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<session.header>
<date>1957-09-04</date>
<parliament.no>22</parliament.no>
<session.no>2</session.no>
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<day.start>1957-09-04</day.start>
<para>The <inline font-weight="bold">PRESIDENT (Senator the Hon. Sir Alister McMullin)</inline> took the chair at 3 p.m., and read prayers. </para>
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<title>PENSIONS</title>
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<title>Petition</title>
<page.no>117</page.no>
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<inline font-weight="bold">Senator McMANUS</inline>presented a petition from 5,152 citizens praying that the Parliament would grant an immediate increase in the rates of pensions. </para>
<para>Petition received and read. </para>
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<title>QUESTION</title>
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<title>OPPOSITION WHIP</title>
<page.no>117</page.no>
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<page.no>117</page.no>
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<name role="metadata">MCKENNA, Nicholas</name>
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<para>. - by leave - I have to inform the Senate that <inline font-weight="bold">Senator O'Flaherty</inline> has been appointed Opposition Whip in place of <inline font-weight="bold">Senator Critchley,</inline> who has resigned his office on account of ill health. I take the opportunity of expressing to <inline font-weight="bold">Senator Critchley</inline> the great appreciation of all Opposition senators of the invaluable service that he has rendered to the Opposition over many years. <inline font-weight="bold">Senator Critchley</inline> enjoys the deep affection of every honorable senator on the Opposition side of the chamber. </para>
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<page.no>117</page.no>
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<name role="metadata">MCCALLUM, John</name>
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<para>- And on the Government side also. </para>
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<para>Government Supporters. - Hear, hear! </para>
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<page.no>117</page.no>
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<para>- I am pleased to hear honorable senators on the Government side join in the expression of these sentiments. I know that <inline font-weight="bold">Senator Critchley</inline> has the respect of everybody in the Senate, and I do not feel that I am presuming when 1 say I speak with confidence in expressing the opinion that everybody in the Senate hopes that <inline font-weight="bold">Senator Critchley</inline> will have <inline font-style="italic">-i</inline> speedy recovery and a quick return to duty among us. </para>
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<page.no>117</page.no>
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<name role="metadata">O'SULLIVAN, Neil</name>
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<para>. - by leave - On behalf of the Government and my colleagues, I ask the Leader of the Opposition to communicate to <inline font-weight="bold">Senator Critchley</inline> our expression of deep regard for him and our wish that he will soon be completely recovered. We express to him our great affection and esteem. </para>
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<title>QUESTION</title>
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<title>HOUSING</title>
<page.no>117</page.no>
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<page.no>117</page.no>
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<name role="metadata">ASHLEY, William</name>
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<para>- Will the Minister for National Development, while awaiting a decision to bring finality to what has become known as the Spooner plan to help British permanent building societies to commence activities in Australia, which must be regarded as being a long-range plan, consider making available additional finance to the States, particularly New South Wales? The Housing Minister of that State claims to have available facilities to provide a further 3,000 houses yearly if finance is available, and Commonwealth action along those lines would enable early relief to be given to the thousands of hungry home-seekers in that State. </para>
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<page.no>117</page.no>
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<name role="metadata">SPOONER, William</name>
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<para>- The remedy that the honorable senator seeks is entirely in the hands of the New South Wales Government. The total loan moneys are made available by the Commonwealth to the State governments and each State government can apportion as much or as little as it thinks fit for housing. </para>
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<page.no>117</page.no>
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<para>- The Commonwealth, makes the money available. </para>
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<page.no>117</page.no>
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<para>- The State governments make the apportionment of housing moneys, and there is nothing, to prevent the New South Wales Government adding substantially to its housing allocation if it so desires. </para>
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<page.no>117</page.no>
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<para>- Where will it get the money? </para>
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<page.no>117</page.no>
