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Android 14 #327

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dmitrykok opened this issue Nov 24, 2023 Discussed in #315 · 475 comments
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Android 14 #327

dmitrykok opened this issue Nov 24, 2023 Discussed in #315 · 475 comments

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@dmitrykok
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Discussed in #315

Originally posted by sensorial7 November 8, 2023
Hello, There is a problem with the Android 14 platform, after installing Fermata Auto and Control version 1.9.5 via Kinginstaller 1.4, there are no fermata icons in the AndroidAuto service. Everything worked on the previous version of Android 13. When can we expect the new version of Fermata dedicated to Android 14

On my Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra, FermataAuto stopped working. Just I don't see it in AndroidAuto from now. FermataControl do exist in AndroidAuto. Tried to reinstall and reinstall with clean data, clean data of AndroidAuto and reinstall clean AndroidAuto, nothing help.
AndroidAuto: 10.8.634424-release
Android: 14

I resolved it by compiling it by myself and added some keys to manifests files. I did it according to:
https://developer.android.com/training/cars/media/auto

to:
control/src/main/AndroidManifest.xml
added:
<uses-sdk android:minSdkVersion="23" android:targetSdkVersion="34" />

to:
fermata/src/auto/res/xml/automotive_app_desc.xml
added:
<uses name="media" />

to:
fermata/src/main/AndroidManifest.xml
added:
<uses-sdk android:minSdkVersion="23" android:targetSdkVersion="34" />

Actually maybe only this is needed, because min and target SDK are set via Gradle:
to:
fermata/src/auto/res/xml/automotive_app_desc.xml
added:
<uses name="media" />

@AndreyPavlenko
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AndreyPavlenko commented Nov 24, 2023

Adding <uses name="media" />, you make it a standard AA media app. I.e. no custom interface, no video etc.

@dmitrykok
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Yes you're right, now I see it in AndroidAuto, but it runs like FermataControl :(
So how this can be fixed ? FermataAuto without <uses name="media" /> just not seen in AndroidAuto.

@AndreyPavlenko
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Unfortunately, I don't know. The only solution now is to root your device. I've not tested this option, but people say it works.

@dmitrykok
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Tried to downgrade to older versions from May 2023 of AndroidAuto, still no FermataAuto in it.

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dmitrykok commented Nov 25, 2023

Additional info, all works fine when run in "Desktop Head Unit". When disconnect from "Desktop Head Unit" FermataAuto disappear from AndroidAuto.

@AndreyPavlenko
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Additional info, all works fine when run in "Desktop Head Unit".

That's strange. Previously it was the case when 'Unknown sources" was disabled in AA settings.

@akulp
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akulp commented Nov 25, 2023

Unfortunately, I don't know. The only solution now is to root your device. I've not tested this option, but people say it works.

@AndreyPavlenko is it confirmed that works on rooted devices?

I have Pixel 7 Pro, A14, unrooted.

But if it works with root, I'll go for it.

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I can't confirm that.

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Additional info, all works fine when run in "Desktop Head Unit".

That's strange. Previously it was the case when 'Unknown sources" was disabled in AA settings.

Yes, 'Unknown sources' was always enabled in my AA.
Interesting thing in "Desktop Head Unit". When "Desktop Head Unit" not running, open "Customize launcher" in AA, you don't see "FermataAuto", start "Desktop Head Unit" - exist from "Customize launcher" and open it once more, you will see "FermataAuto" in AA. After closing "Desktop Head Unit" - exist from "Customize launcher" and open it once more "FermataAuto" disappeared from AA.
Looks like "Desktop Head Unit" put AA in some "dev" not restricted mode. Maybe I will try to capture communication between AA and DHU and will see some "set dev mode" message. Maybe we can put AA in this "dev and not restricted mode" without DHU.

