Extend "Blasto" by the language Latin

[bi3mw]

Can you extend your program "Blasto" by the language Latin ? The program would be very useful for deciphering old manuscripts then.

[Merricx]

I can if I have the data of Latin quadgram dataset, but unfortunately I don't have it.
If you have, maybe you can send the quadgram data here and I will add it to language support.

[bi3mw]

Unfortunately, I also do not have a corresponding dataset and do not know how one could create this from a Latin corpus. I have made a request in a forum if someone knows a source and I will get back to you if there is any feedback.

[marcoponzi]

I put this together from a ~2.5M words corpus. Can it be useful?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZX0Fu3rWREViVayVat_1myvSJq8lk2u-/view

[Merricx]

Nice one, let me check that if it can be implemented

[marcoponzi]

Something that occurred to me after I created that file: medieval Latin typically represented 'u' and 'v' with the same character. Should this be 'simulated' in the quadgrams by replacing u with v or vice-versa in at least part of the corpus? Maybe duplicating those lines so that they appear both with distinct u/v and a single character?
Similarly, in medieval Latin, combinations like 'ae' and 'oe' were often written as they are pronounced: just 'e'. Would it be useful to also manage this in the same way as proposed for u/v?

[Merricx]

I think duplicating those characters as different line is the easiest way, although the quadgram size will be bigger.
If we replace 'u' with 'v' or vice versa, we should replace the "possible" plaintext from the ciphertext that we are trying to crack with the corresponding character and it can cause some miss accuracy to the correct plaintext.

[marcoponzi]

An updated version of the file, where I added the replacement of AE/OE with E and of V with U. This of course results in additional quadgrams (about 1% more lines).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F3R1byY_63bS4H6TLssn3PieUthCNxwc/view?usp=sharing

[zbelanger]

I am also interested in the implementation of Latin in Blasto. Does it look like this can happen?

[bi3mw]

Is there any progress yet in the implementation of Latin ?

[bi3mw]

I am also interested in the implementation of Latin in Blasto. Does it look like this can happen?

If you are still interested, here is the mini version with Latin support:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/y066ahjjsccnpc8z9knpu/subst_solver_latin.zip?rlkey=l5en2nl8lps3rgv1rjiv6ln84&dl=1

[zbelanger]

Hi. Thank you, this is great!

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