Monthly Ticket for Quest Changes

[chochem]

Your GTNH Discord Username

chochom#0271

Your Pack Version

2.3.1-2.3.2

Overview

A ticket for any large or small problems with any quests. Just post below. Of course, you can also make a dedicated ticket. In particular for more indepth suggestion or problems.

The most up-to-date quest files can always be found here: https://github.com/GTNewHorizons/GT-New-Horizons-Modpack/tree/master/config/betterquesting/DefaultQuests
Depending on your version, you might also need to update BQ to use them.

Below are the remaining things from last month (#12495):

Outstanding Quest Changes

• Rework Turbine Materials and Useless Space Ores GT5-Unofficial#1146 reworked turbine materials, so quests related to turbine materials need to be checked to confirm if any changes are needed.
• Quest.3165 UV Power Per Turbine

  Large Ichorium 170% 342,720 EU/t (very durable)
  Ichorium turbine has been buffed. So this data is outdated.

• Quest.3166 Powering-up Fluid Nukes

  Oriharukon and MAR-Ce-M200 are your best choices.
  MAR-Ce-M200 is LuV (need ZPM tier EBF) now. See https://github.com/GTNewHorizons/GoodGenerator/blob/33681ff5f240800c70b70c1e314d73ae262caf7c/src/main/java/goodgenerator/loader/RecipeLoader_02.java#L1145

• Quest.2568 Infinity Helmet and Quest.2569 Infinity Breastplate
  Infinity Helmet can't remove all negative debuffs, it's the ability of Infinity Breastplate.
• Quest.1510 Biomes Everywhere, But Not the One You Want? Overhaul based on Monthly Report for quests that need to be edited #11385 (comment)
• there are 2 vanadiumsteel quests (LV and MV). remove one. the remaining one should be in LV.
• LV cobalt from cobaltite quest: make it about both cobalt and arsenic, put it before the GaAr cystal (though optional). also make first task optional.
• quest 'power up fluid nukes' has a broken task
• "Walk Through Fire" quest completes with normal Pig Adventure Backpack
• remove OSS quest. its super buggy and not needed for anything.
• remove quests 'bzzz... Whoom (Defunct do not complete)' for LV PLE. (not a real quest, just some remnant in the code)

Outstanding New Quests

• Add a quest for Quadruple Input Hatch, or mention it in some multiblock quests (for example, EBF).
• Add a quest for Integrated Ore Factory in Multiblock Goals tab (maybe add a link in UHV tab as well). It is the ultimate solution for ore processing in late game.
• Add a quest for Tesla Tower in Multiblock Goals tab. It is a powerful power transmission option in HV~ZPM that should be mentioned in questbook.
• Add a quest/quests for YOTtank in Multiblock Goals tab. It is the ultimate fluid storage solution in middle & late game.
• Add a quest for Infinite Oil/Gas/Fluid Drilling Rig. There is already a quest for void miner, so add one for Infinite Rig is reasonable.
• Add a quest for GT++ Solar Tower in How to Generate Power tab, it is now a power generation option in IV, since Bugfix and Rework of the GT++ Solar Tower GTplusplus#290 fixed and reworked it.
• Add XL Gas Turbine and XL Plasma Turbine quests in How to Generate Power tab, they are good upgrade for the large ones. XL Steam/HP Steam Turbine have a quest in Working with Oil tab already, might need a link in How to Generate Power tab too?
• Add a quest for Turbine Housing in How to Generate Power tab, it makes automating large turbine possible.
• Add a quest for Elemental Duplicator in GT++ tab.
• Add quests for the Algae Farm. -- Regarding this point, the Algae Farm doesn't just need a quest, it needs an entire questline where it's properly balanced. It can replace several early automations for specific chemicals if used, so it is my (steelux) plan to make that questline when I finish the remaining adjustments.
• add quests for super glue
• add quest for the component assembly
• add quest for advanced assembling line
• add quest for interface p2p. Great for parallel ALs. Items only - but can do fluid packets and local unpacking.
• Add for quest for thauminite caps in adept tab. (better than thaumium!)
• add quests for th232 line in IV and/or ZPM alternative
• add eye of harmony quest + related stuff
• expand optical mainframe quest to a full questline for optical circuits.
• add quests for BM meteors