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As I know the wired to wireless devices "AAWireless" have a setting to enabled and then all app will showed as if connected to pc emulator and Is confirmed working on A14 too, should be interesting to see how is work and if was replicable software side without that hardware, unfortunately I have "Carsifi" and seem a abandoned from dev 🥲

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Hello @fcaronte
where to find this option in the "AAWireless" app, and how it is called, and how to active this, for Fermata, that it is shown in the launchpad again on a A14 U23ultra device?

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Hello, fermata was running on Android 13. After the Android 14 update, it first gave a warning that it was not compatible with this version, but it continued to work despite this. When I uninstalled and reinstalled it, it didn't work. Maybe it can help you with your work.

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Hello @fcaronte
where to find this option in the "AAWireless" app, and how it is called, and how to active this, for Fermata, that it is shown in the launchpad again on a A14 U23ultra device?

I don't know exactly what's could be, I haven't tested myself, if you have it give a check to all options maybe is the one to continue using app during movement

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Hello, fermata was running on Android 13. After the Android 14 update, it first gave a warning that it was not compatible with this version, but it continued to work despite this. When I uninstalled and reinstalled it, it didn't work. Maybe it can help you with your work.

So you loose your jolly, app was working when updating from A13 to A14 but after you touch that app, reinstall update etc will stop to work and actually no solution without root

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akulp commented Dec 11, 2023

Hello, fermata was running on Android 13. After the Android 14 update, it first gave a warning that it was not compatible with this version, but it continued to work despite this. When I uninstalled and reinstalled it, it didn't work. Maybe it can help you with your work.

So you loose your jolly, app was working when updating from A13 to A14 but after you touch that app, reinstall update etc will stop to work and actually no solution without root

If you check few posts above, there's no "official" confirmation to work on rooted devices as well... :(

@alpayyildirim
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There is no problem with Android 14s that have been updated from Android 13. If you want to install it later, it gives an error. I think if you make changes to the root directories, this problem will be solved.

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akulp commented Dec 11, 2023

Can you please describe what changes?

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Hello, fermata was running on Android 13. After the Android 14 update, it first gave a warning that it was not compatible with this version, but it continued to work despite this. When I uninstalled and reinstalled it, it didn't work. Maybe it can help you with your work.

So you loose your jolly, app was working when updating from A13 to A14 but after you touch that app, reinstall update etc will stop to work and actually no solution without root

If you check few posts above, there's no "official" confirmation to work on rooted devices as well... :(

Will never exist an official status, all things are based on test from someone and actually root seem the only solution but is not suggested to root

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@alpayyildirim
Please make some suggestion what means exactly "I think if you make changes to the root directories, this problem will be solved." what and where do do, whitout rooting the phone...

@alpayyildirim
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I have no knowledge about this, sorry. I just stated that there is no problem in switching from A13 to A14. This may be an idea for software developer friends.

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akulp commented Dec 11, 2023

Hello, fermata was running on Android 13. After the Android 14 update, it first gave a warning that it was not compatible with this version, but it continued to work despite this. When I uninstalled and reinstalled it, it didn't work. Maybe it can help you with your work.

So you loose your jolly, app was working when updating from A13 to A14 but after you touch that app, reinstall update etc will stop to work and actually no solution without root

If you check few posts above, there's no "official" confirmation to work on rooted devices as well... :(

Will never exist an official status, all things are based on test from someone and actually root seem the only solution but is not suggested to root

With "official" I meant that Fermata will be (some day I hope) supported on A14 by author.

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scheuerer commented Dec 11, 2023

I found by myself an solution for me (not tested in the car so far), but the Fermata Icon is visable again in the AA launcher pad from the app.

  1. Made an backup file from the configuration from Fermata on the local phone e.g. in the folder "download".
  2. Deinstalled Fermata from the A14 Phone.
  3. Installed it from the Google Store (the offical version, release 1.8.11)
  4. Open it and restored the configuration from the backup file
  5. Downloaded from (in the app via the link) the latest version (1.96)
  6. Made upgrade of the app
  7. Open the app and all the feature and settings are still there.
  8. Check in the AA Launcher, and it was added as a new app I can move it on which place in the launcher I want.

So let's cross the fingers, that it will be also visable in the car when when testing it tonight.

