create GSOC 2017 Ideas List #2607

mfc · Jan 28, 2017

To participate in the Google Summer of Code we need to create an Ideas List of potential projects for students. Below are some example of these webpages:

I have already created an application and am filling out:

Organization Application
Organizational Profile (idea list is part of this)

Would anyone else like to be "Organization Administrators" of our submission? Marek? Andrew? We need at least two, and I can be one.

Deadline is February 9 12:00 EST.

I'd be happy to!

andrewdavidwong · Jan 28, 2017

I'd be happy to!

I have participated in GSoC in the past as a student and it was a very positive experience.

If you would like help putting together the typical list of project ideas I would be happy to contribute some from my own personal qubes to-do list, and (if you feel it is appropriate) would also be more than happy to mentor a student under the project as well!

jpouellet · Jan 30, 2017

I have participated in GSoC in the past as a student and it was a very positive experience.

If you would like help putting together the typical list of project ideas I would be happy to contribute some from my own personal qubes to-do list, and (if you feel it is appropriate) would also be more than happy to mentor a student under the project as well!

@jpouellet yes all help appreciated, especially in drafting the write structure & intro for them (we'll want a dedicated page on the Qubes website about this probably?).

from the qubes-project mailing list discussion:

Btrfs support for Qubes 4.0:
#2340
Research running Android in Qubes VM (probably HVM) and connecting it to
Android Studio:
#2233
GNOME support in dom0:
#1806
Qubes MIME handlers (including remembering decision whether some file
should be opened in DispVM or locally):
#441
Template manager, new template distribution mechanism:
#2064
#2534
Revive Qubes Live USB, integrate it with installer:
#1552
#1965
Unikernel based firewallvm with Qubes firewall settings support:
(can't find a ticket for it)
IPv6 support (not sure if big enough):
#718
(there is PoC already, but far from complete)
More extensions to Thunderbird:
#845

could be grouped with FF and Chrome/Chromium extensions?
would include:

open link in vm
open link in dispvm
save destination to vm

LogVM(s):
#830
Opening multiple files in the same DispVM:
#814
GUI!!!

GUI for enabling USB keyboard
#2329
GUI for enabling USB passthrough
#2328
GUI interface for /etc/qubes/guid.conf
#2304
Improving inter-VM file copy / move UX master ticket
#1839

And comprehensive list of GUI issues:
#1117

get GPU passthrough working under Xen for Intel integrated GPUs
#833 (other related tickets?)

mfc · Jan 31, 2017

@jpouellet yes all help appreciated, especially in drafting the write structure & intro for them (we'll want a dedicated page on the Qubes website about this probably?).

from the qubes-project mailing list discussion:

Btrfs support for Qubes 4.0:
#2340
Research running Android in Qubes VM (probably HVM) and connecting it to
Android Studio:
#2233
GNOME support in dom0:
#1806
Qubes MIME handlers (including remembering decision whether some file
should be opened in DispVM or locally):
#441
Template manager, new template distribution mechanism:
#2064
#2534
Revive Qubes Live USB, integrate it with installer:
#1552
#1965
Unikernel based firewallvm with Qubes firewall settings support:
(can't find a ticket for it)
IPv6 support (not sure if big enough):
#718
(there is PoC already, but far from complete)
More extensions to Thunderbird:
#845

could be grouped with FF and Chrome/Chromium extensions?
would include:

open link in vm
open link in dispvm
save destination to vm

LogVM(s):
#830
Opening multiple files in the same DispVM:
#814
GUI!!!

GUI for enabling USB keyboard
#2329
GUI for enabling USB passthrough
#2328
GUI interface for /etc/qubes/guid.conf
#2304
Improving inter-VM file copy / move UX master ticket
#1839

And comprehensive list of GUI issues:
#1117

get GPU passthrough working under Xen for Intel integrated GPUs
#833 (other related tickets?)

I've updated #833 and explained that (most likely) we would be able to get GuiDomain without GPU passthrough first. We might create another ticket now to track the actual GPU passthrough, which should be largely independent on Qubes-specific things, only Xen-related. I will do later.

rootkovska · Feb 2, 2017

I've updated #833 and explained that (most likely) we would be able to get GuiDomain without GPU passthrough first. We might create another ticket now to track the actual GPU passthrough, which should be largely independent on Qubes-specific things, only Xen-related. I will do later.

