NumPy logo refresh #37
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It's OK if it's no longer SVG, but it would be nice to have a vectorized image of some sort, e.g., for printing at large scale. The original commit (numpy/numpy@c5b2f31) was by @cournape, and suggests that it was made with Adobe Illustrator: "Generator: Adobe Illustrator 12.0.1, SVG Export Plug-In . SVG Version: 6.00 Build 51448" |
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David says this could have been made by @tvaught. |
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The green-blue faces look like they could use a bit more contrast, but looks good. |
The logos at the top of scipy.org were mostly (all?) made by Travis Vaught. The image of the bug took a lot of work. |
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An only-slightly-serious suggestion - export svg from an iteration of matplotlib's version of our logo https://matplotlib.org/3.1.1/gallery/mplot3d/voxels_numpy_logo.html |
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My 2 cents here but it might be good to reduce (or remove) the transparency that makes it difficult to read the logo and maybe change perspective a bit. Something like:
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Not sure about the angle or removal of the N, but I do think the transparency looks a little messy in the top image (and the current logo). The hard border you added might be a nice analogy for the "nd container of elements" model that numpy has, and also make it a little more suited to things like stickers. |
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At scikit-image, we are looking to make a hexagonal sticker in the vein of the TidyR ecosystem and others, to make tiling a laptop easier. My only reservation with @rougier's suggestion is that it looks very similar to some top scikit-image logo proposals. =P |
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While I'm not one to be too opinionated about logos, so long as they look nice, I prefer logos that contain at least some text indicating what project they're from! The S in the original scipy logo, the N in this one, or even the full name, as it's quite short. While we all use these projects daily and can keep the logos straight, it's just cubes and squiggles to most people who look at our laptop lids and water bottles. Ideally, a logo attracts the eye and directs the mind to your product. All we're doing here is attracting the eye. We could put the letters of "NumPy" in the blocks, put it below (a la Citgo), etc. I just think we serve the project better with a logo that tells people what it's for. Also, just a nit, in Summer's logo, the darker orange panel in one of the faces is inconsistent with the others. It's supposed to be the right face of the left-neighboring block, not the left face of the containing block. I'm referring to the leftmost block with any dark-orange shading. --jh-- |
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That looks very nice. Would it be possible to make the lines along the edges of the cubes converge to points at finite distances, i.e. to give it some perspective? I think that would improve it considerably. |
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I am +1 for being a bit more liberal about changing the logo (but it is not a quick task...). Another nice thing is that it can be made black and white (in other words, if someone spends some real time, I doubt there is much need for the old SVG file). Getting rid of the transparency seems indeed a good idea to make it clearer, although I do not know if the side/face contrast is currently high enough (at least without additional edges). |
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Here is another try:
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And a slightly different one:
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Great to see there's interest in a larger redesign. @rougier very nice! Like the cubes. Not sure about a web link in the logo, that's unusual - why not just "NumPy" or "NUMPY"? Colored variations on that from Summer:
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Hi,
How would it look with an N on all three visible faces?
For what it's worth, I like these colored versions.
Cheers,
Matthew
…On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:38 PM Ralf Gommers ***@***.***> wrote:
Great to see there's interest in a larger redesign. @rougier
<https://github.com/rougier> very nice! Like the cubes. Not sure about a
web link in the logo, that's unusual - why not just "NumPy" or "NUMPY"?
Colored variations on that from Summer:
[image: rougier Numpy logo name below-02]
<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/98330/64479472-4b35c900-d16c-11e9-8d49-71fc02cd539f.png>
[image: rougier Numpy logo no name-01]
<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/98330/64479473-4b35c900-d16c-11e9-89d3-9679a0a9af3c.png>
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I like the colored version too. What are the colors and the font name ? It might be also possible to "code" it using matplotlib once there is stabilized version. |
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Since I’m listed as one of the ideators of the NumPy logo refresh, perhaps I should share my thoughts on the subject.:)
Also to bring the existing NumPy logo to the 21st century its look should be simplified. Maybe like this? I can add color if you like the concept. |
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Based on the feedback received from the participants of the latest NumPy community call, I’d like for the community to consider the following ideas for the logo refresh. |
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Here are the colored versions of the proposed above: |
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I like the direction this is going! But maybe the coloration could be a like more... snakelike? This is a little more evocative of the Python logo:
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Another variation on the snake+grid theme: |
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I think I'd prefer a coloring where the small cubes are uniform in color across their faces- numpy 3d arrays work in terms of volumes, not surfaces - so the first variant looks nicer there to me. |
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Think of the color as the value set using advanced indexing ;). Tried a bit with 3x3, after trying to color only sides (EDIT: Sorry Eric, just realized some of the snakes above the same small cube was colored differently. I agree about that!):
EDIT2: I think half/half split for the color is probably better (also becaues its closer to the python logo):
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Scikit image had some nice (but quite different) roundish cube logo ideas, which they probably will not use, so may be worth looking at. @stefanv would know where to look at them. |
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I like the 2nd last and last ones of yours @seberg. It doesn't mess with my sense of perspective so much. My brain complains very loudly about #1 (and similar one above) for that reason. Here are some beautiful designs we were looking at, but like Sebastian said we're currently leaning in the direction of something slightly different. Hyperlogo design by Rogerio Maroja:
Hypercube design by Guenevere Prawiroatmodjo:
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The 3D perception not working out is one of the main issue I also have with some of the designs. @InessaPawson I am a bit curious, are black and white versions allowed to be gray scale to help the 3D perception be less confusing? |
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To be clear, are we voting on a final logo, or will discussion continue narrowed to a specific design idea after the vote? |
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Final logo design. |
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Wrong time to bring it up, but suppose we used a slab-serif font to pick up the squares?