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<para>- That is the State's responsibility. The State government gets its overall allocation, and diverts to housing that proportion of the total which itthinks is equitable. If the New South Wales Government has not apportioned enough for housing, it alone is to blame. </para>
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<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>117</page.no>
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<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>DIESEL FUEL TAX</title>
<page.no>117</page.no>
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<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>117</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>K0L</name.id>
<electorate>SOUTH AUSTRALIA</electorate>
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<name role="metadata">PEARSON, Rex</name>
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<para>- My question is directed to the Minister for Customs and Excise. In the budget speech that was delivered last night, the announcement was made that duty amounting to ls. a gallon is to be imposed on imported and Australian automotive diesel fuel used in road vehicles. May I say that this morning I received a telegram from a spokesman for the fishing industry asking whether the duty will apply to diesel fuel used by fishing fleets. I ask the Minister whether it is intended that the duty shall apply to diesel fuel used by fishermen in their vessels or used by primary producers in their tractors and other farming plant. </para>
</talk.start>
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<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>118</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KOW</name.id>
<electorate>TASMANIA</electorate>
<party>LP</party>
<role>Minister for Customs and Excise</role>
<in.gov>1</in.gov>
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<name role="metadata">HENTY, Norman</name>
<name role="display">Senator HENTY</name>
</talker>
<para>- The proposed duty of ls. a gallon will apply only to diesel fuel used by road users and not to that used by farmers in tractors or by fishermen in their vessels. </para>
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<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>118</page.no>
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<subdebate.1>
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<title>AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL AIRWAYS PROPRIETARY LIMITED</title>
<page.no>118</page.no>
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<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>118</page.no>
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<name.id>K4S</name.id>
<electorate>VICTORIA</electorate>
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<name role="metadata">SANDFORD, Charles Walter</name>
<name role="display">Senator SANDFORD</name>
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<para>- I direct a question to the Leader of the Government in the Senate or to the Minister representing the Treasurer, whoever is the appropriate Minister. A recent press report on negotiations between Australian National .Airways Proprietary Limited and Ansett Airways Proprietary Limited stated that A.N.A. is £400,000 in arrears in its repayment to the Commonwealth of money that was made available to it. Is that report true? If it is, what steps have been taken or are contemplated by the Government to ensure the payment of all moneys that are due to the Commonwealth by A.N. A.? </para>
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<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>118</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>JZY</name.id>
<electorate>WESTERN AUSTRALIA</electorate>
<party>LP</party>
<role>Minister for Shipping and Transport</role>
<in.gov>1</in.gov>
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<name role="metadata">PALTRIDGE, Shane</name>
<name role="display">Senator PALTRIDGE</name>
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<para>- I shall answer the question. The whole matter of the proposed sale of the shareholding in A.N.A. to Ansett Airways is under discussion and is the subject of negotiations. Until those negotiations are completed, I do not propose to make any statement on the matter. The honorable senator may rest assured that the Commonwealth's interest in the matter, especially in respect of moneys owed to it in relation to the purchase of aircraft by A.N.A., is being carefully watched. The money is not in jeopardy and is not likely to fall into jeopardy. </para>
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<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>118</page.no>
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<subdebate.1>
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<title>DEVONPORT AERODROME</title>
<page.no>118</page.no>
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<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>118</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>K6W</name.id>
<electorate>TASMANIA</electorate>
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<name role="metadata">COLE, George</name>
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<para>- I ask the Minister for Civil Aviation whether, in view of the fact that in rare cases only are aerodrome runways, built for DC3 aircraft, to be strengthened to take heavier aircraft, he will consider in the near future the strengthening of the runway at Devonport, which is in this category, and is the only lighted aerodrome on the strategic north-west coast of Tasmania. </para>
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<page.no>118</page.no>
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<name role="metadata">PALTRIDGE, Shane</name>
<name role="display">Senator PALTRIDGE</name>
