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Perian + OS X Mavericks #3

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Jeezy4 opened this issue Oct 12, 2013 · 38 comments
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Perian + OS X Mavericks #3

Jeezy4 opened this issue Oct 12, 2013 · 38 comments

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@Jeezy4
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Jeezy4 commented Oct 12, 2013

Does that the support will be updated to OS X Mavericks?
Thanks.

@MaddTheSane
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Assuming that Mavericks still loads QuickTime codec plug-ins, yes. If there's a replacement, it might take awhile. If there isn't a replacement, then no, sorry.

@mcandre
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mcandre commented Oct 23, 2013

+1

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@laranea
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laranea commented Oct 25, 2013

+1

@andrebalza
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+1

@paraita
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paraita commented Nov 4, 2013

+1

@anjunatl
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anjunatl commented Nov 6, 2013

+1, really missing the Finder thumbnails for non-Apple codecs

@craigkeller
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looks like Mavericks uses AVKit instead of QTKit :( No non-apple codec Quicklook anymore.

@MaddTheSane
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It is possible to make a QuickLook plug-in that handles non-QuickTime and non-AVFoundation movies. It will need to be written, but I believe it is possible.

@craigkeller
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I will dedicate my life in the honor of whomever writes said plugin.

@applenoyon
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+1 thanks ;)

@danieldietrich
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+1

@jesstech
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It is possible to make a QuickLook plug-in that handles non-QuickTime and non-AVFoundation movies. It will need to be written, but I believe it is possible.

Are you planning to author such a plugin, or can you outline how one might work?

@MaddTheSane
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Further research on an audio-only QuickLook plug-in has lead me to believe that there are APIs for doing audio, they're just private. Someone did make a video-only QuickLook Plug-in, so that, at least, is possible with public APIs.

@NeoNapster
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Does Mavericks not support DTS passthrough?

@MaddTheSane
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To my knowledge, OS X never had DTS pass through, except maybe the DVD Player and VLC.

@NeoNapster
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No, I mean since Mavericks came out the ACS passthrough (Sorry not DTS my bad) is no longer working, on my AV receiver the DTS logo does not show and the sound, sounds muffled........ I've installed the latest version of Perian.. 1.3.1

@MaddTheSane
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Perian 1.3.2 has been released. It does introduce a fix for the ac3 pass-through, hopefully.

@andrebalza
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Appreciate your effort. is there any ready to download executable?

@dreshfield
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@andrebalza: You can download the zipped prefPane here.

@riddl
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riddl commented Jan 10, 2014

+1

@XenitXTD
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XenitXTD commented Mar 3, 2014

Hey Guys, I installed Version 1.3.2 on mavericks 10.9.2 and all but i don't see it work, I immediately tested the preview(Spacebar) feature like in the past and its not working on the two files i tested (Namely MKV and MPEG) didn't try testing further... i completely deleted old installs and then rebooted after the install with no luck?

Is there anything i should know about it now working right now or did i miss something?

Lastly, I am so glad that you guys decided to continue development on this as this was an absolutely useful tool for the mac that just made life easier

@thecomputermedic
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Quick Look no longer uses Quicktime QTKit framework, now they are using
AVKit framework, which does not allow plug-ins.

Brett Goldberg
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On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:17 AM, XenitXTD notifications@github.com wrote:

Hey Guys, I installed Version 1.3.2 on mavericks 10.9.2 and all but i
don't see it work, I immediately tested the preview(Spacebar) feature like
in the past and its not working on the two files i tested (Namely MKV and
MPEG) didn't try testing further... i completely deleted old installs and
then rebooted after the install with no luck?

Is there anything i should know about it now working right now or did i
miss something?


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com//issues/3#issuecomment-36501015
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@thecomputermedic
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Keep an eye on MaddTheSane as he has taken up the mantle of the now defunct
Perian.

https://github.com/MaddTheSane/perian

Brett Goldberg
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On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Brett Goldberg medic@thecomputerer.comwrote:

Quick Look no longer uses Quicktime QTKit framework, now they are using
AVKit framework, which does not allow plug-ins.