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I found by myself an solution for me (not tested in the car so far), but the Fermata Icon is visable again in the AA launcher pad from the app.

  1. Made an backup file from the configuration from Fermata on the local phone e.g. in the folder "download".
  2. Deinstalled Fermata from the A14 Phone.
  3. Installed it from the Google Store (the offical version, release 1.8.11)
  4. Open it and restored the configuration from the backup file
  5. Downloaded from (in the app via the link) the latest version (1.96)
  6. Made upgrade of the app
  7. Open the app and all the feature and settings are still there.
  8. Check in the AA Launcher, and it was added as a new app I can move it on which place in the launcher I want.

So let's cross the fingers, that it will be also visable in the car when when testing it tonight.

Umh go to try because see icon won't mean is working, and as I remember PlayStore version have different packages name so probably you have two Fermata installed

@scheuerer
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@fcaronte: You are correct :-) I have now two apps on the phone. The one is "Fermata", with less features, and the other "Fermata Auto" with more features. In the AA Launcher the "Fermata" is visable and not "Fermata Auto". So I assume, that only the light version will be working in the car under AA. As I use for IPTV the IPcarTV App, it is current not this important for me personal. Main focus is watching local stored music-videos. So not perfect, but fine for me for the the first time. Let's cross the fingers, that we are able to help Andrey to find a workaround for us.

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@fcaronte: You are correct :-) I have now two apps on the phone. The one is "Fermata", with less features, and the other "Fermata Auto" with more features. In the AA Launcher the "Fermata" is visable and not "Fermata Auto". So I assume, that only the light version will be working in the car under AA. As I use for IPTV the IPcarTV App, it is current not this important for me personal. Main focus is watching local stored music-videos. So not perfect, but fine for me for the the first time. Let's cross the fingers, that we are able to help Andrey to find a workaround for us.

With the PlayStore version you can use the music part only without video, like with the Fermata control

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scheuerer commented Dec 11, 2023

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Here comes the picture from the Fermata now working again, with all features, after my 8 steps I have written .
So this is for me a temporary solution, having two times Fermata installed on my A14 phone.

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20231211_204918
Here comes the picture from the Fermata now working again, with all features, after my 8 steps I have written .
So this is for me a temporary solution, having two times Fermata installed on my A14 phone.

Good so need to try this step

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20231211_204918
Here comes the picture from the Fermata now working again, with all features, after my 8 steps I have written .
So this is for me a temporary solution, having two times Fermata installed on my A14 phone.

I read your step but for me now you actually have two installed versions of Fermata because play store and GitHub Version have two different packages name then maybe have two app installed is the trick, give a check if confirm the two app together

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akulp commented Dec 11, 2023

20231211_204918
Here comes the picture from the Fermata now working again, with all features, after my 8 steps I have written .
So this is for me a temporary solution, having two times Fermata installed on my A14 phone.

I read your step but for me now you actually have two installed versions of Fermata because play store and GitHub Version have two different packages name then maybe have two app installed is the trick, give a check if confirm the two app together

I'm not sure, so asking again. You had Fermata installed on A13 before? Then you made upgrade to A14?

Btw, off-topic. How did you move AA "navigation bar" on the left side? I tried with ON/OFF "Show quick controls for apps" option from settings, but it does not work for me.
Maybe it depends from screen size ...

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scheuerer commented Dec 11, 2023

I started with A13 and Fermata auto 1.9.5.
No issue. I upgrade to A14. No issue with 1.9.5
Now I updated to 1.9.6 under A14 and have had the issue.

After the 8 steps, I have 2 x Fermata on the phone.
In the launcher AA app it is called Fermata and not more Fermata Auto, but in my car Fermata is working with all features
as before…

Under AA there is a flag called change layout (closer to the driver)

@fcaronte
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So i try, and yes for me too is show icon with passtrought off, so the icon is related on when I enable the developer mode 20240411_160422.jpg

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So i try, and yes for me too is show icon with passtrought off, so the icon is related on when I enable the developer mode 20240411_160422.jpg

Awesome thanks that's a good indicator. Can you please also take a screenshot from the main settings page where the information tab is.

