Multi-route timetables

[antrim]

Need: Many agencies publish timetables for a travel corridor that shows multiple routes.

Example multiple route timetables

• Sonoma Co. Transit Rts 44 and 48: http://sctransit.com/maps-schedules/route-44-route-48/
• Mendocino Transit Rts 7 and 20: http://mendocinotransit.org/routes/routes-7-and-9/route-7-northbound-aug-2013/ (this only shows the Ukiah local part of the intercity Rt 20)

Proposal: Enable multiple routes in a timetable, using records in timetables.txt similar to below:

timetable_id,route_id,direction_id,start_date,end_date,monday,tuesday,wednesday,thursday,friday,saturday,sunday,route_label,service_notes,direction_label
81,1033,0,20150101,20160116,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,"44",Ending January 16,North
81,1035,0,20150101,20160116,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,"48",Ending January 16,North

Notice the new use of route_label. It may be necessary to look at how timetables are labeled as a whole if they incorporate multiple routes.

[brendannee]

Multi-route support is live - it was a little tricky to include.

I'm sure there a lot of ways that it will need to be improved and extended to support various configurations, so let me know when you find issues and example agencies/routes.

[livemixlove]

@brendannee is this still possible?

[brendannee]

@livemixlove I'm not sure - Its not a feature I have used in a while. It looks like Sonoma's Route 44 is using it: http://sctransit.com/maps-schedules/route-44-route-48/ - but perhaps those timetables were hand coded.

You could check how Sonoma's schedules are being generated for that route - let me know if you want me to look into this feature more and if you have a GTFS file that has a pair of routes which line up that you'd like me to test this on.

[tsherlockcraig]

Holly did we autogenerate the multi-route timetables for Sonoma County Transit? Did GTFS-to-HTML create those or did you hand code them? @brendan could you add hkvlhm thomastrillium livemixlove anniekfifer ed-g and katsiarynamashokha as collaborators to the repo so we could easily communicate there in the future? Thomas Craig General Manager Trillium Solutions, Inc. www.trilliumtransit.com Portland, Oregon (503) 567-8422 ext. 4

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On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Brendan Nee ***@***.***> wrote: @livemixlove <https://github.com/livemixlove> I'm not sure - Its not a feature I have used in a while. It looks like Sonoma's Route 44 is using it: http://sctransit.com/maps-schedules/route-44-route-48/ - but perhaps those timetables were hand coded. You could check how Sonoma's schedules are being generated for that route - let me know if you want me to look into this feature more and if you have a GTFS file that has a pair of routes which line up that you'd like me to test this on. — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#9 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AHPstJnrPVXRnShHca6GEk1wtxv65xQvks5uBV8YgaJpZM4G64Xk> .

[tsherlockcraig]

I tried to auto-generate the multi-route timetables, and I think it worked somewhat, but my memory of it isn't great. I think with a hand-edited timetable_stop_order.txt it mostly worked but I might've had to manually reorder trips/columns On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Thomas Craig <thomas@trilliumtransit.com> wrote:

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Holly did we autogenerate the multi-route timetables for Sonoma County Transit? Did GTFS-to-HTML create those or did you hand code them? @brendan could you add hkvlhm thomastrillium livemixlove anniekfifer ed-g and katsiarynamashokha as collaborators to the repo so we could easily communicate there in the future? Thomas Craig General Manager Trillium Solutions, Inc. www.trilliumtransit.com Portland, Oregon (503) 567-8422 ext. 4 On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Brendan Nee ***@***.***> wrote: > @livemixlove <https://github.com/livemixlove> I'm not sure - Its not a > feature I have used in a while. It looks like Sonoma's Route 44 is using > it: http://sctransit.com/maps-schedules/route-44-route-48/ - but perhaps > those timetables were hand coded. > > You could check how Sonoma's schedules are being generated for that route > - let me know if you want me to look into this feature more and if you have > a GTFS file that has a pair of routes which line up that you'd like me to > test this on. > > — > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#9 (comment)>, > or mute the thread > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AHPstJnrPVXRnShHca6GEk1wtxv65xQvks5uBV8YgaJpZM4G64Xk> > . >

-- Holly Kvalheim Special Projects Coordinator Trillium Solutions, Inc. www.trilliumtransit.com Portland, Oregon (503) 567-8422 ext. 7

[tsherlockcraig]

Cool so yes @livemixlove let's work with the feature and maybe there are bugs that we need to fix.

[brendannee]

@thomastrillium hkvlhm thomastrillium livemixlove anniekfifer ed-g
and katsiarynamashokha are added as collaborators to this repo. (its public though, so I think anyone can comment here)

I can probably get multiroute timetables working pretty quickly if you want me to - I'd just need an example of what it should look like and a valid feed. I could use Sonoma Route 48/48X/54 if you want - does the current latest GTFS line up with the existing schedule here: http://sctransit.com/maps-schedules/route-44-route-48/ ? Or, if you are working on a new agency, let me know what feed and routes you are trying to make a multiroute timetable for.

[NomeQ]

@brendannee I have a concrete example of a multi-route timetable we'd like to be able to generate. I'm attaching a feed with just the 2 combined timetables we'd like to make in timetables.txt, a correct timetable_stop_order.txt, and the client PDF that's pretty much what we'd like the output to be like.
victorville-ca-us-commuter.zip
VVTA_NTC-COMMUTER_SCHEDULE_20140127.pdf

[brendannee]

I finally got around to adding this feature in version 0.20.0 a509c94.

I used your exact GTFS referenced above to test it out and the combined timetables worked.

It required quite a few updates across the codebase, and if you have any custom templates you use, you'll need to update them anywhere they call timetable.route_id or timetable.route. These have been changed to timetable.route_ids and timetable.routes both of which are arrays. You can see an example of the type of template change required here: a509c94#diff-1b8e973d2e0f44aced017c67053f613c

If this is still relevant to you - try it out and let me know how it works for you.