reply
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this morning. I hold in my hand her piece
of paper. She makes no mention of the refugee
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convention and does not condemn US action
in that respect.
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Last week, I asked the Prime Minister to assure
the House that she would not offer up our
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national health service as a “bargaining
chip” in any US trade deal. She gave no
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answer. She also refused to rule it out when
asked in the US, so let me ask her a third
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time: will she rule out opening up our national
health service to private US healthcare companies—yes
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or no?
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>>The Prime Minister: I could give a detailed
answer to the right hon. Gentleman’s question,
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but a simple and straightforward reply is
what is required: the NHS is not for sale
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and it never will be.
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>>Jeremy Corbyn: I hope that that includes
not having US healthcare companies coming
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in to run any part of our national health
service.
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President Trump has torn up international
agreements on refugees. He has threatened
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to dump international agreements on climate
change. He has praised the use of torture.
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He has incited hatred against Muslims. He
has directly attacked women’s rights. Just
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what more does he have to do before the Prime
Minister will listen to the 1.8 million people
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who have already called for his state visit
invitation to be withdrawn?
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>>The Prime Minister: The right hon. Gentleman’s
foreign policy is to object to and insult
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the democratically elected Head of State of
our most important ally. Let us see what he
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would have achieved in the last week. Would
he have been able to protect British citizens
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from the impact of the Executive order? No.
Would he have been able to lay the foundations
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of a trade deal? No. Would he have got a 100%
commitment to NATO? No. That is what Labour
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has to offer this country—less protection
for British citizens, less prosperity, less
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safety. He can lead a protest; I am leading
a country.
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>>Stuart Andrew (Pudsey) (Con): Today it is
inconceivable that somebody would be prosecuted
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based on who and what they are. Will my right
hon. Friend join me in welcoming the posthumous
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pardon of some 49,000 men thanks to the Government’s
Turing Bill which was enacted yesterday? Will
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she also encourage those who are still alive
to come forward so that their injustices can
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be overturned?
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>>The Prime Minister: I am very happy to join
my hon. Friend in welcoming an extremely important
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change in the law. We committed to it in our
manifesto and have now delivered on it. Passing
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Turing’s law has been a long-standing commitment
for the Government. It is momentous and takes
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action to right the wrongs of the past. Like
my hon. Friend, I certainly encourage those
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still alive to apply to the Home Office to
have their offences disregarded.
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>>Angus Robertson (Moray) (SNP): We on the
SNP Benches associate ourselves with all the
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comments thus far about the tragic deaths
in Quebec City and about the passing of Tam
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Dalyell. Respect for him was held across the
political parties and he served with great
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distinction for more than 40 years.
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The Prime Minister had a successful international
visit this last week—to Ireland. She spoke
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publicly about her commitment—this is important—not
to have a hard border on these islands, to
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the continuation of free movement of peoples
on these islands and to protect and enhance
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trade. Given that people will be watching
this not just in Britain but in Ireland, will
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she take this opportunity to explain how she
will deliver those sensible, important outcomes?
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>>The Prime Minister: Those are absolutely
the outcomes that we want to see. I was very
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pleased to meet the Taoiseach and to discuss
with him the joint intent that both his Government
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and mine have to ensure that we do not see
a return to the borders of the past in Northern
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Ireland. We focus on the land border that
is between Northern Ireland and the Republic
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of Ireland. Of course, the issue of movements
from Ireland affects other places as well;
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it affects ports in Wales and Stranraer. Therefore,
it is an important issue for us and we have
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agreed the work that we are going to do together
to deliver what I believe will be as frictionless
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a border as possible. Also, one of the objectives
that I set out in my plan for our negotiating
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objectives is to retain the common travel
area.
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>>Angus Robertson: We on the SNP Benches very
much welcome what the Prime Minister has just
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said on all those issues. Of course, we also
welcome the intensifying of negotiations between
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the UK Government and the devolved Administrations
ahead of triggering article 50. The Prime
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Minister has very helpfully explained that
it is perfectly possible for parts of these
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islands to be in the single market, without
hard borders, with free movement of people,
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while at the same time protecting and enhancing
trade with one another. That is very, very
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welcome, so will she give a commitment to
work with the Irish Government and a commitment
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to work with the Scottish Government to deliver
all those things—or will we just have to
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get on with it ourselves?
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>>The Prime Minister: First, the right hon.
