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GLA Toxin General is very strong #806

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xezon opened this issue Aug 1, 2022 · 2 comments
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GLA Toxin General is very strong #806

xezon opened this issue Aug 1, 2022 · 2 comments
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xezon commented Aug 1, 2022

GLA Toxin General is very strong. There are 2 main reasons for this.

  1. Toxin RPG uses Stinger missiles that can track targets
  2. Toxin Gamma Upgrade grants hefty damage bonuses

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Gamma Upgrade Stats

Anthrax Gamma damage bonuses over respective Anthrax Beta damages.

Thing Original Gamma Bonus Patched Gamma Bonus
Toxin Terrorist -29% 0%
Toxin Rebel +25% +25%
Toxin RPG Trooper +30% +30%
Toxin Tunnel +25% +25%
Toxin Truck Nozzle (Scrap 1,2) +64% ,+63% ,+42% +50%, +50%, +50%
Toxin Truck Spray (Scrap 1,2) +00%, +33%, +28% +20%, +33%, +28%
Toxin SCUD Storm Primary +10% 0%
Toxin SCUD Storm Secondary +33% +33%
Toxin Stinger Site vs ground +100% +50%
Toxin Stinger Site vs air +66% +50%

RPG Trooper Stats

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Proposal 1

Remove RPG Trooper missile tracking. No other GLA Faction has it.

Proposal 2

Reduce RPG Trooper missile tracking range.

Proposal 3

Reduce Gamma Upgrade Toxin Stinger damage bonus. (Done)

@xezon xezon added Design Is a matter of game design Controversial Is controversial Major Severity: Minor < Major < Critical < Blocker labels Aug 1, 2022
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xezon commented Aug 1, 2022

Rage:

Gamma and this tracking ability is definitely what makes tox so strong lategame.

I think the tracking is mostly a problem for migs and helixes as toxin becomes so insanely hard to play against for china late game if the toxin general builds some nests / busses / puts some rgs in a building. And the ground army doesn't really stand a chance anyway except for perhaps the inferno spam (but 1 flanking buss and gg for that too)

Perhaps a slight tweak might already do a lot: make toxin RPG troopers with gamma deal slightly less damage to aircraft but keep the tracking ability and keep the same damage to ground units?

Rising:

I would remove it. Makes no sense to me for tox RPG’s to be better than other gla’s.

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xezon commented Aug 14, 2022

I reflected all current Gamma bonus changes in above table.

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