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[Minutes] UA String Reduction - 2021-06-05

Attendees:

  • Karl Dubost, Mozilla
  • Mike Taylor, Google

Minutes

Administrivia

mike: Where do we keep the minutes?

karl: On the repo

What should be working on

karl: @cpeterso has created a document for Firefox (not public yet), where he's documenting pros and cons of UA freezing/reduction. A lot of these things could be generalized beyond Mozilla. There are things that could be copied and used

mike: Should we start with list of pro/cons? or should we start documenting user agent structure?

karl: Probably we should do both.Understanding the "theory" of UA string. There are a lot of things in common in there, to the point you wonder why it's still there, for example Mozilla/5.0. This is worth being documented. We could also document the things you had done in firefox -- a bit of the history and evolution (there is a public google doc somewhere)

mike: I was getting the UA client hints ready for the TAG, and there's a good explainer in there. It has information on what people use. The origin was to motivate what API could be built with regards to this information. It's very similar to the blog post karl wrote about user agent detection cases. We can take the best pieces of this and make sure everything is covered

mike: we can meet again in a couple of weeks. Let's work on this. We can invite people to participate. let's use markdown files to start. We can consolidate later.

karl: I will start with UA detection use cases

mike: I will start with structure of user agent strings.

Next Meeting

July 7, 2021 10:00 JST

Let's invite Chris Peterson (Mozilla)

Post-Scriptum

If— By Rudyard Kipling