Brett Goldberg
505-577-2557
Medic@TheComputerER.com

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:17 AM, XenitXTD notifications@github.com wrote:

Hey Guys, I installed Version 1.3.2 on mavericks 10.9.2 and all but i
don't see it work, I immediately tested the preview(Spacebar) feature like
in the past and its not working on the two files i tested (Namely MKV and
MPEG) didn't try testing further... i completely deleted old installs and
then rebooted after the install with no luck?

Is there anything i should know about it now working right now or did i
miss something?


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com//issues/3#issuecomment-36501015
.

@MaddTheSane
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There is a Flash video QuickLook plug-in out there, so there is a way to play back movies via QuickLook.

Although that plug-in doesn't support audio.

@jelias
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jelias commented Mar 5, 2014

That would be a problem, but it's definitely the right step forward!

@Thomasmac
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Downloaded and installed Perian 1.3.2 but don't see/notice any difference to version 1.2.3. The only thing that is different: Perian 1.3.2 extended my context menu "open with" - "Perian - Open in QT Player". It does open QT-Player but not QT-Player 7. It opens the QT Player of Mavericks instead which does not make sense really as this player immediately starts encoding instead of playing the flv or avi-file :-).

Question: "There is a Flash Video QuickLook plug-in out there" (without audio). Where is "out there"? I did not find anything browsing the net.

@MaddTheSane
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There was a QuickLook plug-in that played back FLV on the internet. Sadly, it uses QTKit to get a video file, a no-no under Mavericks.

@mcandre
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mcandre commented Apr 9, 2014

Gotta love it when things are deprecated in favor of... no particular replacement. Like OpenID.

@ghost
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ghost commented Apr 12, 2014

@MaddTheSane Do you have any news on Perian being able to play WebM/VP8 files within Safari, on Mavericks?
I have found that you can watch webm videos if you open them directly in a new tab, for example, but they will not play inline in Safari. To the best of my knowledge, QuickTime handles Safari video.

@MaddTheSane
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QuickTime handles sites that want a plug-in to view video/audio. However, many sites are now moving to HTML5 video tag, which I would not be surprised if it went straight to AVFoundation.

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ghost commented Apr 12, 2014

Ok, i'm not 100% certain on that, but i was under the impression that HTML5 audio and video is handled by QuickTime in Safari, but like i say, i'm not sure.

@asoksevil
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I just experienced this. It is quite weird that you can actually playback Webm files in a separate tab while embedded or inline videos can´t be displayed. I used to be able to do that on Snow Leopard.

@ghost
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ghost commented Dec 7, 2015

When a file is loaded in a separate tab, it is handled by the (old) QuickTime Plugin, which can load Perian with no problem.
However, inline videos don't use QuickTime anymore, they use AVFoundation which doesn't support any kind of extensions.

In older versions of OSX (before Mavericks I think), inline html5 video was handled by QuickTime, which is why Perian used to work in browser.

On 7 Dec 2015, at 08:13, asoksevil notifications@github.com wrote:

I just experienced this. It is quite weird that you can actually playback Webm files in a separate tab while embedded or inline videos can´t be displayed. I used to be able to do that on Snow Leopard.


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@asoksevil
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I see, and I guess this hasn´t changed since Mavericks so even El Cap and Yosemite have the same issue,

@ghost
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ghost commented Dec 8, 2015

That is correct. We can hope that one day, Apple will allow extensions/plugins to AVFoundation (unlikely) or that Apple might even just implement WebM video decoding into AVFoundation (also unlikely).

My only real advice is, if you visit a webpage with only a WebM video and no alternative, you should use a different browser for that page.

If you have the Develop menu enabled in Safari (Preferences > Advanced > Enable Develop Menu), then when you find a WebM video, you can click “Develop > Open Page With > Google Chrome” or whichever other browser you prefer. Chrome and Firefox both support WebM video.

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I see, and I guess this hasn´t changed since Mavericks so even El Cap and Yosemite have the same issue,


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@MarcusJohnson91
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Or you can set the user agent to iOS (iPad), and it'll force the site to load an mp4 version in Safari.

@kode54
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kode54 commented Jan 6, 2016

Thanks for the spam, pal!

@Wowfunhappy
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I'm many years late, but I (finally) got the Mountain Lion QuickTime to work on Mavericks, so I can use Perian. https://github.com/Wowfunhappy/QuickTime-Fixer/releases

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