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<para>- I must say that I admire the persistence with which the honorable senator has pursued the cause of the Devonport aerodrome. I cannot at the moment give him the assurance that he seeks. The whole matter of airport policy will shortly come under close review, and the claims of the Devonport aerodrome will then receive due consideration. </para>
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<page.no>118</page.no>
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<title>OLYMPIC GAMES FILM</title>
<page.no>118</page.no>
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<page.no>118</page.no>
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<para>- I ask the Minister for Customs and Excise whether it has come to his knowledge that a film of the Olympic Games, which was prepared by a national olympic committee in Europe, has been sent to the Australian olympic organizing committee, and that the department has refused to classify it as " educational ". If this has not come to the Minister's personal notice I ask him to look at the matter with a view to deciding whether the film can be so classified, and thereby be exempted from payment of duty. </para>
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<page.no>118</page.no>
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<para>- The film in question has come to my notice, and it is true that it has noi been classified for duty-free entry. The matter has already been raised by an honorable member in another place and is again under review. One or two suggestions for overcoming the present difficulty have been made. If the honorable senator will place the question on the notice-paper, I will give him a final answer in due course. </para>
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<page.no>118</page.no>
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<page.no>118</page.no>
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<page.no>118</page.no>
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<para>- Will the Minister for National Development make available to the South Australian Government a copy of the proposed agreement between the Commonwealth Government and the governments of New South Wales and Victoria regarding the Snowy Mountains hydro-electricity undertaking? Secondly, will South Australia's rights under the Murray Waters Agreement be fully safeguarded by the Commonwealth Government in the proposed agreement, and any similar agreement drawn up in the future? </para>
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<page.no>118</page.no>
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<para>- I thought that I had made myself clear on this matter. I have neither refused nor agreed to make a copy of the agreement available to South Australia. I have said neither "Yes" nor " No ". My job is to protect the interests of the Commonwealth, and I will make a decision as to what should be done when the time is appropriate. As for the second half of the question, I give the honorable senator an unqualified assurance that the rights of South Australia under the River Murray Waters Act are fully protected and safeguarded. </para>
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<title>SEARCH FOR OIL</title>
<page.no>119</page.no>
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<page.no>119</page.no>
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<para>- Will the Minister for National Development indicate to the Senate details of the plan to meet a portion of drilling costs in the search for oil? Will he state from what date this plan will operate, on what basis payments will be made, and whether legislation will be necessary to give effect to the plan? </para>
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<page.no>119</page.no>
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<para>- I contemplate making a considered statement on this matter after consultation with my officers, particularly my professional officers. In anticipation of that statement, I would say that the Government's professional advisers think it would be of great assistance in the search for oil throughout Australia if, in each one of the sedimentary basins where there are prospects of finding oil, a deep exploratory hole were drilled for the purpose of gaining geological information. It is not contemplated that by drilling such holes oil would be found, but the geologists and other scientists believe that by having a hole dug to 10,000 feet, 18,000 feet, or whatever might be the required depth in a particular locality, they would obtain information that would be of great assistance to all engaged in the search for oil. The programme envisages the digging of a series of deep holes in the sedimentary basins throughout Australia. Most of the areas concerned are under lease or licence to some one who is already searching. The plan is ' to pay one-half of the cost of digging a deep hole, and the information obtained from it will be available, not only to the company concerned, but to every one. </para>
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<page.no>119</page.no>
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<para>- The subsidy is onehalf of the cost? </para>
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<page.no>119</page.no>
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<para>- Yes. </para>
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<page.no>119</page.no>
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<page.no>119</page.no>
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<page.no>119</page.no>
