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Update democracy.md #200
Update democracy.md #200
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Interesting idea, and no worries about the markup - we can work on that! In my view the power of a written constitution is that you can hold it, and read it, and understand your basic rights. In a way it's not to clarify the law, which is getting along OK, but people's understanding of it. Would be interested in other contributors' opinions as well... |
I'm going to block this temporarily as we don't want to merge as-is, but it's still open for discussion. 👎 |
Agree with James on this. On this point specifically: "However, there are special Acts (Single European Act, Human Rights Act etc.) where the courts rule in favour of the special statute, rather than the newer one. So new laws have to comply with these special laws." - Acts of Parliament can always be changed, and too often ministers can affect change by order, rather than through scrutiny. A layer above that - a written constitution - would enshrine rights that could not be changed except by extraordinary circumstances (e.g. a 'super' majority in both houses AND a public referendum). |
I realise your very reasonable points, however…
Alex |
Sorry I'm in favour of a single document defining our Constitution which will set out the rules of how Government and Parliament operates, as well as the rights of citizens. This should be clear, unambiguous, and easily accessible (ie not written in legalese) 👎 |
I agree – but I fear a country can spend a decade arguing what should be in such a document. Starting a grassroots campaign to define the contents of a constitution would be quite fitting in the 800th year of Magna Carta but I haven’t signed up for that. My proposal simply offers an opportunity to campaign on the principle of a constitution without getting bogged down in divisive details. Just a thought Alex From: Paul Robinson [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sorry I'm in favour of a single document defining our Constitution which will set out the rules of how Government and Parliament operates, as well as the rights of citizens. This should be clear, unambiguous, and easily accessible (ie not written in legalese) https://assets-cdn.github.com/images/icons/emoji/unicode/1f44e.png — |
Having had a chat to Alex the other day about it, this is more about the process of creating the constitution, rather than whether there should be one. I'll try to turn this into a policy proposal so it's clearer... |
Worth looking at what happened in Iceland, where they did have a crowd-sourced constitution, and I gather it didn't take that long. It fell at the final hurdle on a 'technicality' and we can learn from that... |
It "fell on a technicality" mainly because established wealth and power managed to kill it. At least, that's my understanding. It was a good process though. |
We all agree there should be a written constitution. It has almost zero public interest. We can't spend too much time on this. Ideally a successful election campaign would help explain why we need a constitution Alex Sent from my iPhone
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I'm going to close this and open another PR with the core idea of a "blank sheet" constitution, but written in a way that we can merge in. |
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Proposal for an open source constitution. Sorry I couldn't work out the markup rules. Alex