Does "use"/"using" always evoke a scene?

[nschneid]

Consider:

1. He broke the window with a hammer. – seems like "with a hammer" is a clear participant
2. He broke the window using a hammer.
3. He broke the window by using a hammer. – "by" presents the use of the hammer as a means
4. He used a hammer to break the window.
   [He_A used_P [a hammer]_A [(He)_A to break_P [the window]_A]_A – this analysis seems reasonable, but I could also see an argument that "used" is a secondary verb.

[omriabnd]

I would say the first 3 don't evoke a scene (instruments), while the last one has two Scenes with a purposive Linker. I agree "used' could be analyzed as a secondary verb, but my feeling is that this option will be less immediate for annotators.

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On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 5:58 AM Nathan Schneider ***@***.***> wrote: Consider: 1. He broke the window *with* a hammer. – seems like "with a hammer" is a clear participant 2. He broke the window *using* a hammer. 3. He broke the window *by using* a hammer. – "by" presents the use of the hammer as a means 4. He *used* a hammer to break the window. [He_A used_P [a hammer]_A [(He)_A to break_P [the window]_A]_A – this analysis seems reasonable, but I could also see an argument that "used" is a secondary verb. — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#36>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AIG86wZy2yC3lI_kXe5K8wIvG94z-v_nks5ugtZGgaJpZM4XDPY7> .

[nschneid]

Would you make "using" a relator in (2)? What about (3)?

[omriabnd]

Yes. Relator. I agree (3) is borderline between a Scene and not a Scene.

[nschneid]

So with the non-scene interpretation of (3), both "by" and "using" would be relators?

[omriabnd]

yes

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[omriabnd]

Dotan, could you add these as examples to the guidelines?

[dotdv]

Added these examples under "instruments" (do you agree with this title or have a better idea?) in "interesting examples".
Regarding example 3: I marked 'by' and 'using' separately as Rs. "he broke the window [by_R using_R a hammer]_A

[omriabnd]

Sounds good בתאריך יום ו׳, 12 באוק׳ 2018, 08:13 AM, מאת dotdv ‏<notifications@github.com

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: Added these examples under "instruments" (do you agree with this title or have a better idea?) in "interesting examples". Regarding example 3: I marked 'by' and 'using' separately as Rs. "he broke the window [by_R using_R a hammer]_A — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#36 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AIG86_--XsEkPJ-tBxArpChMZW-J1tI5ks5ukCT1gaJpZM4XDPY7> .