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<date>1934-11-30</date>
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<para class="block">House of Representatives </para>
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<day.start>1934-11-30</day.start>
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<inline font-weight="bold">Mr. Speaker</inline>(Hon. G. J. Bell) took the chair at 10.30 a.m., and read prayers. </para>
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<title>UNEMPLOYMENT</title>
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<para>Shorter Working Week</para>
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<name role="metadata">LAWSON, John</name>
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<para>- Is the Prime Minister in a position to confirm current reports to the effect that the Government proposes to appoint acommittee to conduct an inquiry into the subject of a shorter working week in the Commonwealth? If so, will be give the assurance that the committee will be appointed at the earliest possible moment, and that it will report fully on the effect which the modernization of industry, due to the introduction of machinery, has had on the employment position, and as to what is likely to be the trend of such movements in the future? </para>
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<para>- The honorable gentleman will remember that in the Speech delivered by the Governor-General at the opening of Parliament, it was made clear that there would be an investigation with the object of ascertaining the root causes of unemployment and possible remedies. The Government intends to proceed with that proposal. At the present time, it is considering what is the most effective form such an inquiry could take. I hope at an early date to be able to inform the House that the inquiry has been instituted and to state the form which it will take. It may embrace the points raised by the honorable member. </para>
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<para>- It has been reported that the terms of reference are now being considered by the Government. Is it prepared to allow those who are interested in industrial organizations to submit terms of reference, or to make suggestions, so that the field of inquiry may not be restricted, but may cover the points that they wish to have investigated? </para>
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<para>- The object of the Government is to have the matter investigated from the view-point of every interest, which, therefore, will be represented on whatever body is set up. Meanwhile, the Government will be very glad to receive suggestions from any section. </para>
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<page.no>701</page.no>
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<name role="metadata">HOLLOWAY, Edward</name>
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<para>- If and when the Prime Minister decides to appoint an expert committee to consider the hours of labour, will he take steps to ensure that a representative of the trade union movement is appointed to it? </para>
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<para>- The honorable member can depend on the Government appointing to whatever body is constituted to consider the hours of labour representatives of every section interested. I now give the definite assurance that the organized workers will be represented on it. </para>
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<title>DISMISSAL OF TELEPHONE MECHANICS</title>
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<name role="metadata">SCULLIN, James Henry</name>
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<para>- I have been advised that fourteen temporary mechanics, including a number of returned soldiers, <inline font-style="italic">who</inline> are employed in the telephone branch of the Postmaster-General's Department, have received notices of dismissal owing to lack of work. Can something be done to obviate the necessity for these dismissals, as Christmas is approaching, and hardship will be sufferedby these men, all of whom, I believe, have wives and families to support? </para>
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<inline font-weight="bold">Mr. ARCHDALE</inline>PARKHILL.Inquiry has already been made to some extent into this matter. According to the limited knowledge that I have of it at the moment, these are temporary men. Only six of them are married, and a review of the circumstances has led to their services being retained. Returned soldiers and married men, of course, have to be given preference. I shall refer the matter to the Postmaster-General. I give the right honorable gentleman the assurance that the claims of these men will be considered in connexion with any additional employment that may be rendered necessary during the Christmas season, soas to avoid, as far as possible, dispensing with their services. </para>
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<title>SPECIAL ADJOURNMENT</title>
<page.no>702</page.no>
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<para class="block">Motion (by <inline font-weight="bold">Mr. Lyons)</inline> agreed to - </para>
<para class="block">That the House, at its rising, adjourn until Tuesday next, at 3 p.m. </para>
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<title>QUESTION</title>
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<title>AUSTRALIA HOUSE</title>
<page.no>702</page.no>
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<name role="metadata">JENNINGS, John</name>
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<para>- I have been informed by tourists who have returned from overseas that the information regarding Australia supplied by the staff at Australia House is inadequate and unsatisfactory, and lacks detail; further, that the display of Australian products is altogether insufficient for the purpose of advertising Australia. Will the Prime Minister, when he visits London next year, inquire into these matters, in view of their importance to Australia, and see whether one or two Australians who are sufficiently equipped and well informed to supply necessary information should not be appointed to the staff at Australia House? </para>
