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Twisted Metal Head-on [Extra Twisted Edition] : broken fire effect + incorrect resolution rendering #2226

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ghost opened this issue Dec 20, 2017 · 17 comments

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@ghost
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ghost commented Dec 20, 2017

PCSX2 version:
Last 1.5dev

PCSX2 options:
All default, speedhacks disabled. Core hacks and Clamp/round mode don't help here.

Plugins used:
GSDX software and Hardware OpenGL

Description of the issue:
The game Twisted Metal Head-on [Extra Twisted Edition] have some issue in PCSX2:

-Broken fire effect (GSDX Software/Hardware and ZZogl show the same issue (core issue?))

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Incorrect FMV rendering: #961

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How to reproduce the issue:
Load PCSX2 with Twisted Metal Head-on [Extra Twisted Edition]

Not a regression

PC specifications:
AMD fx8350 GTX 780Ti Windows 10 64 Bit

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YdhUuh6iLExrV8ePawTN_E60njJWCTKF/view?usp=sharing

@MrCK1
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MrCK1 commented Dec 20, 2017

The fire looks fine to me? Did you try Full blending accuracy, I don't see the issue.

As for the rendering resolution, 720x480 is Progressive Scan aka 480P. I would only be concerned If the game doesn't support it, or if there were rendering glitches as a result.

@ghost
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ghost commented Dec 20, 2017

Not all fire effect are broken, some are fine, some other are completely broken as you can see (I allways use full blending):
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And for the resolution issue I was talking about the right of the screen wich is black in FMV's even in software mode.

Note: This YouTube video show the difference between the ps3 60gb and the 80gb and in this video you can see the same broken fire effect in twisted metal Under emulation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tKnI9YYrzs&list=LLoFGjoIi5kRwFpysJLgRvIw&index=9
Go to 12:55 and 13:36.

@Ghaleon777
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Nobody seems to completely fix this awesome game, it also as got some weird black glitches (textures) on most cars when battling. For example look at this weird glitch..
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Can it be fixed please?

@MrCK1
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MrCK1 commented Feb 23, 2018

Alot of fixes are hard to find and take dedicated time to diagnose. I wouldn't expect a fix anytime soon.

I'm sure you can play it in the SW renderer without glitches, no? ;)

@Ghaleon777
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No bud, this problem persists all the time, in HW or SW renderer, it sucks because the game plays flawlessly... But those glitches (and the one of the fire also) are present in both modes...

Aced14 added a commit to Aced14/pcsx2 that referenced this issue Mar 7, 2020
This game's FMVs are meant to be letterboxed (640x368 with 40 pixel top/bottom bars). Without this patch, FMVs are rendered at 720x480 with bars on 3 sides (40 pixels at the top, 80 on the right, 72 at the bottom).

Related to PCSX2#961 and PCSX2#2226.
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This issue still persists... as you can see, it seems that these glitches around the cars are where the weapons appears when you select them.. when you actually select them, the black glitches dissapear, as you can see in this image.

The broken fire effect may or may not be related to this issue, it may be a separate glitch.

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ghost commented Aug 20, 2020

Sorry for little off topic. Black doors are sadly VU0 issue, and there is no way to fix it on pcsx2 properly without breaking other games (probably). You can grab this emu to play that game, but i can't guarantee it wouldn't brake other stuff ingame. This is hack that just can't be implemented to pcsx2 at all.

https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Fixing-unplayable-games?pid=612373#pid612373
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Fire effect still broken as it seems to be FPU issue.

@Minion77777
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Nice! Thanks a lot man! you are awesome...
I will try it now, sad that the flame effect is still broken, because i would use just a emu specially designed for this game alone (yes, that is how much i love this game lol). So maybe a FPU fix can be made to this special build in the future right? Its not a big deal if it cant be implemented to PCSX2 at all.. But since it cant be implemented its a really GOOD idea to have a special build for these particular games.
Cheers and thanks a lot man.

@refractionpcsx2
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refractionpcsx2 commented Oct 26, 2020

These issues are all resolved as of the latest master (with a patch for the fire as that's unfixable)

FMV issue will be handled in the meta FMV issue linked in the OP

@Ghaleon7771
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The black doors issue appeared again on lastest builds, the fire however works perfectly.
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Tried software, opengl, vulkan, etc. Also activated gamefixes.. i tried everything.

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Mrlinkwii commented Oct 24, 2022

@Ghaleon777 can you make a picture from master ( win7 isnt supported anymore ) and can you try VU Sync gamefix to see if that fixes it

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@Ghaleon777 can you make a picture from master ( win7 isnt supported anymore ) and can you try VU Sync gamefix to see if that fixes it

Hey bro, im using Windows 10, i enabled the VU Sync gamefix and it fixed the black doors!
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Thanks a lot mate.

@refractionpcsx2
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We'll get that put in the gamedb so it's automatic :) Thanks!

@Ghaleon7771
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We'll get that put in the gamedb so it's automatic :) Thanks!

Awesome, by the way, awesome progress on this emulator, it runs much better than before.

All the best!

@TJGSASQUATCH
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The black doors issue appeared again on lastest builds, the fire however works perfectly. 36578418-dfcab2ba-183b-11e8-9ff5-e758aa37de74 Tried software, opengl, vulkan, etc. Also activated gamefixes.. i tried everything.

what settings are you using to get the fire working properly, seems with the current builds it still has this issue for me

@refractionpcsx2
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if it's problematic for you, then you've disabled game fixes, which you should not do.

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funnily enough i tried out one of the nightly builds for the hell of it and that one fixed the issue

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