ACCC & DSB | CDR Implementation Call Agenda & Meeting Notes | 23rd of November 2023
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⭐ indicates change from last week.
| Type | Topic | Update |
|---|---|---|
| Standards | Version 1.28.0 | Published: 10th November 2023 Change log |
| Standards | Version 1.29.0 will contain Maintenance Iteration 17 Changes and others | Team is working through the changes. No ETA yet. |
| Maintenance | Maintenance Iteration 17 Working Groups Completed | All agendas and meeting minutes |
| Maintenance ⭐ | Maintenance Iteration 18 planned to commence February 2024 | Invitations to come |
| DSB Newsletter | To subscribe to DSB Newsletter | Link here |
| DSB Newsletter ⭐ | 17th of November 2023 | View in browser here |
| Consultation | Decision Proposal 229 - CDR Participant Representation | Placeholder: no close date Link to consultation |
| Consultation | Noting Paper 280: The CX of Authentication Uplift | No Close Date Link to consultation |
| Consultation | Noting Paper 307 - LCCD Consultation Approach | No Close Date Link to consultation Video |
| Consultation | Noting Paper 308 - Categories of Standards | No Close Date Link to consultation |
| Consultation | Decision Proposal 318 - Non-Bank Lending Standards |
Feedback Closes: 8th of December 2023 Link to consultation |
| Consultation | Noting Paper 323 - NFR Workshops | Link to consultation |
| Consultation | Decision Proposal 335 - NFR Working Group | Link to consultation |
| Consultation | Decision Proposal 338 - Updates to Banking Products and Accounts - Binding Standards | Feedback Closes: 15th of December 2023 Link to consultation |
| Engineering | Survey on the DSB Engineering Tooling and platforms |
Closes: 8th of December 2023 5-10min survey Click here to have your say |
| 2023 Close | Remaining CDR Implementation Calls for 2023: -30th November -7th December -14th December |
Thank you for an awesome year! |
| 2024 Commence | 2024 Series Kicks off 18th of January 2024 | Invitations to come |
Provides a weekly update on the activities of each CDR stream and their work.
| Organisation | Stream | Member |
|---|---|---|
| ACCC | Register and Accreditation Application Platform | Eva |
| DSB | Consumer Experience | Amy |
| DSB | Non-Bank Lending | Nils |
None this week.
Questions will be received by the community via Microsoft Teams chat before the questions are opened to the floor. Participants can submit questions outside of the CDR Implementation Call to the CDR Support Portal.
In regards to topics for questions, we ask the participants on the call to consider the Community Guidelines when posing questions to the subject matter experts.
| Ticket # | Question | Answer |
|---|---|---|
| 2174 | We would like to get clarifications for the following doubts we have when implementing the get metrics v5 endpoint: Question 1 There are multiple stages in the abandonmentsByStage metrics for an example; stage 1, stage 2, stage 3, stage 4 If the user follows the following sequence before abandoning the consent, which stage should these specific flows be categorized in the abandonmentsByStage metric? Scenario 1 stage 1 -> stage 2 -> abandoned(according to our understanding this should be considered as an abandonment for stage 2) Scenario 2 stage 1 -> stage 2 -> stage 3 -> stage 2(goes back to stage 2 from stage 3 before abandoning the consent flow) -> abandoned Question 2 If the user has entered the same stage multiple times by going back and forth, should the latest timestamp be considered for that particular stage or the 1st timestamp when the user visited that stage for abandonment? |
There are many permutations in this scenario and often they depend on how the Data Holder has implemented the authorisation flow. As a result there is a lot of discretion given to Data Holders in how to answer these questions. In general, the guidance we have been giving is that the furthest stage reached should be the one reported even if a user backtracks. |
| 2188 | Can you please confirm that we can supplies zeros for previous periods as required immediately after implementing new versions of get metrics in cases where the metric is an addition (as we accrue data)? | or periods for which you have no data you can supply zeroes or leave out those elements of the previousDays and previousMonths fields. Note that for some of the metrics a zero can appear like a valid number (such as abandonmentsByStage in v5) so if you are using that approach you may wish to advise the ACCC when the real data will flow so that they don't misunderstand your data. |
Attendees are invited to raise topics related to the Consumer Data Right that would benefit from the DSB and ACCCs' consideration.
View a number of informative and useful links in the Consumer Data Standards Guide on Information Links.
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