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<para>- My question is directed to the Minister for Repatriation. I understand that during week-ends and public holidays no patients are admitted to the repatriation hospital at Concord for diagnosis and report, and that patients can be admitted only in normal hours on week days. In view of the difficulties caused by this admission method, particularly as they relate to ex-prisoners of war and other ex-servicemen whose nerves and general health were shattered during the war years, will the Minister carefully reexamine the whole question of admission outside normal hours to the repatriation general hospitals to see whether it .would be possible during holidays and week-ends, if an ex-serviceman collapsed and it was impossible to diagnose his condition outside a hospital, to admit him to a repatriation general hospital immediately? </para>
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<page.no>119</page.no>
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<para>- I can inform the honorable senator that the question of admission to repatriation general hospitals at week-ends has received a lot of consideration by the department. There are difficulties in regard to admissions during week-ends. In the first place, under the act the Repatriation Department accepts responsibility in relation to disabilities that have been caused, or aggravated, by war service. In the main, only ex-service personnel whose disabilities have been so accepted are admitted to repatriation hospitals. With some exceptions, ex-service personnel in receipt of the 100 per cent, general rate pension, as well as the special rate pensioners - that is, totally and permanently incapacitated ex-service personnel - are entitled to be admitted to repatriation hospitals for the treatment of nonwarcaused disabilities. War widows, also, can be admitted to repatriation hospitals for the treatment of certain disabilities. </para>
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<para>It is difficult to ascertain during weekends whether a person's disabilities have been accepted as attributable to war service. If a week-end duty doctor at a repatriation hospital were asked by telephone whether a particular person's disabilities had been accepted as due to war service, he would have to say that he did not know, because the head office of the department is closed over week-ends and he could not gain access to the file. On week days, however, the relevant file could be readily obtained. Another category of ex-service personnel who can be admitted to repatriation hospitals embraces persons who have applied for a war pension, if the preliminary medical examination shows that the applicant needs treatment before his disability can be diagnosed. This category is termed the diagnosis and report category, and an exserviceman who comes within it may remain in a repatriation hospital for a few days, a week, or even a couple of months. If the department decides, on receipt of the report of diagnosis from the hospital, that the ex-serviceman's disabilities were not war-caused, the patient has to be transferred to an ordinary civilian hospital. On the other hand, if his disabilities are accepted as attributable to war service, he can remain in the repatriation hospital. lt should be apparent to the honorable senator, from what I have said, that there are certain difficulties in the way of a repatriation hospital admitting an ex-serviceman during week-ends, even when a telephone call is received to the effect that the man has collapsed, However, I assure <inline font-weight="bold">Senator Anderson</inline> that I shall again look into this matter to see whether the position can be improved in relation to ex-members of the forces who collapse during week-ends, or who suffer a dangerous condition of health during week-ends and desire to gain admittance to a repatriation hospital. </para>
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<page.no>120</page.no>
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<page.no>120</page.no>
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<para>- The question that I shall address to the Minister for National Development is supplementary to the question that was asked by <inline font-weight="bold">Senator Laught.</inline> Will the Minister inform me whether the Bureau of Mineral Resources has actively helped in the search for oil by drilling? If it has done so. how many holes have been drilled to a greater depth than 2,000 feet? In what paris of Australia were they drilled? As it is vitally urgent that further geological information be made available to the oil exploratory companies operating in Australia, does the Government intend to help the industry by arranging for further drilling to be carried out by the Bureau of Mineral Resources? If this is the Government's intention, how many holes is it expected will be drilled in the forthcoming year? </para>
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<page.no>120</page.no>
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<para>- It is rather difficult to keep in mind information such as the honorable senator requests. According to my recollection, during the last twelve months the Bureau of Mineral Resources drilled three stratigraphic holes to a depth of between 1,500 and 2,500 feet in inland areas of Western Australia. They were exploratory holes, drilled, not in anticipation of locating oil, but in order to obtain geological information. The bureau has a programme for the continuance of that work. A further series of holes - I could not say how many - will be drilled. The estimated cost of that programme for the ensuing year is about £500,000. A further £500,000 will be set aside for drilling really deep holes. The holes about which I am speaking now will be stratigraphic holes, shallower than the deep holes, the sinking of which will be subsidized. It may gladden the heart of the honorable senator to know that my recollection is that most of this drilling will be done in Western Australia. </para>
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<page.no>120</page.no>
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<page.no>120</page.no>
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<page.no>120</page.no>