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<name role="metadata">LYONS, Joseph Aloysius</name>
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<para>- If the opportunity presents itself. I shall have no hesitation in investigating the matter; but I am not satisfied that there is any real ground for the criticism to which the honorable member has referred. </para>
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<title>PARLIAMENTARY UNDERSECRETARY FOR EMPLOYMENT</title>
<page.no>702</page.no>
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<page.no>702</page.no>
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<name.id>F4U</name.id>
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<name role="metadata">FORDE, Francis Michael</name>
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<para>- Will the Prime Minister advise honorable members as to where the office of the Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Employment is situated? Is' that honorable gentleman provided with an office at Parliament House and at one of the secretariats? Has he the services of a private secretary? Why is he not in the House this morning so that we may direct a few questions to him? </para>
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<para>- The honorable member for Parramatta <inline font-weight="bold">(Mr. Stewart)</inline> is best able to inform the honorable gentleman as to the reason for his absence from the House this morning. In reply to the first part of the question, I would point out that accommodation for the Under-Secretary for Employment is provided on' the same floor as that occupied by the Prime Minister's Department in No. 2 Secretariat, and that he is associated with the Prime Minister in the discharge of his functions. He is so well provided with accommodation that at present he is occupying the Cabinet Room in that Secretariat. He has whatever staff is necessary for the carrying out of his work. </para>
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<page.no>702</page.no>
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<name role="metadata">MAKIN, Norman</name>
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<para>- Does he attend Cabinet meetings ? </para>
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<page.no>702</page.no>
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<para>- Whenever the Cabinet deals with unemployment, the Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Employment is present at the meeting. </para>
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<para>- What is the reason for having the designation " UnderSecretary for Employment ", rather than " Director of Employment ". Honorable members might be helped to an understanding of this new departure if they had a knowledge of what is in the mind of the Government? </para>
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<name role="metadata">LYONS, Joseph Aloysius</name>
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<para>- I am perfectly sure that the honorable member neither wants to be helped nor to help in regard to this particular matter. </para>
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<para>- There is no need for the right honorable gentleman to be insulting. </para>
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<page.no>703</page.no>
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<para>- Nor should the honorable member be insulting. </para>
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<inline font-style="italic">Honorable members interjecting,</inline>
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<inline font-weight="bold">Mr. SPEAKER (Hon. G. J. Bell).Order!</inline>Honorable members must not interrupt when the Prime Minister is replying to a question. </para>
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<para>- The statement of the Prime Minister is distinctly insulting and offensive to me. So far as it impugns my sincerity in relation to the matter of employment, I ask that it be withdrawn. </para>
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<para>- I am sorry if I have said anything offensive to another honorable member. I suggest, however, that honorable members give to me the same consideration that I always try to give to them. </para>
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<para>- I asked a straightforward question. </para>
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<para>- I shall put my answer in another form. I withdraw the words to which objection has been taken, and say that information on the point raised by the honorable member, if given to him, would not be of any help to him. I have given full information in regard to the position. </para>
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<para>- You cannot answer my question. </para>
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<para>- I ask that that remark be withdrawn. </para>
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<para>- The honorable member for Hindmarsh was certainly out of order in interjecting; but the. interjection - that the Prime Minister could not answer a question - is not in itself disorderly. </para>
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<para>- It was insulting to the Prime Minister. </para>
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<para>- Order !When the Chair has given a ruling, honorable members should not interject nor suggest that it is not a good ruling. I repeat, that the remark of the honorable member for Hindmarsh - that the Prime Minister could not answer a question - cannot be considered unparliamentary. </para>
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<para>- My interjection was to the effect that it was insulting. </para>
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<para>- Order ! The honorable member may not debate the matter. </para>
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<para>- I accept your ruling, sir. I can form my own judgment in regard to the attitude of the honorable member. I believe that it coincides with the judgment of many other honorable members. I proceed, then, to reply to the question. The reason for the appointment as Parliamentary UnderSecretary of the honorable gentleman who is dealing with employment, is to give him higher status than he would have were he merely Director of Employment. As Parliamentary UnderSecretary he has access to the Cabinet on all occasions when it is dealing with the matter of unemployment. </para>