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@ivanov Thank you for your comment, Paul! We had a brief discussion at the latest NumPy community call about the low rate of participation in making a final decision on the new NumPy logo design. Given the attention this topic previously received from the community, the two possible explanations were the discussion participants and contributors missed the announcements from Ralf and Isabela about the ongoing voting and upcoming deadline, or the absence of the “none of the above” option. Based on the feedback we have received since my latest post on the mailing list, it looks like it was a combination of both. |
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The votes are in and it looks like the alternative A ( #326 )has the most support by far. This will be the refreshed NumPy logo:
Thanks for everyone’s time and input! I’ll follow up with each of the separate versions for alternative A soon. |
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Will using a third shade of blue to distinguish top and side faces be considered as one of the variants? |
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I would suggest sticking with what was voted on, unless @isabela-pf believes one of the too-late-to-consider suggestions are potentially significant improvements (personally both look worse to me). |
@eric-wieser No, I meant I am going to post separate full color and one color options as well as options with and without the wordmark. Sorry that was unclear! |
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Here are the final logos as pngs and my recommended logo usage guidelines! The primary logo is the horizontal option and secondary logo is the version with the logomark over text. I’ve also provided the logomark on its own (meaning it doesn’t have NumPy written). When in doubt, it’s preferable to use primary or secondary options over the wordmark alone. Primary Primary Dark Primary Light Secondary Secondary Dark Secondary Light Logomark Logomark Dark Logomark Light |
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The full color options are a combo of Maximum Blue (#4DABCF) and Han Blue (#4D77CF), while light options are white and dark options Warm Black (#013243). Whenever possible, use the full color logos. One color logos (light or dark) are to be used when full color will not have enough contrast, usually when logos must be on colored backgrounds. Please do not make the primary logo smaller than 50px wide, secondary logo smaller than 35px wide, and logomark smaller than 20px wide. Here are a few other notes to keep in mind when using the logo: If this information about logo use should be recorded elsewhere, let me know. |
Thank you so much, Isabela! |
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Those look awesome, thanks @isabela-pf! All PRs are now merged, and the new logo is visible on https://numpy.org/ and on the README of the main repo. So I think it's time to close this issue. Thanks everyone for all the input! |
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Looks excellent! 🎉 |
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Just saw the new logo on the readme! Looks awesome ! Great job ! |
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As the designer of the original logo, I must say that I’m very pleased with this refreshed logo…it’s about time!
Thanks to all who worked on this. Looking back at the friendly debate and the competence of the contributors, I’m very impressed with our community.
Best Regards,
Travis (Vaught)
… On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Ralf Gommers ***@***.***> wrote:
Those look awesome, thanks @isabela-pf <https://github.com/isabela-pf>!
All PRs are now merged, and the new logo is visible on https://numpy.org/ <https://numpy.org/> and on the README of the main repo. So I think it's time to close this issue.
Thanks everyone for all the input!
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Looks like some of our trial non-final logos are being used in the wild...
(from the numba dev meeting) |
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Yes, I saw that logo (and I think one other here) previously as well... I guess it will hopefully flush out slowly, its a bit strange how those came into circulation... |
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Thanks to @melissawm 's ping in SciPy.org PR, I remembered that I forgot to put this here; logomark in TikZ to be used by TeX users. I didn't recreate the paths but rather got all the definitions from the SVG file \documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
\definecolor{Maximum Blue}{HTML}{4DABCF}
\definecolor{Han Blue}{HTML}{4D77CF}
\definecolor{Warm Black}{HTML}{013243}
\usetikzlibrary{svg.path}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[scale=1]% Change scale here
\begin{scope}[yscale=-1]
\path (0,0) rectangle (500pt,500pt);% Bounding box for padding
\fill[Maximum Blue]% Set "white" for light theme, and "Warm Black" for dark theme
svg[scale=1pt]{M220.93 127.14 151.77 92.23 75.87 130.11 146.9 165.78 220.93 127.14}
svg[scale=1pt]{M252.63 143.14 325.14 179.74 249.91 217.52 178.77 181.79 252.63 143.14}
svg[scale=1pt]{M349.47 92.76 423.96 130.11 357.34 163.57 284.68 126.92 349.47 92.76}
svg[scale=1pt]{M317.41 76.67 250.35 43.05 184.01 76.15 253.11 111 317.41 76.67}
svg[scale=1pt]{M264.98 365.44 264.98 456.95 346.22 416.41 346.13 324.86 264.98 365.44}
svg[scale=1pt]{M346.1 292.91 346.01 202.32 264.98 242.6 264.98 333.22 346.1 292.91}
svg[scale=1pt]{M443.63 275.93 443.63 367.8 374.34 402.38 374.29 310.93 443.63 275.93}
svg[scale=1pt]{M443.63 243.81 443.63 153.79 374.21 188.3 374.27 279.07 443.63 243.81};
\fill[Han Blue]% Set "white" for light theme, and "Warm Black" for dark theme
svg[scale=1pt] {M236.3 242.6l -54.72-27.51V 334s -66.92-142.39-73.12-155.18c-.8-1.65
-4.09-3.46-4.93-3.9-12-6.3-47.16-24.11-47.16-24.11V 360.89l48.64,26V
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See numpy/numpy.org#37 Sorry for the noisy diff, my Inkscape is newer now.
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new logo reminds me of windows 10 rather than numpy
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Just noticed the new logo. This is fantastic! Thanks for putting it together! |
and others
Both @InessaPawson and @shoyer suggested a refresh of the NumPy logo recently. Summer gave that a go, tweaking the colors for more contrast:
Unfortunately she could not keep the logo in SVG. It hasn't been touched in a decade, and was made with some unknown tool that didn't align well with her tools. Does anyone remember who made the current logo, and how?
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