See #2618 for tracking of Xen GPU pass-through (largely independent of Qubes), and #2619 for tracking of additional Qubes GUI daemon modifications needed for true GuiDom (but not needed for the "soft" GuiDom as tracked by #833).

rootkovska · Feb 2, 2017

See #2618 for tracking of Xen GPU pass-through (largely independent of Qubes), and #2619 for tracking of additional Qubes GUI daemon modifications needed for true GuiDom (but not needed for the "soft" GuiDom as tracked by #833).

~~shall we put the GSOC ideas on the Join page or create a separate page?~~ drafting separate page

I'll start drafting it in the proper template format and invite you all to fill it in more.

mfc · Feb 4, 2017

~~shall we put the GSOC ideas on the Join page or create a separate page?~~ drafting separate page

I'll start drafting it in the proper template format and invite you all to fill it in more.

I'm not seeing anything related to Qubes Windows Tools (@omeg) or to Whonix/privacy (@adrelanos), which I think would definitely appreciate some additional capacity.

You can draft here until the GSoC page is on the website:
QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#70

mfc · Feb 4, 2017

I'm not seeing anything related to Qubes Windows Tools (@omeg) or to Whonix/privacy (@adrelanos), which I think would definitely appreciate some additional capacity.

You can draft here until the GSoC page is on the website:
QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#70

QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#70 has been merged, and the GSoC page is now live:

https://www.qubes-os.org/GSoC/

Thanks, @mfc!

Note: The page is not linked from anywhere right now.

andrewdavidwong · Feb 5, 2017

QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#70 has been merged, and the GSoC page is now live:

https://www.qubes-os.org/GSoC/

Thanks, @mfc!

Note: The page is not linked from anywhere right now.

## Whonix IPv6 and nftables support
**Project**: Whonix IPv6 and nftables support

**Brief explanation**: [T509](https://phabricator.whonix.org/T509)

**Expected results**:

**Knowledge prerequisite**:

**Mentor**: Patrick Schleizer

If that was too little, I could certainly keep a student busy with related tasks.

submitting patches to upstream corridor - add IPv6 support / port to nftables - rustybird/corridor#39 (so we can keep using corridor to audit Whonix for leaks)
submitting patches to upstream Debian to fix some issues in netfilter-persistent - https://phabricator.whonix.org/T487#9444
port to netfilter-persistent - https://phabricator.whonix.org/T487

adrelanos · Feb 5, 2017

## Whonix IPv6 and nftables support
**Project**: Whonix IPv6 and nftables support

**Brief explanation**: [T509](https://phabricator.whonix.org/T509)

**Expected results**:

**Knowledge prerequisite**:

**Mentor**: Patrick Schleizer

If that was too little, I could certainly keep a student busy with related tasks.

submitting patches to upstream corridor - add IPv6 support / port to nftables - rustybird/corridor#39 (so we can keep using corridor to audit Whonix for leaks)
submitting patches to upstream Debian to fix some issues in netfilter-persistent - https://phabricator.whonix.org/T487#9444
port to netfilter-persistent - https://phabricator.whonix.org/T487

great i've added it to the page, also added the standalone tor connection wizard (#1938).

mfc · Feb 5, 2017

great i've added it to the page, also added the standalone tor connection wizard (#1938).

I'm trying to fill some information, and I'd remove some ideas from the list, as too small for GSoC:

btrfs - it's like 2 weeks full time work (because some parts are already there)
logvm - 2-3 weeks
GUI daemon changes for GUI domain - 2-3 weeks, but it depends on either #2618 or #833 - I think it should be either merged to one of them, or dropped (I've done the later)
Opening multiple files in the same DispVM - I'd merge this into GUI improvements

I need some help with description of "Android development in Qubes" - what is really required to do that (besides running Android in some VM)? Some communication with Android Studio (is it how it's called?) probably - what does it really mean? I hope Android do work without GPU access (so, software rendering), otherwise we may have a problem here...

marmarek · Feb 6, 2017

I'm trying to fill some information, and I'd remove some ideas from the list, as too small for GSoC:

btrfs - it's like 2 weeks full time work (because some parts are already there)
logvm - 2-3 weeks
GUI daemon changes for GUI domain - 2-3 weeks, but it depends on either #2618 or #833 - I think it should be either merged to one of them, or dropped (I've done the later)
Opening multiple files in the same DispVM - I'd merge this into GUI improvements

I need some help with description of "Android development in Qubes" - what is really required to do that (besides running Android in some VM)? Some communication with Android Studio (is it how it's called?) probably - what does it really mean? I hope Android do work without GPU access (so, software rendering), otherwise we may have a problem here...

