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explore possible kit offering #48

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garlick opened this issue Dec 31, 2020 · 8 comments
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explore possible kit offering #48

garlick opened this issue Dec 31, 2020 · 8 comments

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garlick commented Dec 31, 2020

There are some barriers for people getting this project off the ground:

  • fine pitch SMT soldering
  • high shipping to part cost for small number of components
  • single quantity part prices are high
  • oshpark PCB fab cost is somewhat high for this size board and you have to buy 3
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garlick commented Dec 31, 2020

A test fixture might be nice, to check out a board that has only the SMT parts soldered.

It could

  • hold the board with pogo pins
  • power the board
  • exercise the I/O lines
  • program the EEPROM

Or am I getting off in the weeds for a demand that may add up to 5 boards? :-)

BTW, PCBWAY estimates $60 for 40 boards including international shipping.

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quorten commented Dec 31, 2020

I think a test fixture is getting into the weeds for SMT-only soldered boards. For other small-volume projects, it seems sane to ship out factory-soldered boards as-is and leave testing up to the user who populates on the through-hole components to complete it.

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quorten commented Dec 31, 2020

Oh yeah... pi-parport is much cheaper in volume than RaSCSI because it doesn't need relatively rare and expensive transceiver chips. It could just as well make sense to only offer fully assembled boards.

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garlick commented Dec 31, 2020

Maybe we should put the BOM into digikey and see where the price breaks are? (Probably dominated by the price break on the buffer chip which is at qty 10, 25, and 100)

At minimum it seems like a no brainer to put together a parts kit that could be provided to people at cost + shipping, since it will be so much cheaper for someone that wants to assemble one or two boards.

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quorten commented Dec 31, 2020

The 26-pin header, 40-pin header, and buffer chip together have the least discounting at larger volume and are about $3-$4 total.

For the BOM quantities as stated (i.e. not including spares for small passives), quantity 10-50 is largely similar price breaks. So, price breaks for 5 boards, 10 boards, and 100 boards, these are the totals for the BOM of one board.

  • Qty 5: $7.395
  • Qty 10: $5.518
  • Qty 100: $4.4055

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garlick commented Dec 31, 2020

Thanks for doing that!

To add to the data, here is the cost per board from PCBWAY (shipped) with a stencil thrown in:

  • Qty 5: $11.60
  • Qty 10: $6.40
  • Qty 20: $4.20
  • Qty 40: $2.35
  • Qty 100: $1.36

Putting together a kit with the SMT parts soldered on as suggested by @Geato in #38 might not be so bad.

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quorten commented Jan 2, 2021

Including the DIP jumper is probably a good idea for the kit offering, I'll update the BOMs to include the Digi-Key PN of the DIP jumper I've been using.

Edit: See issues #51 and #47.

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quorten commented Jan 6, 2021

It's probably a good idea to perhaps set something up to gauge interest from folks who might be interested in pre-ordering a kit. Could be as simple as a note in the top-level README.md for adding a comment to this GitHub issue.

But yeah, my hunch is that an initial batch of 5 boards could last at least a year, 10 boards twice as long. But I'm basing this off of my (possibly false) assumption that the pi-parport market has already been relatively "saturated" by those who assembled their own boards.

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