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There nothing special on main Page but give checkScreenshot_20240411_190314_AAWireless.jpg

@MertSenel
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There nothing special on main Page but give checkScreenshot_20240411_190314_AAWireless.jpg

Thanks, this is very useful. This confirms me that our hardware and firmware versions for the AA wireless dongle are the same.

So only difference I can see now is our car head units. Whatever AA wireless dongle does to be in "developer mode" and seeing that generix Exit button rather than car manufacturers icon, that does not work for me in my car.

I think somehow Nissan circumvents the connection and enforce its own flavour I suppose.

Today Ive tried deleting all connections from car, phonea Bluetooth and did a full storage data/cache clear do AA app.

Restarted phone, gone into AA app settings, enabled Develeoper settings, enabled unknown sources etc all of those things.

Plugged in AA wireless to car, Re connected AA and setup. Same thing, can see Nissan logo on exit app and apps still wont appear.

My car is a relatively new built in May 2023 make so I wonder there are some updates to these Head units that makes them any different

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There nothing special on main Page but give checkScreenshot_20240411_190314_AAWireless.jpg

Thanks, this is very useful. This confirms me that our hardware and firmware versions for the AA wireless dongle are the same.

So only difference I can see now is our car head units. Whatever AA wireless dongle does to be in "developer mode" and seeing that generix Exit button rather than car manufacturers icon, that does not work for me in my car.

I think somehow Nissan circumvents the connection and enforce its own flavour I suppose.

Today Ive tried deleting all connections from car, phonea Bluetooth and did a full storage data/cache clear do AA app.

Restarted phone, gone into AA app settings, enabled Develeoper settings, enabled unknown sources etc all of those things.

Plugged in AA wireless to car, Re connected AA and setup. Same thing, can see Nissan logo on exit app and apps still wont appear.

My car is a relatively new built in May 2023 make so I wonder there are some updates to these Head units that makes them any different

At this point should be that on your nissan there are incompatibility and AAwireless use some trick to work but can't use that settings? To understand I think you should try your phone + AAwireless in another car to see if work with actual settings and maybe try to ask to AAwireless development, oh another thing maybe try to run android auto through carplay and see if I'm that mode can use development mode correctly (try enable AA to CP) and all will be rebooted as a new "iPhone" connection, in my car this mode fix the audio video sync problem but att problem to call and so I can't use

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There nothing special on main Page but give checkScreenshot_20240411_190314_AAWireless.jpg

Thanks, this is very useful. This confirms me that our hardware and firmware versions for the AA wireless dongle are the same.

So only difference I can see now is our car head units. Whatever AA wireless dongle does to be in "developer mode" and seeing that generix Exit button rather than car manufacturers icon, that does not work for me in my car.

I think somehow Nissan circumvents the connection and enforce its own flavour I suppose.

Today Ive tried deleting all connections from car, phonea Bluetooth and did a full storage data/cache clear do AA app.

Restarted phone, gone into AA app settings, enabled Develeoper settings, enabled unknown sources etc all of those things.

Plugged in AA wireless to car, Re connected AA and setup. Same thing, can see Nissan logo on exit app and apps still wont appear.

My car is a relatively new built in May 2023 make so I wonder there are some updates to these Head units that makes them any different

At this point should be that on your nissan there are incompatibility and AAwireless use some trick to work but can't use that settings? To understand I think you should try your phone + AAwireless in another car to see if work with actual settings and maybe try to ask to AAwireless development, oh another thing maybe try to run android auto through carplay and see if I'm that mode can use development mode correctly (try enable AA to CP) and all will be rebooted as a new "iPhone" connection, in my car this mode fix the audio video sync problem but att problem to call and so I can't use

Thanks, I'll see if I can find anyone with an AA compatible car and test it out. My other car is old and doesnt have it.

