Wind fixes

[biggeryetbetter]

Done:

• Player is not slowed down when they work with wind.
• Most flying enemies act as expected with wind.

Todo:

• "Current" variant of wind.

[Rusty-Box]

A issue that does still persist is that when the wind is set to values (I believe) below Tux max. walk/run speed, Tux will not be moved by the wind when standing still, stuck in his run animation.

Also, I feel that wind should always affect things when they are in their zone. Right now if you don't jump it will not affect you at all, even though you are clearly inside the wind zone.

wind.mp4

[biggeryetbetter]

I have made several changes to the wind physics process that seem to have fixed these behaviors. I've also added a prototype "current" that does not affect dive mines. I would like some clarification about what you mean in #2592:

You have better control within the current for better navigation and correcting

By this, do you mean faster acceleration/deceleration?

[Rusty-Box]

So the thought behind the current was that (since it is underwater) it can be used to suck/push Tux into an area. However, Tux should be able to swim against the current if it is not too strong. Now that should probably apply to both the current and wind. Main difference is that the current type would have different particles (i.e. bubbles) to better fit the aquatic theme.

[Rusty-Box]

Somethig I noticed with the "Current". It is very hard to fight it. Especially with an acceleration of 100. You would expect setting the speed of wind lower than Tux's swim/boost speed, he'd still be able to slowly go against the current. However, I seemingly get force-halted by the current even thought techincally Tux should still be able to swim through (obviously slower). It lets me swim for a short moment before halting all my progress, even when oosting which is moves very fast! Even with an acceleration of 10.

current_wip_issue.mp4

Also, make sure to have the "Current" particles fade out rather than suddenly disappearing in an instant.

[Rusty-Box]

I would not be suprised if something similar applies to the normal wind as well

[biggeryetbetter]

I'm admittedly a bit stuck on this issue. While the normal wind seems to be working correctly, it seems that in water, the acceleration from current is still vastly overpowering that from swimming. Unfortunately I'm not really sure how to fix that without also altering how swimming works- any ideas would be appreciated.

[Rusty-Box]

Unfortunately I'm not really sure how to fix that without also altering how swimming works- any ideas would be appreciated.

Altering swimming in what way? Swimming is still a fairly "unpolished" mechanic so alterations are still legitimate as long as they improve it. So depending on how would have to alter it, you might be able to go through with it.

[biggeryetbetter]

Alright, I've tried tweaking swimming to actually work with wind. Let me know what you think. Boosting in particular seems to sometimes create large radii on turns which might need to be fixed.

Also, how can I make the water bubbles fade out?

[Rusty-Box]

Found a couple bugs:

• Walking through wind and standing, Tux gets pushed much weaker as when he jumps afterwards

inconsistent_wind_push.mp4

• When underwater Tux will attempt to always move left when letting go of the directional keys.

swim_bug.mp4

• At higher acceleration, around 100 (default value) but also noticeable aroud 50, Tux begins kinda jittering in a current and also somewhat stop an go when at higher speed wind

wind_current_jitter.mp4

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It also seems that the wind affect Tux statically, i.e. instead of his speed accelerating or decelerating "smoothly" it changes instantly. Atleast that's how it felt to me. It should ease into the new faster/slower speed to make the transition more smooth. This seems to apply to both wind and current, if that is truly what is happening, maybe I'm mistaken here.

[biggeryetbetter]

I can confirm the first and third bugs but I'm not able to recreate the second one. Can you upload the setup that is shown in the video?

Another bug: Pressing the down arrow rapidly while moving into fast wind somehow allows you to go through easier. This is caused by some stuff around line 1586 of player.cpp and I don't know what they are supposed to do so I won't touch them.

[Rusty-Box]

Can you upload the setup that is shown in the video?

This is the level I tested and discovered that bug:

wind_test_level.zip

[Rusty-Box]

More bugs I found:

• Buttjumping in downwards moving wind breaks the animation, i.e. Tux gets stuck in his buttjump an/or stomp animation after touching the ground.
• Tux cannot duck when in wind that goes downwards

[Rusty-Box]

I also noticed that when you swim in the Current and you move in the direction it goes, you kinda seem to break the speed at which it is pushing you, like you get a bit slower than when you just get pushed without moving yourself. This might also apply to normal wind. Not sure on that. I usually notice it best while swimming.

[Rusty-Box]

Okay I keep finding many more bugs - sry 'bout that :D

So apparently, Dive Mine is still affected by currents but also when they leave the current/wind area they keep on going, never stopping. Also getting pushed underwater is still somewhat jittery. Feathering help a little bit but overall needs a much higher value than normal wind to be smoothed out fully, for the most part.

Speaking of feathering, so idk if I fully get what it does specifically but the best values I've seen with it seems to be around 350? Can shed some more light on what it does exactly because with default value of 16 it looks horribly jittery

[biggeryetbetter]

Don't worry; that's what open-source is all about. I haven't done a particularly good job testing each change, to be honest.

Also, the way feathering works is that it calculates how far the center of your hitbox is from the edge of the wind area (in pixels), then divides it by the feathering distance and clamps it between 0 and 1. It wasn't introduced to fix the jittering (that is caused by friction) but rather the fact that tux would keep "bouncing" off the edge of strong wind instead of pushing up against it like you might expect.

My main problem with how it works right now is that if you put wind in a tunnel, like in the test level you showed previously, the top and bottom edges of the wind will have feathering, even though this makes no sense inside a tunnel.

Also, I found out that I was calculating m_wind_velocity (should actually be m_wind_acceleration) completely wrong which seems to have been what was going on when you said

It is very hard to fight it. Especially with an acceleration of 100. You would expect setting the speed of wind lower than Tux's swim/boost speed, he'd still be able to slowly go against the current.

I will keep attacking these issues and hopefully we can get this to work soon!

[Rusty-Box]

Any further progress on this? Just checking :)

[biggeryetbetter]

Not really as I have again been busy with other things. It seems like the cause of the weird jittering bug is that wind only collides with tux every few game ticks and adds velocity, in between which, friction causes tux to suddenly slow down. That is what I have been stuck on currently.

[biggeryetbetter]

Alright I think I got the jittering issue fixed finally... Sorry that took awhile. Let me know what you think and of any bugs you find.

[Rusty-Box]

• Jittering appears to be fixed indeed. The only thing that happens is that Tux's walk animation start,stops,start,stops the whole time if you don't hold the direction key you're going.

animation_jitter.mp4

• Knowing that Tux walk and run speed can go up to iirc. 230 and 320 repsectivly, I'm suprised that if you walk against wind with a 100 value Tux barely manages to walk against it. As if the wind was suddenly way stronger. Also when Tux jumps still gets pushed stronger than when he is on the ground, which is odd.

wind_stronger_pushback.mp4

• Reaching the top of a wind area occassionally push Tux much higher + objects that walk or stand in up facing wind don't get pushed up. They're not even affectd by wind at all even the they should

changing_wind_push.mp4

wind_badguy_bug.mp4