Outstanding Overhauls/Ongoing Discussions

• the Lutetium quests need an overhaul. Specifically, 'Faster Lutetium Excitement', 'High Temperature Super Breeder'. The neutron activator option was removed in favor of the HTGR.
• rewrite the TFFT quest(s) because of TFFT rework KekzTech#45
• add a stone age quest about visual prospecting (best also mention the spawn chunks bug)?
• add quests for bastline?
• remove old quests for oil (LV), bio (MV) that are covered by the new tab.
• make new enderiotab from mv and hv?
• reorganize uhv tab + endgame tab. (inf stuff to uhv?)
• rebalance lootbags? nerf AE2 lootbags?
• the two quest after silverwood core need a core or core options
• the last wand quest should just point to kami-ha-me-ha tab, the wand quest is there.
• add a new questtab for mobility: teleportation options (!), boats, elevator, jetpacks, saddle, ...

[Runakai1]

• Change indium bee quest description to something nice. (the nerf did already happen)

[chochem]

• in Storing and Transforming, move up the energy and nano crystal to the HV line. (might make it possible to move things closer together with LESU moved out of the way)
• Quest 'smd circuit components': change icon to something that is made here!
• make smd inductor quest main. (mandatory for nanos)
• integrated processor quest in HV: add resistors, capacitors, transistors with oredict! (and remove the line from the text)
• move diode quests to 'storing and transforming'? like the one in the multiblock tab.
• add explanation to carbon parts quest that you will need EV circuits and nanocrystals
• cleanroom: mention that this multi behaves different than any other gt multi with energy hatches (except PA). A single hatch can provide 2A instead of just 1A! tooltip is correct on that. Maybe also change the MV energy hatch to LV.
• EV: unhide prereq for pulverizing the planet
• EV: improve quest for 'more advanced circuit board'. just focus on lapo not pa, there is also no 'rest of the questline', just say what its good for.
• multiblock tab: add 64 TSS quest as prereq to PA quest
• HV energy hatch quest: somebody changed how the coolant works. Maybe an extra quest for a MV+ fluid heater.
• reinforced X quest should have a pattern instead of cast
• wheaty juice should require either LV or MV brewery. not just strictly LV
• remove stainless steel screws from rocket nose cone quest (we got assembler recipes now!)
• Lander tier 1 quest should only need 1 buggy seat and 1 freq module
• add some way to bypass or autocomplete rp1 if the player has CBD
• grandmaster unique lootbag conversion. there are 6 rewards and with 2 from the conversion you would be able to get 6, so maybe adjust the text.
• quest hot slurry (bauxite chain) should require the oil cracker
• fix europium quests in monaline
• move shield and spear quest from end of stone age to armor/weapon tab to declutter that mass unlock after gt tools a bit
• 'just enough ts for your rocket': needs a bit more now. double check, but looks like 8 tungsten dust instead of 3. then 16 ts dust, then 6 ts ingot and 18 hss-g dust.
• add quest for 2 ev field gens after that
• convocation of the damned. only needs 13 runes of the orb since the big BM buff
• lapotron dust quest should have taks for lapo dust. with lapis/energium optional. also should point to energy storage tab.
• first step of EV tungsten chain needs sodium not sodiumhydroxide
• move hss-g quest from IV to EV, put it before the field gens, and reduce it to 16
• using all the fractions: remove first person narration

[Rika-TH]

• Add GT EU meter into a tips quest in late LV/early MV perhaps or adjust its recipe and put it elsewhere, as it seems to be the earliest convenient way of getting the info it gives without cheats

[chochem]

what does it do, what would the quest say? details please

[Rika-TH]

it displays the internal power buffer in a machine similar to the tricorder but accessible much sooner with hardest resource being a single cupronickel coil

a quest for it could recommend it for debugging and to help better know how their machines are behaving in LV where it can be more important how you manage your power

it also displays the capabilities of a face (whether it can accept inputs) and acceptable I/O voltage and amperage

[chochem]