Gentleman is right that following the meeting
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of the Joint Ministerial Committee plenary
on Monday morning, we agreed to intensify
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discussion on issues related to the bringing
back of powers from Brussels and where those
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powers should lie within the UK—to intensify
that in the run-up to the triggering of article
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50 and beyond the triggering of article 50.
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On the other question, the right hon. Gentleman
really should listen to the answers that are
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given, because he is trying to imply something
that is not there. [Hon. Members: “Oh!”]
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Yes. We are very clear that we want to see
a frictionless border between Northern Ireland
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and the Republic of Ireland, but I am also
clear that one of the objectives of our negotiation
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is to see as frictionless a border as possible
between the UK and the rest of the European
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Union. Of course, if he is so worried about
having a frictionless border between Scotland
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and countries in the EU, he should not want
to take Scotland out of the EU by wanting
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to see it independent. [Interruption.]
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>>Mr Speaker: Order. We should not have to
allow for the reaction from the SNP Benches
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to every answer before we proceed to the next
question.
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>>Mrs Maria Miller (Basingstoke) (Con): EU
nationals provide a vital and expert service
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in my local hospital in Basingstoke and, along
with thousands of others, they face an uncertain
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future. I know that this is something that
the Prime Minister wants to give priority
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to and to sort out. Will we be hearing more
about it in the forthcoming White Paper?
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>>The Prime Minister: My right hon. Friend
makes an important point about EU nationals.
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I would like to confirm my intention and expectation
that we will be able to offer that reassurance
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to EU nationals living in the UK, but I also
want to see reassurance offered to UK nationals
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living in the EU. I hope and will be working
to try to ensure that this is an issue we
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can deal with at a very early stage in the
negotiations. It was one of the objectives
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I set out in the plan. It will be referenced
in the White Paper and I can inform my right
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hon. Friend and the House that that White
Paper will be published tomorrow.
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>>Jonathan Reynolds (Stalybridge and Hyde)
(Lab/Co-op): Prime Minister, your responses
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today have been deeply unsatisfactory. The
President of the United States has advocated
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torture, misogyny, racial discrimination,
sexual assault and isolationism. The leaders
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of Canada and Germany were able to respond
robustly, but your response was to jump on
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a plane as soon as possible to hold his hand.
Does this country not deserve a leader who
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is willing to stand up for British values?
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>>Mr Speaker: Order. I have issued no response
and the hon. Gentleman not only should not
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breach parliamentary protocol but should not
tempt me.
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>>The Prime Minister: I will tell you what
standing up for British values is. I and this
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Government introduced the first Modern Slavery
Act in this country. I have ensured that stop
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and search has reduced, because I do not believe
that anyone on the streets of this country
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should be stopped and searched because of
the colour of their skin, and I ensured justice
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for the families of Hillsborough.
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>>Mrs Theresa Villiers (Chipping Barnet) (Con):
In light of the fact that most of the countries
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covered by the Trump ban have a total bar
on the admission of Israeli citizens, should
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the protestors not be calling for that ban
to be lifted as well?
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>>The Prime Minister: I thank my right hon.
Friend for pointing that out. It is absolutely
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right that the House should be aware of the
discrimination around the world and of that
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ban, particularly for those who are Israeli
citizens. We are consistent: we do not agree
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with that approach and it is not one that
we will take. I wait for the day when the
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right hon. Member for Islington North (Jeremy
Corbyn) stands up and condemns it too.
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>>Chris Elmore (Ogmore) (Lab/Co-op): My constituent
Dianah Kendall suffered a bleed on the brain
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in 2012 and has struggled to work since, but
was due to retire in September. Government
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changes to her state pension retirement age
mean that she will now not retire until 2022.
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This injustice has short-changed 2.6 million
WASPI women and brings shame on this Government.
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Will the Prime Minister think again and support
Dianah and the millions of women who deserve
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fairness in retirement?
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>>The Prime Minister: On the issue of those
who are known as the WASPI campaign, I refer
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the hon. Gentleman to the fact that, as I
am sure he knows, we committed more than £1
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billion to lessen the impact on those worst
affected, so no one will see their pension
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age change by more than 18 months. There is
a wider point: we need to be realistic when
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considering pension ages about the fact that
people are living longer. If we want to carry
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on having an affordable and sustainable pension
system, we need to equalise the state pension
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age for men and women faster and to bring
forward the rise.
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>>Will Quince (Colchester) (Con): I welcome
the £450 million announced in the autumn