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<para>- Does the Minister representing the Minister for Supply recall that when a large area of central Australia was taken over for the testing of atomic weapons the Opposition expressed grave concern about the welfare of the natives who normally occupied that region? Does he recollect also that the Minister for Supply gave an assurance to the Parliament that the interests of the natives so affected would be well looked after by the Commonwealth and that every aspect of their welfare would be attended to? Is the Minister now aware that criticism has come from various bodies interested in native affairs, including the Minister for Native Affairs in Western Australia? This criticism suggests, in general terms, that the natives in that region have had a raw deal. So that capital may not be made from ignorance about the matter, will the Minister ask his colleague to arrange for a full report to be submitted to the Senate in relation to the welfare of the natives who were in that region and had to be evacuated, explaining what has happened to them and what action the Government actually took to protect their interests? </para>
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<page.no>120</page.no>
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<para>- I am, of course, aware that the subject referred to by the honorable senator has been very much under public attention, especially in recent months. It has been the subject of many reports, some of which are alleged to be highly inaccurate and highly imaginative. A feature of the reports is that there do not appear to be many, if any, points on which the various persons who compiled the reports can agree. I shall refer the question to my colleague and ask him to consider making a report of the nature desired by the honorable senator. I think it would not be a bad idea for the Minister to do so, because I feel confident that any assurance </para>
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<para>Which he gave in connexion with the care of natives in central Australia has been honoured by the Commonwealth Government. </para>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<para>- I direct a question to the Minister for Shipping and Transport. 1 understand that substantial sums of money are being allotted for the Commonwealth naval shipbuilding programme. Will any department under the Minister's control be called in aid to assist in that programme? If so, can the Minister give particulars? Will he give consideration to having naval craft built at Whyalla in South Australia and, if small ships are required, at the new shipyards at Port Adelaide? </para>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<para>- The Navy, traditionally, looks after its own naval building programme. The Department of Shipping and Transport is not concerned in any way with what the Navy does. Naturally, however, I have an interest in shipbuilding, and when any naval building programme undertaken by the Department of the Navy can affect commercial shipbuilding yards, I shall be both interested and pleased to discuss with the Minister for the Navy the possibility of placing appropriate orders with commercial shipbuilding yards. </para>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<para>- Can the Minister representing the Minister for Defence explain the purpose of the schools in civil defence now being conducted? Were certain recommendations made as the outcome of the schools held last year? Have those recommendations been implemented? </para>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<para>- <inline font-style="italic">1 am quite sure</inline> that the honorable senator will appreciate that 1, personally, have no knowledge of those matters. If he places the question on the notice-paper, I will have an answer supplied to him. </para>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<title>STANDARDIZATION OF RAILWAY GAUGES</title>
<page.no>121</page.no>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<para>- By way of preface to a question addressed to the Minister for Shipping and Transport, I mention that last night the Senate learned, I think with great satisfaction, of the Government's plans in relation to proposals for the standardization of the railway gauge between Wodonga and Melbourne. Can the Minister tell the Senate whether consideration will be given, in due course, to a similar series of negotiations between the Commonwealth Government and the Western Australian Government relating to the standardization of the railway gauge between Kalgoorlie and Perth? </para>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<para>- It is with some enthusiasm that I assure my Western Australian colleague that, in due course, the Government will give consideration to the important project to which he refers. </para>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<title>ENGLISH CLASSES FOR IMMIGRANTS</title>
<page.no>121</page.no>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<electorate>through Senator Dame Annabelle Rankin</electorate>
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<para>asked the Minister representing the Minister for Immigration, upon notice - </para>
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<para>Has the Minister seen a press report that the Minister for Education in South Australia has stated that migrants are failing to set an example to their children by not speaking in English in their homes, and that migrants should attend classes to learn to speak English? </para>
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<para>Do migrant children in fact have unusual difficulties in their schools in learning English? </para>
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<para>Are classes in English available to intending migrants before they leave their own countries? </para>
