Beach remap alternative #15437
Beach remap alternative #15437
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note to self, test all of these.
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Have an idea for this one, potentially...
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in this case, we really do have to use src, as gross as that is---and since this is all built in BYOND stuff, we can't really do the whole icon = _icon thing either).
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What is the point of cutting what away missions have to offer if the only people that are affected by it are explorers and clueless assistants, and explorers are already leaving the station and for another adventure. I would love to see beach gateway changed because currently its very dull, but making it absolutely adventureless may make explorers feel like they wasted a round. If anything should be done about adventures that attract people away from station, i would rather like to see more restrictions on gateway itself (for example make it impossible to enter without access of an explorer (which also will help with vampires and changelings that abuse gateway helpless explorers) |
Because people should primarily be engaging with the station. See the issues that crop up with places like lavaland in terms of the enagement it creates with station crew vs non-station crew--some limited amount of this, especially if tied with a job and it reinforces that job, is ok, but having it everywhere for the sake of itself, especially when it's easy to access as entering one door? Not great. These areas just turn into loot pinatas that powergamers invariably are attracted to---oh, it's beach? Time to get my energy sword! Stuff like that. Again, some form of this, if it's tied into rewarding a job to do what it needs to do, that ties into the station, is ok---but Away Missions don't do this--they're just pure loot for the sake of loot. They're an adventure the first 3 times you do them, then they're just a timegate for valuables. |
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I would rather see #13122 than this, as 13122 is far more popular. I'm not opposed to the idea of some away missions having a chillout area, but I think that away missions that are nothing more than a chillout area are effectively useless as they're just duplicating the already-existing on-station bar. And really, will often be inferior to the on-station bar, as the on-station bar will have more people. Like it or not there are a bunch of players/crew who end up bored, especially if they get stuck as assistant, and offstation exploration areas are popular for a reason. I don't think it takes anything away from the station to have them. Its also a weird double-standard to try to force the gateway to be purely a chillout area with no combat or loot, when lavaland takes far more crew offstation than the gateway does, has far more fights, and far more loot, and all this is considered both fine and desirable. The same enjoyment that you get from being a miner, others get from the gateway. It seems a inconsistent to say lavaland is fine to be full of combat and loot, but gateway isn't, and has to be limited to being a reskinned inferior version of bar RP. Objection. |
I'd agree if we didn't hit 100 pop regularly. We need things outside the station like ghost roles to balance that out and avoid overcrowding. |
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This is a game that takes place in space. While there's certainly a major focus on the station (as there should be) space/ gateway exploration is a very, very fun and intriguing side activity. I see no reason to remove that aspect. Exploration also offers tons of opportunities for roleplay. Perhaps instead of static maps, we could have something akin to a mystery dungeon game with randomized dungeons. This would enable fresh exploration for all, and help curb people meta hunting specific items. |
sounds like an excellent opportunity to use the features presented in #15334 , but maybe with bigger generation options for whole rooms and essentially random dungeons? |
Fox-McCloud
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An alternative to: #13122
It's been a long sought goal of @Necaladun to cut down on what away missions have to offer---too much adventuring and loot off station is a bad thing---it's better to encourage players to stay on station for most of their adventuring. That said, getting rid of away missions, entirely, isn't really in the cards. Additionally, having a relaxing spot, to go, doesn't necessarily do any harm either, especially when it doesn't have much loot, at all.
This is the beach revamp from TG.
This scales back, dramatically, what the beach has in terms of adventuring, but it makes up for it in offering a larger entertainment area with a bit more to do, upgraded drink dispensers, some food, a bartender role, and radio coverage.
This away mission can be excellent bar to set for what away missions should be---relaxing areas that encourage roleplay with one another while not being a loot pinata or some grand design for running all over the place or ignoring your on-station duties; a thematic "bar" or chillout area, if you will.
Things from the original PR, however, I do think could be added, mostly the chairs, as they have a great aesthetic. I won't be adding those in this PR, and well, they should be added by the other author anyway, to his credit.
This also standardizes on using a single beach turf set---the entire game uses the same set of beach icons, but then the beach away mission uses a different one---this isn't great---better to standardize one one now, then, if we want to update the sprites, we can do that at a later point (the beach away mission sprites don't have great wave animations)
The overlay for being under water won't be used, at least, temporarily---it has issues with the sprite standardization, and doesn't even work with the regular beach away mission if you use complex angles---it's kinda badly hard coded to be only facing south, and that's it.
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other things this PR does:
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add: Adds tiki mask--craft one out of wood
add: Adds letterman style jackets--find them in the clothes mate.
add: Adds dollar bling to the clothes mate
tweak: Updates bed sheet sprites
tweak; Updates rock structure sprites (the kind that are added for decoration)
add: Majorly overhauls the beach away mission
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