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<para>- Why did you not tell me that before? </para>
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<para>- I have already said to-day that he has access to the Cabinet when matters affecting employment are being dealt with. That very fact, I think, justifies the attitude which I adopted towards the honorable member, who ought to set a better example to honorable members of this House. </para>
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<para>- In appointing a parliamentary undersecretary for employment did the Government follow the precedent set by a Labour government in South Australia four years ago, and will the Prime Minister confer with the honorable member for Hindmarsh <inline font-weight="bold">(Mr. Makin)</inline> in the matter, with a view to avoiding a repetition of the unpleasant happenings which led to' the resignation of the person so appointed in South Australia? </para>
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<para>- I was not aware of the precedent referred to by the honorable member, but I understand that a previous Commonwealth Government established & precedent when it appointed a parliamentary under-secretary. </para>
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<para>- Does not the Prime Minister think that the Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Employment should answer questions directly when members seek information in this House? Further, does he not think that it would be better for communications regarding employment to be sent directly te the Parliamentary Under-Secretary instead of having to 'be forwarded through the Prime Minister's Department ? </para>
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<para>- I am not greatly concerned whether or not the Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Employment gives information directly to members in this chamber, but I point out that no information regarding employment has yet been refused. </para>
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<para>- We get the information second-hand. </para>
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<para>- The information supplied has come from the head of the Government. </para>
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<para>- But he does not direct employment. </para>
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<para>- As the Prime Minister's Department embraces a number of activities, communications must necessarily pass through a central office. So « far, that has not occasioned any loss of time, and I undertake that in regard to the matters to be dealt with by the Parliamentary Undersecretary for Employment there will be no unnecessary delay. I regard the honorable member's question as a reasonable one, and am not averse from following the course he suggests. I shall therefore look into the matter. Having regard to other questions which have been asked, I repeat that no information has been refused to honorable members because of the procedure adopted. </para>
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<para>- Has the attention of the Minister been drawn to a newspaper paragraph stating that the report of the Victorian redistribution commissioners has been completed, and, if so, can he say when it will be made available to honorable members? </para>
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<para>- The Melbourne branch of the Electoral Department has informed me that, although the report of the Victorian commissioners has been prepared, it will not be forwarded to me until the maps to accompany it have been prepared by the Government Printer. It is expected that about three weeks will elapse before the maps are ready. </para>
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<para>- Can the Minister say where the report in this morning's <inline font-style="italic">Canberra, Times</inline> originated, and whether it is true, especially in regard to the electorate of Indi ? </para>
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<para>- I have not seen the report to which the honorable member refers, and, therefore, cannot express an opinion as to its correctness or otherwise. </para>
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<para>- Is it the intention of the Government to provide for further sales tax exemptions, and, if so, will a list of the proposed exemptions be brought before Parliament before the Christmas adjournment? </para>
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<para>- The Government has no immediate intention of introducing proposals for further exemptions from sales tax. </para>
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<para>- Will the Assistant Treasurer instruct the Sales Tax Commissioners to exempt water on mining fields from the sales tax? </para>
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<para>- I shall look into the matter raised by the honorable member.- </para>
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<para>- Has the Minister for the Interior yet seen the departmental report, following inquiries made into Northern Territory matters during recent years, and, if so, will he consider making available a summary of it? </para>
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<para>- I do not think that tho report has yet come to hand, but I will consider the honorable member's suggestion that a summary of it be made. </para>
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<para>- Can the Minister for the Interior state when lessees in the Northern Territory will be notified of the Government's intention regarding the resumption of leases that are falling due in the near future, and regarding the reduction of rents in those cases where a revision is due within the next year or two? </para>
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<para>- I realize that this matter is becoming somewhat urgent, and that a decision will have to be reached at an early date. Consideration, is being given to it, and I hope to be able to make a more definite statement within the next two or three days. </para>
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