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<para>How many new Australians have passed through English classes provided by the department in Australia? </para>
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<para>How many new Australians are at present receiving tuition under the scheme? </para>
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<para>How much per annum do the classes cost and how much has been spent on the teaching of English over the last ten years? </para>
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<page.no>121</page.no>
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<para>- The Minister for Immigration has supplied the following answers: - </para>
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<para>The press report which came to my notice contained no implication of a general nature that migrants are not attending classes to learn English. In South Australia the State Education Department is the responsible authority for the implementation of the scheme. The policy aspects are determined by the Commonwealth and the costs borne by it. For the month of June the enrolments in South Australia were 3,944. In addition, over 2,000 migrants received booklets during that month, which enabled them to follow the A.B.C. broadcasts for English instruction. </para>
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<para>The experience of my department is that generally migrant children experience no difficulty in acquiring a knowledge of the English language. Naturally, there are exceptions to this general rule and it is doubtless to these that the statement of the Minister for Education refers. </para>
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<para>Many migrants are given instruction in English before leaving Europe for Australia. </para>
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<para>The total number of enrolments since the Migrant Education Scheme commenced would be about 240,000. This is exclusive of migrants who received instruction in English on ships during their voyage to Australia. In addition must be added an average of over 13,000 migrants per month who receive radio booklets for use in conjunction with A. B.C. broadcasts. Some of these would, of course, be included in the 240,000 referred to. </para>
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<para>The latest figures available are for June last. In that month over 19,000 students were receiving instruction in English in 1,232 classes throughout the Commonwealth. Over 13,000 students were also at that time enrolled for correspondence courses and radio booklets were distributed to 13,400 migrants. </para>
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<para>Expenditure incurred on Adult Migrant Education (including shipboard education) since the inception of the scheme is as follows: - </para>
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<page.no>122</page.no>
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<page.no>122</page.no>
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<para>asked the Minister representing the Minister for Trade, upon notice - </para>
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<para>Is it a fact, as reported in the "West Australian ", of 14th August, that second-grade New Zealand beef is being sold in Japan as " Australian beef", and that it is being sold to avoid labelling second-grade beef as coming from New Zealand? </para>
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<para>Is it also a fact, as stated, that the beef sells more readily because of the high reputation in Japan for Australian goods? </para>
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<para>If the answer to 1 is in the affirmative, was the information that New Zealand meat was being so labelled supplied to the Minister by any of the numerous representatives Australia has stationed overseas? </para>
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<para>Will the Minister take immediate steps to ensure that no goods are sold overseas as Australian produce if such goods are not of Australian origin? </para>
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<para>- The Minister for Primary Industry has supplied the following information in reply to the honorable senator's questions: - </para>
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<para>The first report that New Zealand beef is selling in Japanese butchers' shops as Australian beef was made in the "Auckland Star", of 13th </para>
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<para>August. The report suggested that Japanese retailers were probably responsible for the misleading advertising as Australian beef was better known and it was therefore good business to brand New Zealand beef as Australian. </para>
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<para>It is reported that at present the meat market in Japan is glutted through heavy shipments from New Zealand. Australian beef shipments have been of higher quality and have met with a keen demand from the Japanese consumer. It is quite possible that Japanese retailers may be taking advantage of this fact to dispose of the New Zealand beef. </para>
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<para>The report of the "Auckland Star" was received from the Australian Government Trade Commissioner at Auckland, New Zealand. The Australian Trade Commissioner in Tokyo has reported that he had not heard of the allegation before his attention was directed to the report in the " Auckland Star " and the matter is being fully investigated. </para>
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<para>Australian meat exported to Japan is properly branded before shipment. However, there is no way of identifying inside cuts when the carcass is broken up. If the report is substantiated, consideration will be given to the question of official representations. </para>
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