• remove disassembler quest. potentially further mentions
• LV solar no longer needs sunnarium, move that prereq to MV solar
• reduce capacitor bank quests to just one, they are not upgradeable or used much
• eldritch questline: move nine hells focus to focus tab and make the reservoir optional
• remark in steam grinder text that it opened gt++ but most things there will be later.
• 'basic ae2 system'. make 1k cells optional. its fine to go for 4k.
• 'Purifying the Impure'. reduce final results to less than 32, maybe 24. the recipes are not 100%.
• make it possible to skip 1k component quest and directly do 4k component
• 'AE tier 1 item storage': wrong place to tell people not to use ae storage. remove that, its covered in a better spot.
• 'P2P': remove ec2 mention.
• mini questline on top of AE2 tab: better move to the correct spots in the tab and call them 'Short Guide - ...' (also edit text of them accordingly where needed)

[ShyZShark]

I assume I'd place this here?
The Quest "Power of the Sun at LV Level" requires a trigger for obtaining Sunnarium, despite not needing that material until MV solar panels.

[chochem]

thats already fixed, see the post above yours :P

[ShyZShark]

My bad, I used Ctrl + F, but I didn't search for enough terms. Now I feel stupid. Good catch though!

[chochem]

• rewrite seperating molecules quest. the changes were ages ago and people are not using the urn in HV
• reduce coolant amount in MV coolant quest. you can cool it so you dont need this much

[xtake]

• Tier 9 quest page: UEV circuit quest text says last normal circuit. And UHV field gen says there is only one after that. Both just need a text update. (I didn't check all quests there just saw those 2)
• Might not apply to many. In the Mega Apiary quest, can you mention the bee stats matter. Ofc this is usually obvious but for some reason I got a bit confused because you only put the bee in the interface. I didn't know if it only reads the queen species data and then calculates the loot or also includes the other stats. (I'm guessing only speed makes any difference anyway because others don't apply here)

[miaowwwwww]

• Pcb factory quest is in zpm, but it needs the wetware thing to scan, maybe change it to uv or move the biovet stuff to zpm? Or just add a line saying that u need this to scan.

[Dream-Master]

• Some GT++ multies where changed to EV and not need to be dependant on the ABS anymore.

[chochem]

As shown, the eu-vis charging station does not need the prerequisite, plz fix

I dont know what you mean. can you explain?

[miaowwwwww]

As shown, the eu-vis charging station does not need the prerequisite, plz fix

I dont know what you mean. can you explain?

• the charging station don't need the generator to craft

[chochem]

• add quest for relocator to new mobility tab
• add quest for charm of dislocation to new mobility tab
• add quest for enhanced charm of dislocation to new mobility tab
• add quest for waystones to new mobility tab
• add quest for celestial gateway to new mobility tab
• add quest for planar gateway to new mobility tab
• add quest for ruby slippers to new mobility tab
• add quest for infusion of otherwhere to new mobility tab
• add quest for ic2 teleporter to new mobility tab
• add quest for gt teleporter to new mobility tab?
• add quest for eio telepad to new mobility tab
• move spectre key to mobility tab?
• add quest for arcane levitator to new mobility tab?
• add quest for angel wings to new mobility tab?
• add quest about SE teleporation to new mobility tab

[EnderProyects]

• Add the quest the Botania Flügel tiara to new mobility tab
• and to the rails the Botania Spectral rail

[King65868]

• The "Super Fuel and Boiling" quest asks for reinforced HP steam turbine casings instead of the titanium turbine casings.

