[FR] New Chopper Timing Preset Option For Noisy/Vibrating 0.9 Degree Steppers. #18542

Portzal · 2020-07-05T00:42:14Z

On the back of #18286 (comment)
would it be reasonable to include another Chopper timing Preset tuned towards noisy/vibrating 0.9 degree steppers?
Possible Name "CHOPPER_09STEP_24V" (3, -1, 5)
After a full day of testing different chopper timing combinations I have come up with the following numbers.
CHOPPER_TIMING { 3, -1, 5 }
These numbers give a good balance between StealthChop, above 110mm/s noise levels starring to increase and
SpreadCycle, above 120mm/s steppers start to calm down.

@h3po did some testing with 3 different settings and posted the following video, https://youtu.be/A7GWkTTyzW0

thisiskeithb · 2020-07-05T09:37:53Z

Which stepper manufacturer/model numbers has this been tested with? It may not be universal for all 0.9 degree steppers.

Portzal · 2020-07-06T00:07:27Z

@thisiskeithb My machine has E3D Steppers, I believe it has worked with some other brands as well. It’s not aimed at all 0.9 steppers, only as a option if you are experiencing excessive noise or vibration with 0.9 degree steppers. It would probably need the inclusion of short explanation for the use of this preset.

Portzal · 2020-07-07T00:50:44Z

@boelle @thisiskeithb I have made the changes in my firmware and it builds successfully.
could I please get some feedback as to whether I actually have it set up correctly.
I will then work on following the guides and learn how to do a Pull request.
tmc_util.h

#define CHOPPER_DEFAULT_12V  { 3, -1, 1 }
#define CHOPPER_DEFAULT_19V  { 4,  1, 1 }
#define CHOPPER_DEFAULT_24V  { 4,  2, 1 }
#define CHOPPER_DEFAULT_36V  { 5,  2, 4 }
#define CHOPPER_PRUSAMK3_24V { 3, -2, 6 }
#define CHOPPER_MARLIN_119   { 5,  2, 3 }
#define CHOPPER_09STEP_24V   { 3, -1, 5 }  // <-- new preset

configuration_adv.h

Optimize spreadCycle chopper parameters by using predefined parameter sets
- or with the help of an example included in the library.
- Provided parameter sets are
- CHOPPER_DEFAULT_12V
- CHOPPER_DEFAULT_19V
- CHOPPER_DEFAULT_24V
- CHOPPER_DEFAULT_36V
- CHOPPER_PRUSAMK3_24V // Imported parameters from the official Prusa firmware for MK3 (24V)
- CHOPPER_MARLIN_119 // Old defaults from Marlin v1.1.9
- CHOPPER_09STEP_24V //option for noisy or vibrating 0.9 degree steppers new preset
- Define you own with
- { <off_time[1..15]>, <hysteresis_end[-3..12]>, hysteresis_start[1..8] }
  */

thisiskeithb · 2020-07-07T01:13:53Z

I haven’t tuned chopper settings beyond the defaults, but I assume it’ll need to be adjusted for everyone’s specific drivers & motor characteristics.

@teemuatlut would likely know more.

Evg33 · 2020-07-08T19:13:16Z

Very cool !!!
Now there is no that nasty sound!
SKR1.4T + 2209 + 0.9/2A (StepperOnline 17HM19-2004S 0.9deg 2.0A 3.0mH)

00xED · 2020-07-09T08:14:17Z

Works nice. Tried it with SKR1.3 + TMC2208 + 0.9A (StepperOnline 17HM15-0904S 0.9deg 0.9A 12.0mH).

freighttt · 2020-07-09T15:47:21Z

To chime in, I have LDO 0.9’s but these values did improve things for me. I ended up adjusting mine further via the calculator but I do support adding the values posted. They definitely are a big improvement from stock.

…ers MarlinFirmware#18542

wolfgangmauer · 2020-07-27T00:04:30Z

Nice work, i have SKR 1.3/TMC2209 on 12V, hope this will work also with 12V ?!

looxonline · 2020-08-15T04:32:32Z

To chime in, I have LDO 0.9’s but these values did improve things for me. I ended up adjusting mine further via the calculator but I do support adding the values posted. They definitely are a big improvement from stock.

I'm about to install some LDOs. Any chance of explaining what further adjustments you did?

freighttt · 2020-08-27T02:12:41Z

To chime in, I have LDO 0.9’s but these values did improve things for me. I ended up adjusting mine further via the calculator but I do support adding the values posted. They definitely are a big improvement from stock.

I'm about to install some LDOs. Any chance of explaining what further adjustments you did?

i plugged the specs into the tmc2209 calculator. the chopper settings ended up being 3, -1, 1

teemuatlut · 2020-08-27T05:00:41Z

3, -1, 1 would be the same as CHOPPER_DEFAULT_12V.

SFRSKZ · 2020-09-04T16:59:21Z

To chime in, I have LDO 0.9’s but these values did improve things for me. I ended up adjusting mine further via the calculator but I do support adding the values posted. They definitely are a big improvement from stock.

I'm about to install some LDOs. Any chance of explaining what further adjustments you did?

i plugged the specs into the tmc2209 calculator. the chopper settings ended up being 3, -1, 1

i searched that calculator but couldnt find. 3,-1, 5 was good for LDO 0.9 but my new Moons 2a 0.9s didnt like it. now motors sound like driven by a4988

Hyrules · 2020-09-21T15:24:23Z

It would be nice if someone could post the link to the calculator. I also have 0.9 moon's stepper motor on 2209 and skr1.4 and they are noisy and vibrating as well. I'm about to try the new preset to see if this fixes it or would like to try to fix it with the calculator if this does not do it.

looxonline · 2020-09-21T17:17:18Z

It would be nice if someone could post the link to the calculator. I also have 0.9 moon's stepper motor on 2209 and skr1.4 and they are noisy and vibrating as well. I'm about to try the new preset to see if this fixes it or would like to try to fix it with the calculator if this does not do it.

Just because you asked so nicely :)
TMC2209_Calculations-1.xlsx

Hyrules · 2020-09-21T17:23:53Z

Thanks alot !

ShohninDmitriy · 2020-09-21T18:17:42Z

TMC2209_Calculations-1.xlsx

You have an error in the TMC Configurator the driver can't work at 168 MHz it works at 12 MHz

Hyrules · 2020-09-21T18:52:09Z

To chime in, I have LDO 0.9’s but these values did improve things for me. I ended up adjusting mine further via the calculator but I do support adding the values posted. They definitely are a big improvement from stock.

I'm about to install some LDOs. Any chance of explaining what further adjustments you did?

i plugged the specs into the tmc2209 calculator. the chopper settings ended up being 3, -1, 1

I also get this value when I enter my details in the calculator for my moon's MS17HA2P4150 motors.

ShohninDmitriy · 2020-09-21T23:47:33Z

[>] I also get this value when I enter my details in the calculator for my moon's MS17HA2P4150 motors.

3, - 3, 1
TMC2209_Calculations.xlsx

Hyrules · 2020-09-22T11:12:29Z

Well this makes less noises indeed but i'm still having some acceleration vibrations.

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