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Avoid asking about maxspeed, cyclelanes for junction=roundabout? #690

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CloCkWeRX opened this issue Nov 16, 2017 · 6 comments
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Avoid asking about maxspeed, cyclelanes for junction=roundabout? #690

CloCkWeRX opened this issue Nov 16, 2017 · 6 comments
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CloCkWeRX commented Nov 16, 2017

For roundabouts in Australia; a cycle lane will always end prior to a roundabout; so doesnt make sense to ask for this info. I am fairly sure that would apply to both large and small roundabouts, and would be similar in other countries.

For maxspeed, I dont think it makes sense on roundabouts except for very large scale junctions; and even then its difficult to decide which entry road defines the maxspeed.

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Nice catch.
Adding maxspeed=70 to this roundabout seems a bit silly.

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Okay, but I don't see why it should not be asked for cycle lanes. Why do cycle lanes end before roundabouts in Australia? Where do the bicycles go then?

For the roundabout that @HolgerJeromin mentioned, there is a cycleway, but mapped separately (so the quest should not show there).

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Typical Australian roundabout:
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-34.825873411027004&lng=138.48612280333123&z=17&pKey=FFaKsPCXMNn41sNTua2V2A&focus=photo

It's generally signed as 'bike lane ends', and in the road rules you can't generally overtake a cyclist/other traffic.

For something like the typical Dutch separated roundabout, it makes sense to ask
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout#Bicycles lists a few other design approaches taken around the world.

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So, I'd say, it does make sense to ask for cycleways on a roundabout.

But I could remove the maxspeed question.

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Have you addressed maxspeed?

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