[xtake]

• EV and IV solar quest still have raw silicon as optional task instead of silicon solar grade

[miaowwwwww]

t8 rocket quest needs uhv energy hatch quest. but uhv quest currently needs mk3 fusion to unlock, but making uhv energy hatch(for) does not necessarily need mk3 fusion,
i suggest ：

• remove tier 9 uhv prereq "mk3 fusion".

remove "pt 1 uhv" prereq for uhv energy hatch.(because t8 rocket quest in gated behind uhv energy hatch, u dont need to make the other 3 for t8, only pump)（tbh all energy hatch quest should only have pump as prereq）

[TealSeer]

LV quest "Antimony" (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACVg==) references processing stibnite in the BBF/EBF which as far as I can tell isn't a thing anymore

[chochem]

it is a thing though

[TealSeer]

it is a thing though

fuck i was looking at the recipes for the ore block not the dust, mb

[TealSeer]

• Without dying quest "Quantum Chestplate" (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMRw==) mentions the hover mode is inferior to the advanced nanochestplate, a fix just got merged to hodgepodge to bring it in line with the latter so that info is no longer accurate

[chochem]

* [ ]  LV quest "Node Upgrades" (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGPw==) which explains the Transfer Node autocrafting could use the vanilla crafting table as a prerequisite. Otherwise why require the Baby Chests if you don't want the player to try out the autocrafting setup.

I dont get it. are you worried people in LV dont have a crafting table? :/

[wlhlm]

I dont get it. are you worried people in LV dont have a crafting table?

I certainly didn't have any at that stage. All Tinker's crafting tables. And I don't think this mechanic works with anything other than the vanilla crafting table. The intention with this is that the quest lists exactly the blocks/items that are needed for this mechanic to work to reduce confusion. I think it's inevitable a player might try this with a non-vanilla crafting table.

[chochem]

adding prereqs that cant do anything and arent even close is just silly

[wlhlm]

Huh, the Crafting Table is necessary in order to do autocrafting with the World Interaction Upgrade. Not sure why it "can't do anything"?

[King65868]

Instead of pre req I think what is wanted, is the vanilla crafting table added to a task in that quest

[chochem]

• The quest "Basic Cracking" (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALsQ==) in the Oil tab wants the player to steam-crack Refinery Gas, but it doesn't actually require the player to hold cracked Refinery Gas, just the ingredients (chem. reactor, steam, ref. gas). Maybe that should include the cracking result (at least one) as a task for the player to get the rewards for the quest.
  Since the ratio for steam cracking is 0.8, that would require updating the steam and Refinery Gas amounts to 15B to make 4 cells of each cracked variant.

I think it makes more sense as it is currently. there are 3 options after all.

[wlhlm]

Instead of pre req I think what is wanted, is the vanilla crafting table added to a task in that quest

Ohh, yes. That is exactly what I meant. Sorry for the confusion, I was using the wrong terminology here.

[chochem]

ah that makes more sense

[wlhlm]

I think it makes more sense as it is currently. there are 3 options after all.

It just felt a bit weird to me, because that means you complete the quest (and collect the rewards) without actually making the thing the quest is all about. I don't remember any other quest doing that (at least up until this point). Alternatively, if you think having the player cracking 15B of Refinery Gas for 4B of each variant is too much, the book could choose one variant. For example, Severely Steam-cracked Refinery Gas can be later turned into Polyethylene.

[glowredman]

• At the end of "Just Tell Me What to Scan Already!" It says Vacous, when it should be Vacuos

[tommmmmmmmm]

"ZPM Assembler" quest: It says it is required for naqalloy coils; it should say for trinium coils

[Hiagg]

you do not need hypogen to make this at all.

also umv circuits are required for uiv components quest only because field gens exist which is annoying. i think field gens should be a separate quest as they were in every other tier

[PolkageistHS]

The early quests that need a smeltery cast (Obtaining Ender Pearls, Gardener, Making Better Tools (and its derivatives), among others) can probably be updated to require either a cast or a single use clay cast, since those are a thing now. Or maybe make the cast step optional like other quests have done with the ingredients?

[wagon153]

Was looking into creating a High Temperature Thorium Reactor, since it looked neat and more interesting than spamming xl turbines, but there's no quest for it in the Quest Book, even though the "High Temperature Super Breeder" quest references the existence of a companion quest for it. Did one exist at one time only to get removed?

[chochem]

no removal, no.

[wagon153]

Then I guess it never got made. Which is a shame, because I can't find any documentation on it, and I was unable to get it working in a creative world(although that may be a separate ticket after I do some additional testing)

[chochem]

ah I found what you are talking about. you just misread lol and mixed up 2 multis.

[chochem]

closed in favour of #13593