As for AA over CP I've tested that, that doesn't even work in my car. It works all fine all the way to setup. But I were never able to successfully start it in the car.

I'll try to give it another shot.

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There nothing special on main Page but give checkScreenshot_20240411_190314_AAWireless.jpg

U're italian, me too :-) Trieste

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I regret to say goodbye to FermataAuto. Too many complications. I tested devices from a well-known portal from the East and here is my report. The device (photo 1) is twice as cheap as Aawireless. I set Android Auto to start in the classic way (photo 2). The device has its own Android and is turned on with a dot on the screen (photo 3). You can install your own applications. Finally, I can show my grandchildren cartoons on YouTube
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I regret to say goodbye to FermataAuto. Too many complications. I tested devices from a well-known portal from the East and here is my report. The device (photo 1) is twice as cheap as Aawireless. I set Android Auto to start in the classic way (photo 2). The device has its own Android and is turned on with a dot on the screen (photo 3). You can install your own applications. Finally, I can show my grandchildren cartoons on YouTube !

what is the name of the device?
perhaps you lose the ability to call/receive calls from your main smartphone

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Wfi hotspot working i checked it

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@AndreyPavlenko

First of all, thank you so much for your continued wonderful work, driving in the car with FA, is truly fabulous, because you have practically endless possibilities of music with video. I would have a small criticism (absolutely constructive, the app is fabulous) the transition between one video and the next, given that the advertising is (thank god 😍) skipped. However, the process is a little slow... nothing terrible I repeat , FA is fabulous. But for example on https://liteapks.com/, you can find an excellent app for Android (Youtube Vanced) which avoids advertising. In fact, on that one the transition between one video and another is really very quick. Can something similar be done? If you can't, there's no problem, it's already perfect as it is 😃 Thanks again for your great work!

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YouTube in Fermata is not a standalone app like Vanced, it's just the web page https://m.youtube.com with some JS code injections.

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YouTube in Fermata is not a standalone app like Vanced, it's just the web page https://m.youtube.com with some JS code injections.

Ok, so that's fine anyway. Thanks again so much for your work 😃

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fcaronte commented Apr 15, 2024

There nothing special on main Page but give checkScreenshot_20240411_190314_AAWireless.jpg

Thanks, this is very useful. This confirms me that our hardware and firmware versions for the AA wireless dongle are the same.

So only difference I can see now is our car head units. Whatever AA wireless dongle does to be in "developer mode" and seeing that generix Exit button rather than car manufacturers icon, that does not work for me in my car.

I think somehow Nissan circumvents the connection and enforce its own flavour I suppose.

Today Ive tried deleting all connections from car, phonea Bluetooth and did a full storage data/cache clear do AA app.

Restarted phone, gone into AA app settings, enabled Develeoper settings, enabled unknown sources etc all of those things.

Plugged in AA wireless to car, Re connected AA and setup. Same thing, can see Nissan logo on exit app and apps still wont appear.

My car is a relatively new built in May 2023 make so I wonder there are some updates to these Head units that makes them any different

My AAwireless review is out, try to give a check if is set correctly as mine and for other guys on description there is link + 15% coupon
https://youtu.be/irvsIvOrRLg

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There nothing special on main Page but give checkScreenshot_20240411_190314_AAWireless.jpg

Thanks, this is very useful. This confirms me that our hardware and firmware versions for the AA wireless dongle are the same.
So only difference I can see now is our car head units. Whatever AA wireless dongle does to be in "developer mode" and seeing that generix Exit button rather than car manufacturers icon, that does not work for me in my car.
I think somehow Nissan circumvents the connection and enforce its own flavour I suppose.
Today Ive tried deleting all connections from car, phonea Bluetooth and did a full storage data/cache clear do AA app.
Restarted phone, gone into AA app settings, enabled Develeoper settings, enabled unknown sources etc all of those things.
Plugged in AA wireless to car, Re connected AA and setup. Same thing, can see Nissan logo on exit app and apps still wont appear.
My car is a relatively new built in May 2023 make so I wonder there are some updates to these Head units that makes them any different

My AAwireless review is out, try to give a check if is set correctly as mine and for other guys on description there is link + 15% coupon https://youtu.be/irvsIvOrRLg

Hi, can you please explain in detail how you did it? I can't find Fermata FS Mirror.