@jpouellet would you like to be a mentor for: GNOME support, LogVMs, GUI improvements and maybe TB/FF/Chrome extensions?

marmarek · Feb 6, 2017

@jpouellet would you like to be a mentor for: GNOME support, LogVMs, GUI improvements and maybe TB/FF/Chrome extensions?

I could do LogVMs, GUI improvements, and Browser extensions, but do not feel qualified to be the Gnome guy.

I've proposed some more changes here:

QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#73 (grammar nit)
QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#74 (adding details)
QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#75 (more project ideas)

jpouellet · Feb 6, 2017

I could do LogVMs, GUI improvements, and Browser extensions, but do not feel qualified to be the Gnome guy.

I've proposed some more changes here:

QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#73 (grammar nit)
QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#74 (adding details)
QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#75 (more project ideas)

Also, is "Opening multiple files in the same DispVM" actually a sufficient amount of work for a GSoC project?

That sounds more like a weekend of work rather than 3 months, although I have not investigated it to be sure. Seems to me like just packing more stuff into qfilecopy and iterating xdg-open on the other side... Even with validation of files passed back, it seems not that big a task to me.

jpouellet · Feb 6, 2017

Also, is "Opening multiple files in the same DispVM" actually a sufficient amount of work for a GSoC project?

That sounds more like a weekend of work rather than 3 months, although I have not investigated it to be sure. Seems to me like just packing more stuff into qfilecopy and iterating xdg-open on the other side... Even with validation of files passed back, it seems not that big a task to me.

I filled details for most of the projects. TODOs:

PRs from @jpouellet
Android development description + mentor
GNOME in dom0 mentor (if no better candidate, I can do that, but I'm far from GNOME expert...)
Unikernel firewallvm mentor
details for Whonix-related projects

marmarek · Feb 7, 2017

I filled details for most of the projects. TODOs:

PRs from @jpouellet
Android development description + mentor
GNOME in dom0 mentor (if no better candidate, I can do that, but I'm far from GNOME expert...)
Unikernel firewallvm mentor
details for Whonix-related projects

FWIW, I'm not that much convinced we should be focusing on Gnome for Dom0, as this would mean more work for us to support both Xfce4 and Gnome. Especially in the context of the new Manager and GUI domain (which we might do w/o full GPU passthrough).

rootkovska · Feb 11, 2017

FWIW, I'm not that much convinced we should be focusing on Gnome for Dom0, as this would mean more work for us to support both Xfce4 and Gnome. Especially in the context of the new Manager and GUI domain (which we might do w/o full GPU passthrough).

QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#86

added some details for Whonix-related projects
moved project ideas without mentors to the bottom
added Marek as GNOME mentor for now

The idea is to replace XFCE with GNOME as the default desktop environment, so theoretically we would only be supporting GNOME, not both. If you think we should not try to move from XFCE to GNOME you can expand your argument on #1806.

mfc · Feb 15, 2017

QubesOS/qubesos.github.io#86

added some details for Whonix-related projects
moved project ideas without mentors to the bottom
added Marek as GNOME mentor for now

The idea is to replace XFCE with GNOME as the default desktop environment, so theoretically we would only be supporting GNOME, not both. If you think we should not try to move from XFCE to GNOME you can expand your argument on #1806.

edits for the GSOC page (and discussion around additions etc) can happen in PRs of the page or on the qubes-project mailing list thread, going to close this since we put up the GSOC page.

mfc · Feb 17, 2017

edits for the GSOC page (and discussion around additions etc) can happen in PRs of the page or on the qubes-project mailing list thread, going to close this since we put up the GSOC page.

A note from the GSoC mentor summit on evaluating proposals: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XQpwXqgp9ajMsYyzQChKUvWO-6ZG7AJfTCsjZ3Ki7WE/edit

Just dumping it here so it's not lost in email archives.

jpouellet · Oct 17, 2017

A note from the GSoC mentor summit on evaluating proposals: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XQpwXqgp9ajMsYyzQChKUvWO-6ZG7AJfTCsjZ3Ki7WE/edit

Just dumping it here so it's not lost in email archives.

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