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Cargo can no longer sell BZ via cargo. #3514

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francinum
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NT no longer buys BZ from the station.

About The Pull Request

it's infinite and so easy to mine, why would NT pay you for it when they can just mine it themselves.

Why It's Good For The Game

Solves the infinite farming problem without balance implications.

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balance: NT no longer buys a gas they can just mine themselves.
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NT no longer buys BZ from the station.
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ghost commented Jan 29, 2021

I'm curious, did you bother paying any attention to the existing PRs about this?

#3473
#3504

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I'm curious, did you bother paying any attention to the existing PRs about this?

#3473
#3504

Yes.

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big bruh just disable bz for lavaland atmos

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Okay but why?
Not every part of the game needs to be balanced out and still this gives cargo some fun projects to make.

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I agree with Archanial, BZ may not be perfectly balanced but outright removing features that some people find enjoyable is imo, bad for the game's health.

There a better alternatives than outright removing, that should be the last solution to problems when all else fails. We have a few rebalance PRs open, some of which have pending changes (I really like #3504, could be imported further though)

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it's infinite and so easy to mine, why would NT pay you for it when they can just mine it themselves

you can apply that comment to the entirety of cargo to be honest, I doubt centcomm needs metal crates that bad

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TeomanTheGreat commented Jan 29, 2021

"why would NT pay you for it when
they can just mine it themselves."
SS13 is a mining and research station. Its job is to bring profit to NT and BZ is a valuable gas. Also your argument can be used for any ore / natural resource on lavaland.

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ike709 commented Jan 29, 2021

What if ash storms broke the vents/scrubbers? Then they'd have to actually continually maintain their gas mining rig.

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bloons3 commented Jan 29, 2021

I would support something that reduces the insane amount of money generated from selling massive amounts of BZ (via global price elasticity) instead of entirely removing BZ from being sold.

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This PR is significantly more favourable and provides a better long term fix for cargo gas exploiting rather than entirely preventing BZ sales which will be replaced by miasma farms anyway.
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Gas elasticity has gone stale, @PowerfulBacon

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@francinum francinum deleted the whywouldwebuythisfromyouwecanjustmineitourselves branch March 27, 2021 12:53
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Gas elasticity wouldn't fix the problem as mining bz is laggy as hell.

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#4358 actually provides a related reason, re-open the other one

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@ike709 ike709 deleted the whywouldwebuythisfromyouwecanjustmineitourselves branch May 31, 2021 21:16
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