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DcR166 commented Apr 22, 2024

Screenshot_20240422-151654
Maybe now is an solution?!

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Screenshot_20240422-151654
Maybe now is an solution?!

Yes I see the post, will be a good thing, let's see what's happening

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rvitch commented Apr 22, 2024

No associated website ?
I Saw it to, but any possible way to become beta tester.

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DcR166 commented Apr 22, 2024

I don't know that's because I'm asking here the expert's, to hopefully get a answer to this post.

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rvitch commented May 5, 2024

Today i Saw a New post to this Channel..they give an gmail to send beta test app request.
We dont know the apps that concern..Android auto World apps what is that !?
Scam ?

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fcaronte commented May 6, 2024

Let's see how evolve, Currently there is nothing concrete

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I see some updates coming for AA, maybe this will help to get these apps working again? Maybe can spoof system into thinking we are parked or something?
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2024/05/android-for-cars-bringing-more-apps-to-cars.html?m=1#:~:text=We're%20also%20pleased%20to,to%20the%20car%20while%20parked.

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#AndreyPavlenko

I noticed about 2 days ago that the controls on the steering wheel to change YouTube songs in Fermata Auto no longer works...yet I have had the latest version of Fermata Auto, 1.9.9, for some time, and Fermata Control version 1.9.8. Setup that has been working perfectly for some time, with the AAWireless device, Sony Xperia 1v 512 Gb phone updated to Android 14, Toyota Gr Yaris 2021 car. Could I get them working again? They were really comfortable. Thank you so much

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#AndreyPavlenko

I noticed about 2 days ago that the controls on the steering wheel to change YouTube songs in Fermata Auto no longer works...yet I have had the latest version of Fermata Auto, 1.9.9, for some time, and Fermata Control version 1.9.8. Setup that has been working perfectly for some time, with the AAWireless device, Sony Xperia 1v 512 Gb phone updated to Android 14, Toyota Gr Yaris 2021 car. Could I get them working again? They were really comfortable. Thank you so much

Are not working when fermata media is not running, open fermata media(green icon) then go back to Fermata auto and Will work again

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#AndreyPavlenko
I noticed about 2 days ago that the controls on the steering wheel to change YouTube songs in Fermata Auto no longer works...yet I have had the latest version of Fermata Auto, 1.9.9, for some time, and Fermata Control version 1.9.8. Setup that has been working perfectly for some time, with the AAWireless device, Sony Xperia 1v 512 Gb phone updated to Android 14, Toyota Gr Yaris 2021 car. Could I get them working again? They were really comfortable. Thank you so much

Are not working when fermata media is not running, open fermata media(green icon) then go back to Fermata auto and Will work again

Thank you so much for the advice, I'll try it in the car, hopefully it works 😃

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#AndreyPavlenko
I noticed about 2 days ago that the controls on the steering wheel to change YouTube songs in Fermata Auto no longer works...yet I have had the latest version of Fermata Auto, 1.9.9, for some time, and Fermata Control version 1.9.8. Setup that has been working perfectly for some time, with the AAWireless device, Sony Xperia 1v 512 Gb phone updated to Android 14, Toyota Gr Yaris 2021 car. Could I get them working again? They were really comfortable. Thank you so much

Are not working when fermata media is not running, open fermata media(green icon) then go back to Fermata auto and Will work again

It works! Thank you so much again ❤

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I wad not driving my car for a month as it was in a shop, but when I got back to it I can get Fermata working again. Head unit was not updated and seems like the only thing that was updated since beginning of June wad Android Auto App...
However my phone was not connecting at first, so I did a factory reset for AAWireless device as I had to do sometimes when it got stuck on white light.
But after reset I do not see fermata among apps anymore even with developer mode enabled.
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